Excuuuussseeee Me, Mr Mustang!!!
11-16-2002, 12:50 PM
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As usual, the ignorance of this Org is endless. Not all 99+ GTs are 14.0@98+mph cars. PERIOD. The auto 99+ GT, while not near as bad as it use to be, is still ~.3-.4 seconds and a couple mph slower than a 5 speed. As in the case of this race, it was a 99+ convertible GT. There's NO mistaking the sound of the V8 vs that of the V6. Chances are this was an auto convertible (like most of them). Take into consideration that the convertible weighs ~175lbs more than the coupe plus teamed with the slower auto tranny and you're looking at a consistent 14.6-14.8@94mph Mustang on a decent track.
A lightweight 5 speed 2000 GXE with some mods (I assume) pulls slightly on a heavy 99+ Mustang GT? What's so hard to understand, fellas? The GXE's power to weight ratio and gearing is better the heavy auto GT therefore when the GXE stretches it's legs, it will walk the GT.
I've been to the track more times than I count now since the introduction of the 99+ GT. At my track, with the typical bolt-ons, the 99+ GTs are lucky to get 13s unless they are running drag tires. When I ran my best of a 14.68@97.79mph with a 2.3 60', I was running against a 00 GT 5 speed with a CAI, X-pipe, and drag radials. He ran a 14.3@98.2mph with a 2.1 60'. Only in the 60' did he pull me, after I paced him the whole way. Last weekend at the track, I ran a pathetic 14.80@96.7mph with a 2.30 60' and a 02 GT 5 speed with pullies, CAI, X-pipe, and street tires pulled a best of 14.4@97.2mph with a 2.2 60'.
More often than not, I'm neck and neck with the 99+ GTs at my track. Only in the first 60' is where they have the advantage.
Dave
A lightweight 5 speed 2000 GXE with some mods (I assume) pulls slightly on a heavy 99+ Mustang GT? What's so hard to understand, fellas? The GXE's power to weight ratio and gearing is better the heavy auto GT therefore when the GXE stretches it's legs, it will walk the GT.
I've been to the track more times than I count now since the introduction of the 99+ GT. At my track, with the typical bolt-ons, the 99+ GTs are lucky to get 13s unless they are running drag tires. When I ran my best of a 14.68@97.79mph with a 2.3 60', I was running against a 00 GT 5 speed with a CAI, X-pipe, and drag radials. He ran a 14.3@98.2mph with a 2.1 60'. Only in the 60' did he pull me, after I paced him the whole way. Last weekend at the track, I ran a pathetic 14.80@96.7mph with a 2.30 60' and a 02 GT 5 speed with pullies, CAI, X-pipe, and street tires pulled a best of 14.4@97.2mph with a 2.2 60'.
More often than not, I'm neck and neck with the 99+ GTs at my track. Only in the first 60' is where they have the advantage.
Dave
11-17-2002, 05:58 AM
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As usual, the ignorance of this Org is endless
To validate this damn subject, my father/mother have a 00' GT Automatic and with both of them in the car and only me in mine, my father walks on me. Now on the hwy at about 80mph then its a different story, because I stay with him.
THIS IS NOT A MUSTANG FORUM, GO THERE IF YOU WORSHIP THEM
11-17-2002, 06:05 AM
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I've been to the track more times than I count now since the introduction of the 99+ GT. At my track, with the typical bolt-ons, the 99+ GTs are lucky to get 13s unless they are running drag tires. When I ran my best of a 14.68@97.79mph with a 2.3 60', I was running against a 00 GT 5 speed with a CAI, X-pipe, and drag radials. He ran a 14.3@98.2mph with a 2.1 60'. Only in the 60' did he pull me, after I paced him the whole way. Last weekend at the track, I ran a pathetic 14.80@96.7mph with a 2.30 60' and a 02 GT 5 speed with pullies, CAI, X-pipe, and street tires pulled a best of 14.4@97.2mph with a 2.2 60'.
11-17-2002, 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
I hope that was not directed towards me?? The reason I am having a hard time with this is that he stated they turned the corner at about 30mph and it was a race. Well if that was the case, the Automatic is going to downshift into first and therefor the stang is going to have 300lbs of torque and 260hp hitting the pavement.
