Wzup guys im not usually in this part of the forum i got a 92 Maxima now i love the car and all, but i don't know what car i want now im gonna get a 200 through a 2002 can not afford the 03 really. What i want to know is cl type s 02 which my boy got me a good hook up on or a Maxima 2000-2002. Please don't say maxima just cuz this is a maxima forum plzzzz. Tell me which one u think is better and y.


Thanx alot guys

 

english please. if you are asking about a cl and a max they are both nice cars. I would go with a 02 maxima before a 02 cl cause I like four doors.

 

CL-S. Overall a better car. Superior fit and finish (it's a honda, after all), sedate but somewhat sporty looks (at least no one will accuse you of owning an ugly car), Acura dealers (how many Nissan quality/dealership horror stories do you need?) and just more classy. Cost of entry is higher = more exclusive

 

CL-S....if you need a 4door than TL-S. If you can't afford either, a 2002 Maxima can be had for cheap.

 

get the CL-s, its about the same in performance as a 2k2 but its to be said an all around better car, and if you can get a good price on it go for it, they are very nice cars, and have a good name backing it up

 

Beware of the Acura 5-speed auto. LOTS of CL/TL owners are experiencing failures at an alarming rate. It reminds a lot of the problems Chrysler has with their 4-speed automatics.


Dave

 

If you want superior quality, outstanding customer service, great service dept....intelligent salespeople...Get the Acura...

If you want to deal with morons and have service **** all over you....get the max.

I would go with the TLs (I need 4 doors).....But Max's are going really cheap now...you can get a hell of a deal on a Max which may offset the drawbacks

My buddy has a TLs it is awsome

 

The only bad thing about the Cls and the Tls is that there is nothing you can buy to hook them up really concidering the only thing you really need is some rims and they look hot. But i'm a guy that likes to hook up cars. I dunno ever since the Cls and Tls have come out i have always been in awwwww for them. I dunno....

 

Not true. CL-S's have headers and much more. Alot more than the 2k2/2k3 Maxima's have. I personally like my Maxima for the 4 doors. The TL-S is more expensive. If 2 doors is ok with you I would have to agree with everyone else so far and say the CL-S is the better overall car. Same performance wise, better suspension and much better fit and finish. Leather is also of higher quality.

 

I have both, recently did a comparo on the TL-S board:

http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=50613

Also included are many other's opinions...

Overall, used 2k2 is a dyn-o-mite deal .. was looking at ones w/ about 15K to 25K on the ODO for about $17-$18K base models... used w/ leather and ME pkg were another $1K - $2K extra w/ same mileage on the board. Bought my brand new SE base for $21.5K .. so I wouldn't regret buying used should I encounter problems w/ my 2k2 used Max.

 

[Not so...Since your dealing with a car that Honda Motor Co. produces. There are a wide-variety of aftermarket parts for it. Hondas/Acuras are known for having alot of aftermarket parts available for them. Heres a site you want to check out. www.comptechusa.com. They produce a variety of aftermarket parts for honda/acuras including the CL & TL models your asking about. Hope this helps your decision on what to buy.

 

New OBX headers (msrp $300.00) will net you anywhere from 20h to 32hp to the wheels when coupled w/ a good intake (injen, AEM $200.00) for the TL-S/CL-S ..

Exhaust gains are minimal and for sound mostly .. no more than 5-10hp. New tires will give you somewhat better, snappier launches, .. pulleys will give you even better throttle response, V-AFC will allow you to modify when VTEC kicks in in the upper pwr band...

 

Thats a very untrue. There are tons of mods out for the Acura CL-S/TL-S. From headers, to supercharger.

Headers alone gives the car 30 hp.

I ran 14.42 at 99.44 mph with only headers in a auto CL-S.

 

is that good? you're pushing ~230WHP right?

 

Right around 220-230 yes.

 

I see there are alot of mods for the cls/tls but what about body kits? unl;ess im just missing them and they are right in front of my face. If i can find a nice body kit i like the cls is sold to me. And I thank you guys a bunch for all your feedback on these cars.

 

I really like factory body kit for TL-S, it looks really nice.

 

Since you arent too sure on another max, Id say the TL-S, and you can do JDM stuff on it.

 

As for the 2k2/3 Maxima performance upgrades, I have two words:

350Z AND aftermarket!

