What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
01-25-2003, 03:54 PM
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What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
01-25-2003, 05:32 PM
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Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
01-25-2003, 05:46 PM
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When I bought my 2k2, the dealer allowed me to keep my 2k Max for 10 days to remove my stereo, springs, etc. and before I did that I raced it against my 2k2 6-speed to see how much faster it was. I had beaten my 2k by about 2 car lenghts or so. The mods I had on my 2k were a stillen intake, y-pipe, and UR Pulleys. Get NOS or a supercharger
01-25-2003, 05:47 PM
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Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
01-25-2003, 05:54 PM
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Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by MaxItalia
Have you raced a stock 6spd with your car yet?
Have you raced a stock 6spd with your car yet?
nope. BTW my Y-pipe is not in yet, just ordered.
01-25-2003, 05:59 PM
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Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
01-25-2003, 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Lumbee799
Actually a full turbo kit with Nitrous is the only way you will beat us.
Actually a full turbo kit with Nitrous is the only way you will beat us.
Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
01-25-2003, 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it
Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
01-25-2003, 09:44 PM
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For a 3-liter to keep up with a 3.5??
- A blown MAF on the 3.5
- A senile senior citizen driving the 3.5
- A flat tire on the 3.5
- That the 3.5 gets caught in the slower lane
- About $5000 into the 3-liter
- A senile senior citizen driving the 3.5
- A flat tire on the 3.5
- That the 3.5 gets caught in the slower lane
- About $5000 into the 3-liter
01-25-2003, 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it
Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
Dropping the "depreciation" bomb is a pretty desperate move......
Face the facts. There aren't enough bolt on mods available for 2K-2K1 to compete with the stock 3.5L. A quick look at the timeslips in this forum will prove that. Modded NA 3.0's are low to mid 15's on average.
01-25-2003, 11:50 PM
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If you don't have a big bottle in the trunk or are blown, count on seeing silver tails quite a bit. There's not enough mods out there yet (if ever) to compensate for the extra torque the 3.5's have on the 3.0's. Nitrous is cheap if you're that desparate.
01-26-2003, 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it
Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
wow you all are so full of hate
wow you all are so full of hate
(ASU - pretty funny, BTW
)
01-26-2003, 01:58 PM
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It's like the old redneck saying
"there is no substitute for cubic inches", and a half of liter is quite a bit.
But with a Y, Intake and some good tires I would suspect it would come down to driver, a good launch can do wonders.
But with a Y, Intake and some good tires I would suspect it would come down to driver, a good launch can do wonders.
01-26-2003, 02:04 PM
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Re: For a 3-liter to keep up with a 3.5??
Originally posted by Galo
- A blown MAF on the 3.5
- A senile senior citizen driving the 3.5
- A flat tire on the 3.5
- That the 3.5 gets caught in the slower lane
- About $5000 into the 3-liter
- A blown MAF on the 3.5
- A senile senior citizen driving the 3.5
- A flat tire on the 3.5
- That the 3.5 gets caught in the slower lane
- About $5000 into the 3-liter
LEMAR
01-26-2003, 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
Bitter, party of one, your table is now available.
Dropping the "depreciation" bomb is a pretty desperate move......
Face the facts. There aren't enough bolt on mods available for 2K-2K1 to compete with the stock 3.5L. A quick look at the timeslips in this forum will prove that. Modded NA 3.0's are low to mid 15's on average.
Bitter, party of one, your table is now available.
Dropping the "depreciation" bomb is a pretty desperate move......
Face the facts. There aren't enough bolt on mods available for 2K-2K1 to compete with the stock 3.5L. A quick look at the timeslips in this forum will prove that. Modded NA 3.0's are low to mid 15's on average.
I ran 14.83 at 94.6 mph BONE STOCK with a bad 2.4xx 60ft in my 2001 5spd Max.
01-26-2003, 04:17 PM
#25
Originally posted by Maximax2
OTHER people are so full of hate? Isn't that YOUR quote up there...? And you're surprised that ASU and some others handed you your ***?
(ASU - pretty funny, BTW )
OTHER people are so full of hate? Isn't that YOUR quote up there...? And you're surprised that ASU and some others handed you your ***?