I hope that was not directed towards me?? The reason I am having a hard time with this is that he stated they turned the corner at about 30mph and it was a race. Well if that was the case, the Automatic is going to downshift into first and therefor the stang is going to have 300lbs of torque and 260hp hitting the pavement.
11-17-2002, 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by 00gxe5sp
HHMMM...THIS IS WHY I DON'T POST MUCH ON HERE....LOL...
IT WAS A V8...
IF THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GOVENOR ON MY CAR IT DOES NOT WORK...I HAVE HAD IT UP TO 125...I WILL TAKE A PICTURE NEXT TIME B/C I WOULD POST THAT...AND THEN EVERYONE WILL SAY IT'S NOT TRUE....
IF THERE IS ANYONE ON HERE THAT LIVES RELATIVELY CLOSE TO N. ATLANTA AND HAS A STOCK V8 AUTOMATIC MUSTANG....I HEREBY DECLARE A CHALLENGE...LOL....
OH YEAH...SORRY BOUT THE CAPS LOCK THING...I LEAVE IT ON FOR MY WORK...
RY
HHMMM...THIS IS WHY I DON'T POST MUCH ON HERE....LOL...
IT WAS A V8...
IF THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GOVENOR ON MY CAR IT DOES NOT WORK...I HAVE HAD IT UP TO 125...I WILL TAKE A PICTURE NEXT TIME B/C I WOULD POST THAT...AND THEN EVERYONE WILL SAY IT'S NOT TRUE....
IF THERE IS ANYONE ON HERE THAT LIVES RELATIVELY CLOSE TO N. ATLANTA AND HAS A STOCK V8 AUTOMATIC MUSTANG....I HEREBY DECLARE A CHALLENGE...LOL....
OH YEAH...SORRY BOUT THE CAPS LOCK THING...I LEAVE IT ON FOR MY WORK...
RY
11-17-2002, 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Max can beat anything.
Max can beat anything.
Originally posted by TimW
except for anything Acura
except for anything Acura
I read somewhere on the CL forums that they can take out the mustang gt, if they can, how come we can't? Since the CL-S and the 2k2+ Maximas are even in performance?
11-17-2002, 11:16 AM
#49
Originally posted by GLE02NJ
I read somewhere on the CL forums that they can take out the mustang gt, if they can, how come we can't? Since the CL-S and the 2k2+ Maximas are even in performance?
I read somewhere on the CL forums that they can take out the mustang gt, if they can, how come we can't? Since the CL-S and the 2k2+ Maximas are even in performance?
Bottomline, with even drivers, Stangs are faster than Max and CL-S
11-17-2002, 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by GLE02NJ
I read somewhere on the CL forums that they can take out the mustang gt, if they can, how come we can't? Since the CL-S and the 2k2+ Maximas are even in performance?
I read somewhere on the CL forums that they can take out the mustang gt, if they can, how come we can't? Since the CL-S and the 2k2+ Maximas are even in performance?
A guy just ran another auto CL-S and got 14.2 at 98 mph. And another 2 weeks ago with only headers 14.2 at 99 mph...
11-17-2002, 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Burton069
Had a debate with some drunk moron yesterday.. the reason is that they think GTs are high 15 second cars. (When they are in fact LOW 14 sec cars, come even high 13s) I was trying to explain how much extra torque the Stang had, and he said something about how torque only helps you on certain types of pavement
Bottomline, with even drivers, Stangs are faster than Max and CL-S
Had a debate with some drunk moron yesterday.. the reason is that they think GTs are high 15 second cars. (When they are in fact LOW 14 sec cars, come even high 13s) I was trying to explain how much extra torque the Stang had, and he said something about how torque only helps you on certain types of pavement
Bottomline, with even drivers, Stangs are faster than Max and CL-S
If the stangs are so much faster, then why are autos running high 14s, and 5spds run low 14s stock MOST. Same goes for the CL-S AND Maxima.
11-17-2002, 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Neither of us can take a Stang GT from a stop. But on a roll the CL-S/TL-S has a much greater chance due to our better trap speed.