This will be THE MAIN virtue of sharing the powertrain with the 350Z. Performance parts WILL trickle down from the Z.

Peace.

 

Huh? Let's see FWD vs. RWD, different exhausts, different ECU's, etc.

Yup...I can see how the powertrains are SHARED...

 

Between this forum and Acura-cl.com, there's ALOT of sarcasm in existence. It appears that Superhonda doesn't corner the market on this.

Not that I need to explain but, ya know things like valve springs, valves, retainers, pistons, rods, etc,... You see, I look a bit beyond bolt ons (for which these are already available for the 2K2/3 Max).

Pea..whatever.

 

Ok, and exactly how many of these items do you TRULY think they are going to aftermarket for the 350Z, let alone care about compatibility with the Max?

Geesh!

 

And why do you "think" the aftermarket wouldn't promote these types of performance parts for the Z/G35/Max/Alt SE eventually?

....

 

Look at the past couple of decades of history for similar Nissan vehicles...in comparison to other makes, there has not been a massive outpowering of aftermarket support...I find it difficult to believe there will be now.

Never mind the fact that of the 4 you mentioned, ONLY the 350Z will have the type of following and demographics to make production of parts economically viable for ANY supplier. Owners of Alty's, Max's and G's are more consumers than enthusiasts (regardless of how many .org members think otherwise). They buy/lease, drive, trade in or keep. Period.

 

20 years? You want me to look back 20 years? When the only import performance aftermarket resided with Porsches and Karmann Ghias. (Forget any Japanese made cars.) The Japanese import performance aftermarket only really started towards the very end of the 80s and didn't really blossom until mid-90s.

As far as demographics, let's take the VW Jetta/Golf VR6: HUGE aftermarket with loads of guys (enthusiasts) at the track running low 14s - upper 13s. However, the primary buyer has tended to be women (consumers) between the age of 18-30. For that matter, the owners of most makes/models are more likely to be consumers rather than enthusiasts.

Now, I'm not saying that the Max/Z/G/Alt represent the next coming of the Integra/Civic, as far as the aftermarket is concerned. (Only the Mustang and Camaro/Firebird have a bigger aftermarket.)

However, I'm certain there will be a recognizable aftermarket for the Max because this motor will be/is in a majority of Nissan's USDM vehicles. And knowing that the guys here at Maxima.org as well as Altimas.net are respresentative of a larger demographic of folks looking to upgrade the performance of their Nissan's, I have no doubt that a formidable aftermarket will develop in the near future.

Peace.

 

Take a look at this page

http://www.vtec.net:8080/news_files/...lsconcept3.jpg
http://www.vtec.net:8080/news_files/...lsconcept1.jpg
http://www.vtec.net:8080/news_files/...lsconcept5.jpg

This one is comtech sc
http://www.vtec.net:8080/news_files/...lsconcept6.jpg

Now this is just a concept for now, but it looks not too shabby.

 

Above links don't seem to work directly. Here is the page I got the links from.

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=50357

 

The supercharger is not a concept. It is available forsale for only the 6spd. Auto ETA 1-2 months.

 

Man oh man there is so much to look into for the both of these cars since im a big maxima fan and all. But The Cls/Tls are so tight and are a bit better. Are there any other cars you guys would recommend othern then the maxim ,cls/tls? Thanx again for all the info and help

 

I meant just the body kit. I knew the SC was available already. I guess the wording in my post wasn't ordered right. Sorry about that

Other than CL-S and TL-S there really isn't anything comparable to 2k2 max unless you want to spend a lot more and go German, or go domestic. Pontiac GrandPrix GTP is supposed to be quite a performer. I don't have the first hand experience but I think it has 250+ hp stock. Correct me if I'm wrong. If you don't mind 2 door there is Mustang GT, and maybe a used Vette, but this is whole other thread....

 

Go buy an Altima...Just don't open your eyes while inside

 

I don't like that body kit. Maybe it's just the pics, but it reminds me of a Thunderbird or the late 80's early 90's. I'm sure the body kit looks better in person. CL-S's are sweet.

 

Isn't this supercharger already available for the J30A1 (6G Accord V6) and scheduled to come out for the J32A1/2 (CL/TL)and J35A (MDX/Pilot)very shortly??

I'm tempted to purchase an MDX and bolt on this S/C.

 

It's already out.. Been out for about 2 months now for the 6spd CL-S.

http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/sc_cls6.html