(ASU - pretty funny, BTW
)
01-26-2003, 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Modded NA 3.0s? low to mid 15s?! Oh please.
I ran 14.83 at 94.6 mph BONE STOCK with a bad 2.4xx 60ft in my 2001 5spd Max.
Modded NA 3.0s? low to mid 15s?! Oh please.
I ran 14.83 at 94.6 mph BONE STOCK with a bad 2.4xx 60ft in my 2001 5spd Max.
01-26-2003, 04:29 PM
#28
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
On Average? Hmmm modded alot of them are high 14s. But should we say on average the 6spd Max is also a mid to high 14 sec car.
On Average? Hmmm modded alot of them are high 14s. But should we say on average the 6spd Max is also a mid to high 14 sec car.
01-26-2003, 04:34 PM
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There is a seriuos lack of 2000-2001 maxima owners who actualy race there car at the track. 2002's are a good bit quicker stock for stock. But a 2000 max with a good driver and a intake/Y-pipe can hold it's own against any stock 2002 max. I think some 2000 owners need to get to the track and represent.
01-26-2003, 04:49 PM
#30
Originally posted by emax95
There is a seriuos lack of 2000-2001 maxima owners who actualy race there car at the track. 2002's are a good bit quicker stock for stock. But a 2000 max with a good driver and a intake/Y-pipe can hold it's own against any stock 2002 max. I think some 2000 owners need to get to the track and represent.
There is a seriuos lack of 2000-2001 maxima owners who actualy race there car at the track. 2002's are a good bit quicker stock for stock. But a 2000 max with a good driver and a intake/Y-pipe can hold it's own against any stock 2002 max. I think some 2000 owners need to get to the track and represent.
01-26-2003, 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
Well then, I guess you'll be bringing up the rear. Better watch out for that Murano in the rear veiw too
Well then, I guess you'll be bringing up the rear. Better watch out for that Murano in the rear veiw too
01-26-2003, 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by John2KSE
Well at least us 2K & 2k1 won't be going to the dealer every month to get our check engine light turned "OFF"! You can have your speed, I'll take my reliability.
Well at least us 2K & 2k1 won't be going to the dealer every month to get our check engine light turned "OFF"! You can have your speed, I'll take my reliability.
01-26-2003, 05:27 PM
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Wow, Max guys dissin and fightin with other Max guys, you know it's pretty sad that we've really got no other competition so now we have to compare ourselves with one another.
And you know who I blame for this, that damn VQ Engine, thing is just too good for its' own good.
Give each other an internet hug or at least a
and make up, we brothers we supposed to get along.
Touchy feely moment. Is that
And you know who I blame for this, that damn VQ Engine, thing is just too good for its' own good.
Give each other an internet hug or at least a
and make up, we brothers we supposed to get along.Touchy feely moment. Is that
01-26-2003, 05:53 PM
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Re: It's like the old redneck saying
Originally posted by Blackgums100
"there is no substitute for cubic inches", and a half of liter is quite a bit.
But with a Y, Intake and some good tires I would suspect it would come down to driver, a good launch can do wonders.
"there is no substitute for cubic inches", and a half of liter is quite a bit.
But with a Y, Intake and some good tires I would suspect it would come down to driver, a good launch can do wonders.
Anyway..this spring I would love to take the pepsi challenge with a bone stock 3.5 6sp.
I will have:
FrankIntake
Budget Y
UDP
Timing Advance
STS
I would think I would at least be even. Assuming even drivers anyway.
01-26-2003, 08:10 PM
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Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
I have an intake and will have a Y-pipe, but not sure this is enough to make the car as fast as 2k3 6spd. WHat other mods besides NOS and S/C will make my car faster?