A guy just ran another auto CL-S and got 14.2 at 98 mph. And another 2 weeks ago with only headers 14.2 at 99 mph...
Neither of us can take a Stang GT from a stop. But on a roll the CL-S/TL-S has a much greater chance due to our better trap speed.
A guy just ran another auto CL-S and got 14.2 at 98 mph. And another 2 weeks ago with only headers 14.2 at 99 mph...
It feels good to have a guy running 13s though
11-17-2002, 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by GLE02NJ
I am sure you have read about this
It feels good to have a guy running 13s though
I am sure you have read about this
It feels good to have a guy running 13s though
11-17-2002, 02:48 PM
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Re: Excuuuussseeee Me, Mr Mustang!!!
Originally posted by 00gxe5sp
I AM NOW OFFICALLY OBSESSED WITH THIS CAR....LOL...
I AM NOW OFFICALLY OBSESSED WITH THIS CAR....LOL...
I firmly believe Ford has hired an army of internet users to search for and reply to anything that might make the company look bad. Maybe they should focus alittle more on their QC.
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11-17-2002, 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
I hope that was not directed towards me?? The reason I am having a hard time with this is that he stated they turned the corner at about 30mph and it was a race. Well if that was the case, the Automatic is going to downshift into first and therefor the stang is going to have 300lbs of torque and 260hp hitting the pavement. The other problem is that he said he was at 2nd @ 3k rpm. Mustang in 1st vs. max in 2nd = no way he could have won! I have a 00' Se and at 3k rpm it is all but impressive!!
I hope that was not directed towards me?? The reason I am having a hard time with this is that he stated they turned the corner at about 30mph and it was a race. Well if that was the case, the Automatic is going to downshift into first and therefor the stang is going to have 300lbs of torque and 260hp hitting the pavement. The other problem is that he said he was at 2nd @ 3k rpm. Mustang in 1st vs. max in 2nd = no way he could have won! I have a 00' Se and at 3k rpm it is all but impressive!!
The truth is not ALL 99+ GTs are running low 14s stock. Every track is different. Example, today at the track three 99+ GTs (all 5 speeds) showed up with some minor mods (the 2k2 GT was stock). Between five runs, I was getting 14.70-14.82@96mph with 2.2-2.4 60 foots and they were running 14.6-14.9@96mph with 2.2 60 foots. Why do I know all this? Because they came over and talked to me and couldn't figure out how my family sedan was just as quick as their V8 coupes. Is my track slow? Most likely, yes. I have seen 99+ GTs break into the 13s, but those guys are running drag tires and fairly extensive mods, some are even running nitrous. For the most part I'm either neck and neck or .2-.3 seconds slower and my traps are right in line with theirs.
Dave
11-17-2002, 03:53 PM
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Re: Re: Excuuuussseeee Me, Mr Mustang!!!
Originally posted by 02MaximizedVQ
I firmly believe Ford has hired an army of internet users to search for and reply to anything that might make the company look bad. Maybe they should focus alittle more on their QC.
Jesse
I firmly believe Ford has hired an army of internet users to search for and reply to anything that might make the company look bad. Maybe they should focus alittle more on their QC.
Jesse
) thing a little. It seems to have slipped from Job No. 1 to about, oh, 753 or so.
11-17-2002, 05:53 PM
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As 2K26spd and myslef can tell you, having owned 12 sec Stangs.... Stangs dont drive around trying to gobble up Maximas or Acuras... You cruise around looking to prey on GM's.... and the ocassional ricer you need to smoke in 2 nd gear. As slow as some V8 gt's might be, there is no way on this earth you are going to smoke one in a non 2K2 auto with out some serious mods... I have raced my friends 2K1 Gt auto, and he has always burned me by at least 2 cars. Low 14's are common on any GT.
I call :
I dont think your purposely lying, you just confused the Stang with a V6, that might even of had fake badges. They also sell a dual exhaust set up for the V6 that makes it look like a GT...
I call :
I dont think your purposely lying, you just confused the Stang with a V6, that might even of had fake badges. They also sell a dual exhaust set up for the V6 that makes it look like a GT...
