Hydrogen gas?
01-23-2003, 08:09 PM
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Hydrogen gas?
Anyone thought of venting hydrogen gases into the intakes for added power? Was thinking about it but was not sure if the hydrogen gas will damage any of the sensor. or maybe the sensor will not pick it up. any thoughts?
Jack
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01-23-2003, 08:18 PM
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Re: Hydrogen gas?
Originally posted by 3D2kMax
Anyone thought of venting hydrogen gases into the intakes for added power? Was thinking about it but was not sure if the hydrogen gas will damage any of the sensor. or maybe the sensor will not pick it up. any thoughts?
Jack
Anyone thought of venting hydrogen gases into the intakes for added power? Was thinking about it but was not sure if the hydrogen gas will damage any of the sensor. or maybe the sensor will not pick it up. any thoughts?
Jack
But I'm No expert.....Good Luck!!!!
01-23-2003, 08:43 PM
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Are ya kidding me?Hydrogen powered vehicles are considered Alternate Fueled vehicles, like propane, cng, etc. which would require another gas tank to be added to the cars, and multiple modifications to the engine, and the only thing you'll be doing is slowing the car down!
You can go ahead and print up the fliers that say 'Got Hydro?' though and you can tell me if it looks better or worse than the 'Got Nos?' stickers...
01-23-2003, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by PHATMAN5050
Are ya kidding me?
Hydrogen powered vehicles are considered Alternate Fueled vehicles, like propane, cng, etc. which would require another gas tank to be added to the cars, and multiple modifications to the engine, and the only thing you'll be doing is slowing the car down!
You can go ahead and print up the fliers that say 'Got Hydro?' though and you can tell me if it looks better or worse than the 'Got Nos?' stickers...
Are ya kidding me?Hydrogen powered vehicles are considered Alternate Fueled vehicles, like propane, cng, etc. which would require another gas tank to be added to the cars, and multiple modifications to the engine, and the only thing you'll be doing is slowing the car down!
You can go ahead and print up the fliers that say 'Got Hydro?' though and you can tell me if it looks better or worse than the 'Got Nos?' stickers...
Yes but that is hydrogen powered cars, not gasoline and hydrogen powered cars. That's just insane
01-23-2003, 09:02 PM
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01-23-2003, 10:25 PM
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i dont want to sound like an ***, but this is a stupid question, study some basic chemicals and u would realize hydrogen isnt flammable by itself, only when there is oxygen present. its not a power adder, its a fuel source.
01-24-2003, 02:22 PM
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Re: Hydrogen gas?
Originally posted by 3D2kMax
Anyone thought of venting hydrogen gases into the intakes for added power? Was thinking about it but was not sure if the hydrogen gas will damage any of the sensor. or maybe the sensor will not pick it up. any thoughts?
Jack
Anyone thought of venting hydrogen gases into the intakes for added power? Was thinking about it but was not sure if the hydrogen gas will damage any of the sensor. or maybe the sensor will not pick it up. any thoughts?
Jack
01-24-2003, 02:32 PM
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While I wouldn't want to try this myself, after thinking about it, I really don't see what is so outlandish about the idea.
A main concern is the volatility of the different materials...i.e. hydrogen and gasoline. There would have to be a proportionately higher amount of gasoline per hydrogen amount and introduced in such a way as to assure complete mixing of the two.
The results, while maybe not in terms of raw power, should at least be a cleaner running engine since a percentage of the fuel typically used has been replaced with the hydrogen gas which burns VERY cleanly.
A main concern is the volatility of the different materials...i.e. hydrogen and gasoline. There would have to be a proportionately higher amount of gasoline per hydrogen amount and introduced in such a way as to assure complete mixing of the two.
The results, while maybe not in terms of raw power, should at least be a cleaner running engine since a percentage of the fuel typically used has been replaced with the hydrogen gas which burns VERY cleanly.
01-24-2003, 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by jjs
While I wouldn't want to try this myself, after thinking about it, I really don't see what is so outlandish about the idea.
A main concern is the volatility of the different materials...i.e. hydrogen and gasoline. There would have to be a proportionately higher amount of gasoline per hydrogen amount and introduced in such a way as to assure complete mixing of the two.
The results, while maybe not in terms of raw power, should at least be a cleaner running engine since a percentage of the fuel typically used has been replaced with the hydrogen gas which burns VERY cleanly.
While I wouldn't want to try this myself, after thinking about it, I really don't see what is so outlandish about the idea.
A main concern is the volatility of the different materials...i.e. hydrogen and gasoline. There would have to be a proportionately higher amount of gasoline per hydrogen amount and introduced in such a way as to assure complete mixing of the two.
The results, while maybe not in terms of raw power, should at least be a cleaner running engine since a percentage of the fuel typically used has been replaced with the hydrogen gas which burns VERY cleanly.
01-24-2003, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by SkylineGTR
i dont want to sound like an ***, but this is a stupid question, study some basic chemicals and u would realize hydrogen isnt flammable by itself, only when there is oxygen present. its not a power adder, its a fuel source.
i dont want to sound like an ***, but this is a stupid question, study some basic chemicals and u would realize hydrogen isnt flammable by itself, only when there is oxygen present. its not a power adder, its a fuel source.
Next, I know someone will ask if it would be a good idea to spray liquid O2.
01-25-2003, 12:10 AM
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I'll have to check with my chemistry professor again, but i think he was using such an example 2 weeks ago. I believe he said that the biggest problem with hydrogen powered vehicles is the danger when hydrogen is exposed to oxygen. Hydrogen, if i'm not mistaking as mentionned above, is only flammable when in contact with oxygen. Now i believe that it's as soon as there is contact. Basically, if you are able to get hydrogen in an isolated state by itself and are able to inject that in some way in your vehicle, as soon as it makes contact with the oxygen it's going to ignite. Therefore, i'll tell you right now that you won't be able to get it through your intake. Otherwise it's going to be like someone making a bomb and having it accidentally detonate on him. Very bad. Another problem you'll run into is that hydrogen isn't as smooth as the gas. It's a violent explosion when in contact with oxygen. So if you're able to get it sprayed in somehow like they do NOS, once the explosion occurs in the engine, GOD help you man.
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