Lots of 2k-2k1 people get around 20 fwhp with just a cone intake and y-pipe. Adding a mid-pipe, strait-pipe, and b-pipe would add a considerable amount to that. 10 hp is a very very conservative guess. I don’t know the exact numbers, but a 2k 5 spd with just the basic bolt-on intake and exhaust components (intake, mid-pipe, y-pipe, strait-pipe, b-pipe, and muffler [if you can stand the noise]) would own a stock 2k3 all the way up. I figure a full intake/exhaust set-up would make the 2k around 210-220 fwhp and it would have a sweet high end. It would cost about $600 to do to a stock 2k if you go with frankencar and budget exhaust parts. After that there is a long list of stuff to do before nos/sc/turbo: better tires, advance timing, pullies, etc... If you get a Budget strait-pipe and b-pipe, I bet you will beat your friend easily.
Just my .02
01-26-2003, 08:26 PM
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Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by 2kGLE
To answer your question, the way I see it, a stock 2k 5spd puts down about 175-185hp to the wheels (right? thats conservative i think) and a 2k3 6spd puts down about 195-205 fwhp (correct me if I’m wrong; I recall seeing a dyno that got 204 and another that got 194). 30 extra fwhp should be adequate to keep up with (probably beat) a 2k3 6 spd. If anyone here really thinks that the only way a modded 2k 5spd can beat a 6 spd is to add nitrous, SC, or turbo, then they might have some reading to do.
Lots of 2k-2k1 people get around 20 fwhp with just a cone intake and y-pipe. Adding a mid-pipe, strait-pipe, and b-pipe would add a considerable amount to that. 10 hp is a very very conservative guess. I don’t know the exact numbers, but a 2k 5 spd with just the basic bolt-on intake and exhaust components (intake, mid-pipe, y-pipe, strait-pipe, b-pipe, and muffler [if you can stand the noise]) would own a stock 2k3 all the way up. I figure a full intake/exhaust set-up would make the 2k around 210-220 fwhp and it would have a sweet high end. It would cost about $600 to do to a stock 2k if you go with frankencar and budget exhaust parts. After that there is a long list of stuff to do before nos/sc/turbo: better tires, advance timing, pullies, etc... If you get a Budget strait-pipe and b-pipe, I bet you will beat your friend easily.
Just my .02
To answer your question, the way I see it, a stock 2k 5spd puts down about 175-185hp to the wheels (right? thats conservative i think) and a 2k3 6spd puts down about 195-205 fwhp (correct me if I’m wrong; I recall seeing a dyno that got 204 and another that got 194). 30 extra fwhp should be adequate to keep up with (probably beat) a 2k3 6 spd. If anyone here really thinks that the only way a modded 2k 5spd can beat a 6 spd is to add nitrous, SC, or turbo, then they might have some reading to do.
Lots of 2k-2k1 people get around 20 fwhp with just a cone intake and y-pipe. Adding a mid-pipe, strait-pipe, and b-pipe would add a considerable amount to that. 10 hp is a very very conservative guess. I don’t know the exact numbers, but a 2k 5 spd with just the basic bolt-on intake and exhaust components (intake, mid-pipe, y-pipe, strait-pipe, b-pipe, and muffler [if you can stand the noise]) would own a stock 2k3 all the way up. I figure a full intake/exhaust set-up would make the 2k around 210-220 fwhp and it would have a sweet high end. It would cost about $600 to do to a stock 2k if you go with frankencar and budget exhaust parts. After that there is a long list of stuff to do before nos/sc/turbo: better tires, advance timing, pullies, etc... If you get a Budget strait-pipe and b-pipe, I bet you will beat your friend easily.
Just my .02
thanks for buddy for an educated and unbiased answer!
01-26-2003, 08:36 PM
#39
Originally posted by John2KSE
Well at least us 2K & 2k1 won't be going to the dealer every month to get our check engine light turned "OFF"! You can have your speed, I'll take my reliability.
Well at least us 2K & 2k1 won't be going to the dealer every month to get our check engine light turned "OFF"! You can have your speed, I'll take my reliability.
My Max has only made 1 trip to the dealer for a TSB, so your point has no validity.
01-26-2003, 08:42 PM
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Pretty sad thread considering I'm pretty sure the fastest proven cars on this board are 4th gen's.
I suggest that only drivers who have actually been to a track respond to this thread moving forward.
I suggest that only drivers who have actually been to a track respond to this thread moving forward.