11-17-2002, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
So you beat a GT from 30 to 120?
Actually you came from behind, passed, and put a car on a GT from 30 to 120??? Come on dude, I have a 2000 5spd and we trap on a good day 94mph, and gt's have way more tq and hp and trap in the 97-100mph range.
I know because I had a 00' GT that ran 14.0 at 100mph.
So you beat a GT from 30 to 120?
Actually you came from behind, passed, and put a car on a GT from 30 to 120??? Come on dude, I have a 2000 5spd and we trap on a good day 94mph, and gt's have way more tq and hp and trap in the 97-100mph range.
I know because I had a 00' GT that ran 14.0 at 100mph.
11-17-2002, 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
As 2K26spd and myslef can tell you, having owned 12 sec Stangs.... Stangs dont drive around trying to gobble up Maximas or Acuras... You cruise around looking to prey on GM's.... and the ocassional ricer you need to smoke in 2 nd gear. As slow as some V8 gt's might be, there is no way on this earth you are going to smoke one in a non 2K2 auto with out some serious mods... I have raced my friends 2K1 Gt auto, and he has always burned me by at least 2 cars. Low 14's are common on any GT.
I call :
I dont think your purposely lying, you just confused the Stang with a V6, that might even of had fake badges. They also sell a dual exhaust set up for the V6 that makes it look like a GT...
As 2K26spd and myslef can tell you, having owned 12 sec Stangs.... Stangs dont drive around trying to gobble up Maximas or Acuras... You cruise around looking to prey on GM's.... and the ocassional ricer you need to smoke in 2 nd gear. As slow as some V8 gt's might be, there is no way on this earth you are going to smoke one in a non 2K2 auto with out some serious mods... I have raced my friends 2K1 Gt auto, and he has always burned me by at least 2 cars. Low 14's are common on any GT.
I call :
I dont think your purposely lying, you just confused the Stang with a V6, that might even of had fake badges. They also sell a dual exhaust set up for the V6 that makes it look like a GT...
6spd Max or 6spd CL-S stock will give a GT some serious trouble 99+ models that is.
A auto CL-S with headers will give a GT 5spd some serious trouble.
Max with a few bolt ons as well should.
11-17-2002, 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
i beat my friends 98 gt 5-spd from a roll all the time and if it was a 99+ auto or a 94-98 auto or stick it's possible too.
i beat my friends 98 gt 5-spd from a roll all the time and if it was a 99+ auto or a 94-98 auto or stick it's possible too.
11-17-2002, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Thats a totally different motor from the Stang we are talking about . I do KNOW Stangs.. A 6 speed can give a 2K auto a good run, might even beat it. But my buddy paid 34K for a loaded 2K3 Cobra, that will smoke 99% of any Cl, Tl, or Maxima... He put $1500 in Mods in it, and he is in the low 12's with street tires.... and Nothing ratles, his hod doesnt vibrate, his paint is not chipping, his rotors aren't warpped ,
Thats a totally different motor from the Stang we are talking about . I do KNOW Stangs.. A 6 speed can give a 2K auto a good run, might even beat it. But my buddy paid 34K for a loaded 2K3 Cobra, that will smoke 99% of any Cl, Tl, or Maxima... He put $1500 in Mods in it, and he is in the low 12's with street tires.... and Nothing ratles, his hod doesnt vibrate, his paint is not chipping, his rotors aren't warpped ,
11-18-2002, 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Thats a totally different motor from the Stang we are talking about . I do KNOW Stangs.. A 6 speed can give a 2K auto a good run, might even beat it. But my buddy paid 34K for a loaded 2K3 Cobra, that will smoke 99% of any Cl, Tl, or Maxima... He put $1500 in Mods in it, and he is in the low 12's with street tires.... and Nothing ratles, his hod doesnt vibrate, his paint is not chipping, his rotors aren't warpped ,
Thats a totally different motor from the Stang we are talking about . I do KNOW Stangs.. A 6 speed can give a 2K auto a good run, might even beat it. But my buddy paid 34K for a loaded 2K3 Cobra, that will smoke 99% of any Cl, Tl, or Maxima... He put $1500 in Mods in it, and he is in the low 12's with street tires.... and Nothing ratles, his hod doesnt vibrate, his paint is not chipping, his rotors aren't warpped ,
11-18-2002, 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
That's because you own a auto and your trap-speed isn't enough to do it. A manual wouldn't have a problem.
