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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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gas peadl block thingy

whats the deal with that little block under the gas pedal, does removing that do anything, never saw anything about it on any other posts.
Old Jan 14, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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Re: gas peadl block thingy

Originally posted by ColdSHO
whats the deal with that little block under the gas pedal, does removing that do anything, never saw anything about it on any other posts.
Not sure, but I don't think that you want to remove it. I have an earlier 2k2, and I have a recall for my car. The recall is there because the acclerator can get stuck if I were to push down hard on the acclerator, and to the right. The fix? They put a little stopper on the accelerator to prevent this from happening. I'm assuming that this is the same little block that you are talking about. So, no, I don't think that it would be a good idea for you to remove it.
Old Jan 14, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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Removing the block will allow you to over-extend the throtle, allowing you to post a "My car got stuck at full-throttle and I **** my pants" post.

Take the time you would have taken to cut the block and wax your car. More rewards, guaranteed.
Old Jan 14, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by bert
Removing the block will allow you to over-extend the throtle, allowing you to post a "My car got stuck at full-throttle and I **** my pants" post.

Take the time you would have taken to cut the block and wax your car. More rewards, guaranteed.
id be terrified if that happened.
Old Jan 14, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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id be terrified if that happened.
happend to me on a highway in montreal in my old car, thortle cable snaped at WOT. kinda intresting since i was going 68mph and just kept going. I tried using my brakes but they heated up fast so i sliped in N and shut down the engine so i wouldn't kill it and costed to a stop without pwr brakes.

i'm suprised how calm i was when handling the situation

but then again i've lost by brakes twice on my other cars once on the highway too

god i love rusty beater gms
Old Jan 15, 2003 | 05:17 AM
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I'll remember that tip....my life may someday depend on it.
Old Jan 15, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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If you are in a 2k2 at least...

and you remove that block, the first time you WOT you'll get a SES light. The reason the block is there is to limit the voltage sent to the throttle position sensor. If it goes above a certain voltage, the car goes into a limp mode and you have to disconnect the battery to clear it.
It is so sensitive that They did the recall on mine and when I was running at the Rock, I guess I was puching too hard on the pedal (you get the full voltage at 3/4 pedal anyway) and it shut down. I took it to the dealer and they basically put a washer under the stop to make sure it deliver's the correct amount of voltage.

In other words, don't remove it...
Old Jan 15, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Re: If you are in a 2k2 at least...

Originally posted by Shaydz
and you remove that block, the first time you WOT you'll get a SES light. The reason the block is there is to limit the voltage sent to the throttle position sensor. If it goes above a certain voltage, the car goes into a limp mode and you have to disconnect the battery to clear it.
It is so sensitive that They did the recall on mine and when I was running at the Rock, I guess I was puching too hard on the pedal (you get the full voltage at 3/4 pedal anyway) and it shut down. I took it to the dealer and they basically put a washer under the stop to make sure it deliver's the correct amount of voltage.

In other words, don't remove it...
so at 3/4 throttle your actually getting wot power basically?
Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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Re: Re: If you are in a 2k2 at least...

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so at 3/4 throttle your actually getting wot power basically?
According to the TSB, yes. The voltage is not supposed to go higher than a particular range. it's like 3.85 volt max or something (I will use numbers here as an example but they are probably not the correct numbers). I have the particulars at home in hardcopy. I'll look at it tonight.
It even states that if the voltage is still too high to put a washer under the stop to minimize the max (pun) travel in the pedal. I think that WOT occurs at the 3/4 mark of the voltage. So if at 3/4 you are sending 3.15 v and that is what the throttle position sensor determines as WOT but you continue pressing to the stop and it gets 3.9v, the sensor throws a SEL. Inother words anything after this 3.15v is not used by the ECU to increase fuel/air mixtures. BUT over 3.85 threatens to burn out the Throttle Position Sensor and it protects itself by shutting down. When a SEL is thrown, you will be at 1K RPM no amount of pressing the pedal will change that until you clear it. Luckily, it is one of the few codes that can be reset by unhooking the battery for a while in the 2K2. The dealer can still access it and determine cause but at least you can drive and there is no light.

This is to the best of my knowledge. If anyone else has more info, everyone would appreciate it.
Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by bert
Removing the block will allow you to over-extend the throtle, allowing you to post a "My car got stuck at full-throttle and I **** my pants" post.
Old Jan 15, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Re: Re: Re: If you are in a 2k2 at least...

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According to the TSB, yes. The voltage is not supposed to go higher than a particular range. it's like 3.85 volt max or something (I will use numbers here as an example but they are probably not the correct numbers). I have the particulars at home in hardcopy. I'll look at it tonight.
It even states that if the voltage is still too high to put a washer under the stop to minimize the max (pun) travel in the pedal. I think that WOT occurs at the 3/4 mark of the voltage. So if at 3/4 you are sending 3.15 v and that is what the throttle position sensor determines as WOT but you continue pressing to the stop and it gets 3.9v, the sensor throws a SEL. Inother words anything after this 3.15v is not used by the ECU to increase fuel/air mixtures. BUT over 3.85 threatens to burn out the Throttle Position Sensor and it protects itself by shutting down. When a SEL is thrown, you will be at 1K RPM no amount of pressing the pedal will change that until you clear it. Luckily, it is one of the few codes that can be reset by unhooking the battery for a while in the 2K2. The dealer can still access it and determine cause but at least you can drive and there is no light.

This is to the best of my knowledge. If anyone else has more info, everyone would appreciate it.
i figured this was ture because it seems in my car 3/4-full is the same power. and i used to say well its because the dirve by wire is very sensitive, but now i can reassure myself i was right the 1st time.
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