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Old 10-23-2002, 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by scmaxima2k
if ur gonna get a stang, at least get a cobra, or even a saleen or roush(the only stangs i would ever own), but in my opinion ,i hate fords... Id go with either an SS or WS6... But if u like the stangs, go for it
Blah! what's a Roush or Saleen? a Super Charged GT with better suspension... Roush, Stage1 a super charged v6 with better suspension and (some times a GT), Stage2 a GT with moded suspension, body kit, ground effects ect.., Stage3 a super charged GT with moded suspension, exhaust, body kit, seats, ect... Saleen is the same thing, they are ALL moded up GT's except for 03' Cobra, you know what your talking about
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Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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I have been toying with the idea of trading my Maxima in for an 03 Mach 1 or GT. I really like my Maxima, but want something RWD and modable. I have driven a 00 GT a couple years back and liked it, but not the insurance costs. What do you guys think I should do?

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I just wrecked my 94' gt Mustang and bought a 02' se Maxima. The cabin is less crowded (I have 2 teen-agers) and it is faster than my stock 94'. It is quieter and I can't wait to take a long trip in it. It is your choice but power-wise you will be ahead with the Maxima.
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Re: Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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I just wrecked my 94' gt Mustang and bought a 02' se Maxima. The cabin is less crowded (I have 2 teen-agers) and it is faster than my stock 94'. It is quieter and I can't wait to take a long trip in it. It is your choice but power-wise you will be ahead with the Maxima.
theres a BIG difference between a '94 Mustang and a '02/'03 Mustang GT! The '02/'03 Mustang is more powerful than the '02/'03 Maxima. It has a tremedous amount of torque, scary amounts. Sure, stock it has only 5 more hp..but power to weight ratio has to be better, also RWD! But you will never get the comfort of the Maxima in a Mustang. If you want speed, get a Mustang GT. If you want a little less speed/more comfort and features and don't care for the aftermarket parts, get a Maxima.
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Originally posted by jjames
Just torque? JUST torque? Dude, torque wins races. The Max is pretty much tapped (NA) at 255 hp. The GTs V8 ain't even close to being maxed out. Some headers, a cam, and a little more work, and you have a true performance car.

That said, I find it odd that someone is trying to make a decision between these cars? It's just a strange comparison. What I mean is, you don't go to a Pizzaria when you're hungry for steak. They both taste good, they're just way different and not comparable.
Hosepower is for racing, torque is for burnouts

You had some great points there. Ford and GM aren't going to put V8's on the road with too much power... we already have enough teenagers who can't control them as it is. So yeah, the V8 will have a lot more potential. I think it all comes down to what is more important. The low rumble of a V8 or being able to fit you and your friends/family in the car.

Has anyone mentioned getting a 300zx TT? That is a real sports car, beautiful interior, and of course there is huge potential there with mods. After intake, exhuast, and ECU you are pushing 400 HP
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Get the Mustang. That friend of mine w/the 2000 V6 5spd Mustang has the "sporty" package and even it has a nice interior. Of course every mustang will feel more plasticy then a Maxima, but it is styled very nice and has some nice touches and comfortable and attractive leather seats. It has a big enough back seat to fit two people. (not necissarily comfortably ) I also love the way the shifters are slanted.

I am on the verge of selling my Maxima for a 94-95 Cobra with the 5.0L V8. The interiors are very sweet, I suggest you take a look at the 94-95 Cobra's. You could find a MINT one w/low miles and still have like $7,500 to spare. The 5.0 engines are tried and true, cheap to fix and work on, and very modable. Very reliable as well.

There is just something about a Cobra that gets people's attention. It's not just another Mustang. The 96-98 4.6L Modular Cobra's aren't as torquey as the 5.0's down low, but have better mid-high end power. The '99 Cobra's as you probubly know where majorly overrated by Ford, but are still awesome and very modable.

I suggest you look into some Cobra's before you buy into a GT. GT's are a dime a dozen, but Cobra's are very rare and are big attention/respect getters. No matter how nice the GT is, it's still just another GT.

Good luck man.
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well spoken, and I agree with that.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
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I am on the verge of selling my Maxima for a 94-95 Cobra with the 5.0L V8. The interiors are very sweet, I suggest you take a look at the 94-95 Cobra's. You could find a MINT one w/low miles and still have like $7,500 to spare. The 5.0 engines are tried and true, cheap to fix and work on, and very modable. Very reliable as well.

There is just something about a Cobra that gets people's attention. It's not just another Mustang. The 96-98 4.6L Modular Cobra's aren't as torquey as the 5.0's down low, but have better mid-high end power. The '99 Cobra's as you probubly know where majorly overrated by Ford, but are still awesome and very modable.

I suggest you look into some Cobra's before you buy into a GT. GT's are a dime a dozen, but Cobra's are very rare and are big attention/respect getters. No matter how nice the GT is, it's still just another GT.