6spd Max or 6spd CL-S stock will give a GT some serious trouble 99+ models that is.
A auto CL-S with headers will give a GT 5spd some serious trouble.
Max with a few bolt ons as well should.
That's because you own a auto and your trap-speed isn't enough to do it. A manual wouldn't have a problem.
6spd Max or 6spd CL-S stock will give a GT some serious trouble 99+ models that is.
A auto CL-S with headers will give a GT 5spd some serious trouble.
Max with a few bolt ons as well should.
11-18-2002, 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Thats a totally different motor from the Stang we are talking about . I do KNOW Stangs.. A 6 speed can give a 2K auto a good run, might even beat it. But my buddy paid 34K for a loaded 2K3 Cobra, that will smoke 99% of any Cl, Tl, or Maxima... He put $1500 in Mods in it, and he is in the low 12's with street tires.... and Nothing ratles, his hod doesnt vibrate, his paint is not chipping, his rotors aren't warpped ,
Thats a totally different motor from the Stang we are talking about . I do KNOW Stangs.. A 6 speed can give a 2K auto a good run, might even beat it. But my buddy paid 34K for a loaded 2K3 Cobra, that will smoke 99% of any Cl, Tl, or Maxima... He put $1500 in Mods in it, and he is in the low 12's with street tires.... and Nothing ratles, his hod doesnt vibrate, his paint is not chipping, his rotors aren't warpped ,
People do swaps all the time from the 99 to the 98s now and that puts them up to what the 99 produce in power.
11-18-2002, 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Sorry but I know what I am talking about.
Obviously you do not.
Sorry but I know what I am talking about.
Obviously you do not.
I think I might know a little more since I owned one, and 4 others to be exact!!!
But no matter what I or anyone else say you will be correct, and you will always have the fastest car on the planet.
11-18-2002, 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
Thats funny!!
I think I might know a little more since I owned one, and 4 others to be exact!!!
But no matter what I or anyone else say you will be correct, and you will always have the fastest car on the planet.
Thats funny!!
I think I might know a little more since I owned one, and 4 others to be exact!!!
But no matter what I or anyone else say you will be correct, and you will always have the fastest car on the planet.
Read the Corral.net you might learn something....
I am correct on this, just ADMIT you are WRONG.
It's not that hard to do really. What this got to do with my car? Actually my car is much faster than a Maxima now after my mod this past weekend
11-18-2002, 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Then how come Dave above you agreed agreed with me? He owns one.
Read the Corral.net you might learn something....
I am correct on this, just ADMIT you are WRONG.
It's not that hard to do really. What this got to do with my car? Actually my car is much faster than a Maxima now after my mod this past weekend
Then how come Dave above you agreed agreed with me? He owns one.
Read the Corral.net you might learn something....
I am correct on this, just ADMIT you are WRONG.
It's not that hard to do really. What this got to do with my car? Actually my car is much faster than a Maxima now after my mod this past weekend
go to the track and prove it
11-18-2002, 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Then how come Dave above you agreed agreed with me? He owns one.
Read the Corral.net you might learn something....
I am correct on this, just ADMIT you are WRONG.
It's not that hard to do really. What this got to do with my car? Actually my car is much faster than a Maxima now after my mod this past weekend
Then how come Dave above you agreed agreed with me? He owns one.
Read the Corral.net you might learn something....
I am correct on this, just ADMIT you are WRONG.
It's not that hard to do really. What this got to do with my car? Actually my car is much faster than a Maxima now after my mod this past weekend
11-18-2002, 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Since when did your car run 13s or as a matter of a fact 14s. Your car would have a hard time beating a 5 speed modded Maxima.
Since when did your car run 13s or as a matter of a fact 14s. Your car would have a hard time beating a 5 speed modded Maxima.
My car will run with a good driver 14.3s at 99 mph. Several have done it with only headers. I have yet to go to the track when they have it prepped right like they did in my 01 Maxima when I ran that good time. Nikon can't even run good times in his 4th gen 5spd Maxima with lots of bolt ons including the VI. He is still running mid 15s. Due to traction.
11-18-2002, 08:04 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Funny, I beat them stock (Ask Ants97SE) he wants a rematch, but now he has no chance due to my Headers
My car will run with a good driver 14.3s at 99 mph. Several have done it with only headers. I have yet to go to the track when they have it prepped right like they did in my 01 Maxima when I ran that good time. Nikon can't even run good times in his 4th gen 5spd Maxima with lots of bolt ons including the VI. He is still running mid 15s. Due to traction. [/QUOTE
so you expect your traps to go from 92 to 99 from just headers.
Funny, I beat them stock (Ask Ants97SE) he wants a rematch, but now he has no chance due to my Headers
My car will run with a good driver 14.3s at 99 mph. Several have done it with only headers. I have yet to go to the track when they have it prepped right like they did in my 01 Maxima when I ran that good time. Nikon can't even run good times in his 4th gen 5spd Maxima with lots of bolt ons including the VI. He is still running mid 15s. Due to traction. [/QUOTE
so you expect your traps to go from 92 to 99 from just headers.
11-18-2002, 08:57 AM
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SORRY ABOUT STARTING A WAR....
OK...(notice no caps this time...the sunbject line was just a teaser)...
in reply to this whole argument I just want to add these comments...
1. The mustang is a V8...and it is a 2002 and it is a convertible.
My younger brother actually knows the kid (went to high school with him...the high school is about 1/4 mile from the infamous spot where we raced...so I asked my brother if he knew who it was)....and yes, it is ugly...i don;t care who's looking at it.
2. A long-time friend of mine has a 2000 mustang V8 5 speed...it is a freakin' hunk of junk....he is on his 2nd motor...and only has 72 k miles. My max has 76k and runs like a champ. Also...his car has just as many paint chips, the paint is faded like crazy (he keeps it waxed too) and the interior has more things that are broken than what actually work ..(one of the window motors are burned, the center arm rest is about to come apart, and there are more vibrations, squeaks, rattles, and noises coming from his car at 20 mph then mine at 100. (honestly)
3. All you mustang lovers prepare to get mad.....this same frined (with the 2000 hardtop 5 speed) told me after riding in my car that mine feels just as fast as his car. We have been unable to race, as he just recently got out of the military, (he was in california) and since he got back his car (surprise!) has been in the shop, trying to fix an idle problem. We are going to the track as soon as his car gets out of the shop. I will video tape it too...it should be interesting.
4.
in reply to this whole argument I just want to add these comments...
1. The mustang is a V8...and it is a 2002 and it is a convertible.
My younger brother actually knows the kid (went to high school with him...the high school is about 1/4 mile from the infamous spot where we raced...so I asked my brother if he knew who it was)....and yes, it is ugly...i don;t care who's looking at it.
2. A long-time friend of mine has a 2000 mustang V8 5 speed...it is a freakin' hunk of junk....he is on his 2nd motor...and only has 72 k miles. My max has 76k and runs like a champ. Also...his car has just as many paint chips, the paint is faded like crazy (he keeps it waxed too) and the interior has more things that are broken than what actually work ..(one of the window motors are burned, the center arm rest is about to come apart, and there are more vibrations, squeaks, rattles, and noises coming from his car at 20 mph then mine at 100. (honestly)
3. All you mustang lovers prepare to get mad.....this same frined (with the 2000 hardtop 5 speed) told me after riding in my car that mine feels just as fast as his car. We have been unable to race, as he just recently got out of the military, (he was in california) and since he got back his car (surprise!) has been in the shop, trying to fix an idle problem. We are going to the track as soon as his car gets out of the shop. I will video tape it too...it should be interesting.
4.
11-18-2002, 09:24 AM
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Don't try to educate us please.
Have you noticed that you turn every thread into a CL-S thread, and a Russ bashing thread?? I think you like the attention.
My car will run with a good driver 14.3s at 99 mph