Good luck man.
Cobra's are nice, but if I wanted one I would go for the best....The 03'. Even a 99+ is better than the older cobras because of the IRS suspension. The reason I am really locked on the 03' GT is I can get one for a steal. Then in a few months I can start modding....doing stuff such as SFC's, 4.10 Gear, Steeda T/A and Tri-Ax, and Flowmasters.
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Old 10-23-2002, 08:55 PM
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It's all about what You want. If you are really liking the GT and can get it at a great price then go for it and don't look back. Just be sure to start modding that thing so you don't get picked on by any 4 door grocery getters
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Its going to have to be a highly modded grocery getter to keep up Stock for Stock the 2k2 6 speed and GT are a good match.
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Looks like he made his mind up even b4 he started the thread. Had we known that we would have been better off looking at other threads. Good luck with the Stanger. Again, as I stated last night, as a prior GT owner, YOU'LL BE SORRY, VERY SORRY. Happy modding, get some seat covers b4 you get that car, the leather will crack soon. Torquey engine, no refinement. Just like everything in life, it's all a matter of tradeoffs. Guess if I was young again, I'd probably be driving one too, no matter what.
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a modded 02 6 speed could pick on a stock 03 GT... you guys are waiting on your y pipes right?
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Originally posted by pezking4
a modded 02 6 speed could pick on a stock 03 GT... you guys are waiting on your y pipes right?
It would be a drivers race.....


I havent made up mind if I want to keep the Maxima or get a new car yet. I would like a 350z, but havent driven one. Next on my list a GT. The reason that the GT is appealing is the price and modabilty. I can get a GT using Ford's X plan AND get the current rebate thats out($1000).
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


It would be a drivers race.....

A driver's race indeed. Most of the guys with Mustangs that I know don't know how to launch all that torque
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well ... from a dead stop the GT has a MUCH better chance against a 2k2 6spd, from a roll, the GT will lose, and i dont think ANYONE would argue with that, stock vs stock. Trap speeds dont lie. 350Z traps like 102mph, that would beat a stock GT.
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Originally posted by SkylineGTR
well ... from a dead stop the GT has a MUCH better chance against a 2k2 6spd, from a roll, the GT will lose, and i dont think ANYONE would argue with that, stock vs stock. Trap speeds dont lie. 350Z traps like 102mph, that would beat a stock GT.
What about the fact that the GT has like 50 more lb/feet of torque than the Max? That doesn't help out from a roll?
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races from a roll, trap speed indicates the winner, not torque. GTPs has more than 50ftlbs more than a 5spd pre 2k2 maxima and from a roll the maxima can usually pull away, stock vs stock. S2000 has 150ftlbs less torque than a Mustang GT, but from a roll all my money is on the S2000. Again traps speeds tell what the car is truly capable of.
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Like I said before; horsepower wins a race, torque wins the burnout contest.
Looking at the trap speed is the best way to tell how the cars will compare from a roll. The Maxima being front wheel drive makes it difficult to be the best from a dead stop
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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Go with the Mach 1 or even better... a 03 Cobra
If he can afford Cobra he definitely can afford the G35. If you got the $ buy the 03 Cobra. Damn those things are fast 390hp supercharged, but the price is up there
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Actually A much better choice...

Would be to get a 95 M3 and throw a turbo charger on it.....

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Re: Actually A much better choice...

Really? Not if you want any type of warranty.

Originally posted by ghostwhisper
Would be to get a 95 M3 and throw a turbo charger on it.....

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Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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I have been toying with the idea of trading my Maxima in for an 03 Mach 1 or GT. I really like my Maxima, but want something RWD and modable. I have driven a 00 GT a couple years back and liked it, but not the insurance costs. What do you guys think I should do?

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Fix Or Repair Daily, Found On Road Dead or backwards Driver Returns On Foot NISSAN 0 LIKE IT.
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Re: Re: Actually A much better choice...

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Really? Not if you want any type of warranty.

Actually, I think Dinan mods for the BMW are covered under warranty...dunno if they make a turbo though.
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Re: Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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my friend owns a 2002 mustang gt and it's fast and everything, but it makes a lot of noise. If you can bare that, go for it. Also, the cabin feels a lot different than a maxima. If you have a family, this car is not for you because there virtually is no back seat! If you want something RWD have you considered the Infiniti G35? It costs less than a Mach 1 but more than a Mustang GT. You also get comfort and reliability with it unlike FORD.
But if you like that muscle car sound/grunt, a mustang gt is for you. You will feel every part of the road though, but you get power..until 30,000 miles when the engine fails
My 14-year-old Mustang GT convertible has had way fewer problems than my "high quality, Japanese made" Maxima.
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Re: Re: Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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My 14-year-old Mustang GT convertible has had way fewer problems than my "high quality, Japanese made" Maxima.
Have you had that car for most of those 14 years? I think it's all about how well you maintain your car, besides the occasional lemon car.
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Re: Actually A much better choice...

Originally posted by ghostwhisper
Would be to get a 95 M3 and throw a turbo charger on it.....

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95 M3s are too old. The ones on the market are out of warranty and M3s are troublesome as they age. The turbo kit by AAW is 10k.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mustang GT or Maxima

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Have you had that car for most of those 14 years? I think it's all about how well you maintain your car, besides the occasional lemon car.
I do take good care of the GT but I also take care of the the Maxima. I really don't think my Maxima qualifies as an "occasional lemon car". The problems I have experienced are well documented on this forum... MANY Max's are having these problems. These include:

paint chips
3 Bose stereos
paint chips
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sunroof visor cracking
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did I say paint chips?
warped rotors
engine clatters on start up
I think I am forgetting one
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did I say paint chips?


I wasn't saying your max was a lemon. I had a Ford Escort that was though. But my first car was a 1982 F150 and I still see it on the streets running fine even after I sold it. There's no reason to think every single domestic is going to break down after a few years.
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A lot of people dont realize that Nissan Quality is below average. If you read the industry reports you will find Nissan at the bottom and Infinti near the top. Many domestic Brands were above Nissan. If I can find the article, I will give you more info.
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wow

wow, this thread has turned into nissan bashing and ford praising.



What were the chances of this?
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I wasn't saying your max was a lemon. I had a Ford Escort that was though. But my first car was a 1982 F150 and I still see it on the streets running fine even after I sold it. There's no reason to think every single domestic is going to break down after a few years.
Just to be fair... the absolute WORST car I have ever seen was one my parents had when I was a little kid... 1982 Ford Escort. There is not enough bandwidth here to list all the probs that car had. It eventually had to get a new engine under warranty. What made it bad was that it was my parents 1st new car. My Max is not that bad but it certainly ain't good (it is sure close to being a lemon in my opinion).
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Re: wow

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wow, this thread has turned into nissan bashing and ford praising.



What were the chances of this?
Oh I'll spend all day praising my Nissan, don't worry about that.

Over 160,000 miles and the engine is so strong. My uncles old 3rd gen was at 250,000 miles before he sold it. So Nissan does have some quality to their vehicles obviously.
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nissan maxima has one of the top reliability ratings out of all mid-size sedans. Ford taurus and impalas? near the bottom but Ford's paint job sure beats nissans. I have paint falling off hood like its melting in small areas and the nissan dealership rapes you where I live. My mom's windstar still has perfect paint and it has 160,000 miles on it and the ford service department is the nicest people ever.
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Originally posted by nycmax2002
nissan maxima has one of the top reliability ratings out of all mid-size sedans. Ford taurus and impalas? near the bottom but Ford's paint job sure beats nissans. I have paint falling off hood like its melting in small areas and the nissan dealership rapes you where I live. My mom's windstar still has perfect paint and it has 160,000 miles on it and the ford service department is the nicest people ever.
JMAXIMA and KingMax work in the Ford Service Dept. here in Raleigh, NC and they drive 4th gens
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Re: Re: wow

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Oh I'll spend all day praising my Nissan, don't worry about that.

Over 160,000 miles and the engine is so strong. My uncles old 3rd gen was at 250,000 miles before he sold it. So Nissan does have some quality to their vehicles obviously.
I love my Maxima, but people on this site dont realize the facts sometimes. Nissan's Quality is poor and isnt getting better.

Any well maintained modern engine will last long.
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I won't say a thing in regards to the typical Japanese made car VS the typical American made car. Just refer to any Consumer reports for automobile reliablity.

Originally posted by MAX2000JP


I love my Maxima, but people on this site dont realize the facts sometimes. Nissan's Quality is poor and isnt getting better.

Any well maintained modern engine will last long.
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I won't say a thing in regards to the typical Japanese made car VS the typical American made car. Just refer to any Consumer reports for automobile reliablity.

JD Power is the material to look at.
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JD powers is only customer satisfaction. Consumer reports is the car's reliability. There's a big difference. I was browsing GM's stats for the Camaro and Trans Am. Good lord, the whole damn page was full black dots. How can an automaker build crap that bad?

Originally posted by MAX2000JP


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JD powers is only customer satisfaction. Consumer reports is the car's reliability. There's a big difference. I was browsing GM's stats for the Camaro and Trans Am. Good lord, the whole damn page was full black dots. How can an automaker build crap that bad?

JD power also does Quality studies also....You have to read trade magazines to find them though.
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Well I don't know what you are getting at but the consumer reports on most of the big 3 automaker is shamefull. You really think the JD power's survey is any different. For example for the Camaro, what's the difference between abosolutely dismal and slightly less dismal? I really don't think even if JD liked the Camaro(and any other domestic), could even be up to sub ave with the Japanese cars.

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JD power also does Quality studies also....You have to read trade magazines to find them though.
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Well I don't know what you are getting at but the consumer reports on most of the big 3 automaker is shamefull. You really think the JD power's survey is any different. For example for the Camaro, what's the difference between abosolutely dismal and slightly less dismal? I really don't think even if JD liked the Camaro(and any other domestic), could even be up to sub ave with the Japanese cars.

The Camaro is no longer produced....I wonder why As a Company, Nissan is near the bottom in quality. It is no where near Honda or Toyota. And recently a few GM brands have surpassed Nissan in quality ratings, per JD power.
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