What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
01-26-2003, 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I did not say anything offensive. Re: handing *** trust me I am not punk about mine so you better STFU and MYOB
I did not say anything offensive. Re: handing *** trust me I am not punk about mine so you better STFU and MYOB
Easy there tiger. So from your point of view this isn't offensive?
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
01-26-2003, 10:42 PM
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Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by 2kGLE
To answer your question, the way I see it, a stock 2k 5spd puts down about 175-185hp to the wheels (right? thats conservative i think) and a 2k3 6spd puts down about 195-205 fwhp (correct me if I’m wrong; I recall seeing a dyno that got 204 and another that got 194). 30 extra fwhp should be adequate to keep up with (probably beat) a 2k3 6 spd. If anyone here really thinks that the only way a modded 2k 5spd can beat a 6 spd is to add nitrous, SC, or turbo, then they might have some reading to do.
Lots of 2k-2k1 people get around 20 fwhp with just a cone intake and y-pipe. Adding a mid-pipe, strait-pipe, and b-pipe would add a considerable amount to that. 10 hp is a very very conservative guess. I don’t know the exact numbers, but a 2k 5 spd with just the basic bolt-on intake and exhaust components (intake, mid-pipe, y-pipe, strait-pipe, b-pipe, and muffler [if you can stand the noise]) would own a stock 2k3 all the way up. I figure a full intake/exhaust set-up would make the 2k around 210-220 fwhp and it would have a sweet high end. It would cost about $600 to do to a stock 2k if you go with frankencar and budget exhaust parts. After that there is a long list of stuff to do before nos/sc/turbo: better tires, advance timing, pullies, etc... If you get a Budget strait-pipe and b-pipe, I bet you will beat your friend easily.
Just my .02
To answer your question, the way I see it, a stock 2k 5spd puts down about 175-185hp to the wheels (right? thats conservative i think) and a 2k3 6spd puts down about 195-205 fwhp (correct me if I’m wrong; I recall seeing a dyno that got 204 and another that got 194). 30 extra fwhp should be adequate to keep up with (probably beat) a 2k3 6 spd. If anyone here really thinks that the only way a modded 2k 5spd can beat a 6 spd is to add nitrous, SC, or turbo, then they might have some reading to do.
Lots of 2k-2k1 people get around 20 fwhp with just a cone intake and y-pipe. Adding a mid-pipe, strait-pipe, and b-pipe would add a considerable amount to that. 10 hp is a very very conservative guess. I don’t know the exact numbers, but a 2k 5 spd with just the basic bolt-on intake and exhaust components (intake, mid-pipe, y-pipe, strait-pipe, b-pipe, and muffler [if you can stand the noise]) would own a stock 2k3 all the way up. I figure a full intake/exhaust set-up would make the 2k around 210-220 fwhp and it would have a sweet high end. It would cost about $600 to do to a stock 2k if you go with frankencar and budget exhaust parts. After that there is a long list of stuff to do before nos/sc/turbo: better tires, advance timing, pullies, etc... If you get a Budget strait-pipe and b-pipe, I bet you will beat your friend easily.
Just my .02
BTW the mods you have listed will cost a lot more then $600
Ohh and for him "easaly beating his friend", don't forget a 2002 max ran a 14.23 stock, find me single NA 2000 max beatign that time(no one has beaten it).
01-27-2003, 01:28 AM
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Re: Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by emax95
You my friend have some reading to do. I don't know where your getting your HP #'s from. Simply put, find me a 2000-2001 maxima that makes more WHP and WTQ then a stock 2002 maxima. All the mods you listed will get a 2000 max to about 205 WHP(not 220), right where a 2002 is.. You also forgot something else, the 2002 maxima still puts down another 15-20 WTQ over your moded 2000 max. Don't forget the 2002 6spd also has tighter gears..
BTW the mods you have listed will cost a lot more then $600
Ohh and for him "easaly beating his friend", don't forget a 2002 max ran a 14.23 stock, find me single NA 2000 max beatign that time(no one has beaten it).
You my friend have some reading to do. I don't know where your getting your HP #'s from. Simply put, find me a 2000-2001 maxima that makes more WHP and WTQ then a stock 2002 maxima. All the mods you listed will get a 2000 max to about 205 WHP(not 220), right where a 2002 is.. You also forgot something else, the 2002 maxima still puts down another 15-20 WTQ over your moded 2000 max. Don't forget the 2002 6spd also has tighter gears..
BTW the mods you have listed will cost a lot more then $600
Ohh and for him "easaly beating his friend", don't forget a 2002 max ran a 14.23 stock, find me single NA 2000 max beatign that time(no one has beaten it).
I figure if ppl are getting around 205hp/190tq with an intake and cat back, then if you added a y-pipe (which eliminates 2 pre-cats) and replaced the cat with a straight pipe you would probably get an extra 10-20 hp. I’m not sure about the tq though. It seems sometimes ppl get a good tq improvement with a y-pipe and others don’t. I think a 2k would probably win all around over a stock 2k2 with just these mods, but like I said, there are plenty more. If people’s 2k-2k1’s are getting around 205 hp with only an intake and cat back, then how can all the mods I said only add up to 205?
Frankencar intake w/ mid-pipe = $140, Budget y = 160, strait-pipe = ~$40, Budget b-pipe = $200. Total = $540. I’m not sure what a muffler costs (I don’t plan to get one and haven’t researched much). I’m sure budget could hook it up for cheap, especially if you are buying a full exhaust.
Ok, a 2k2 ran a 14.23 stock and no 2k-2k1 has beaten that time without nitrous/sc/turbo, I believe you. Does it mean it’s not possible like a whole bunch of ppl here just said? I doubt it. As Dave B pointed out, Mad Max hit 14.3 in a 2k with a cai and a y-pipe.
01-27-2003, 04:56 AM
#46
Re: Re: It's like the old redneck saying
Originally posted by fhaze_max
Isn't it "There ain't no replacement for displacment"?
Anyway..this spring I would love to take the pepsi challenge with a bone stock 3.5 6sp.
I will have:
FrankIntake
Budget Y
UDP
Timing Advance
STS
I would think I would at least be even. Assuming even drivers anyway.
Isn't it "There ain't no replacement for displacment"?
Anyway..this spring I would love to take the pepsi challenge with a bone stock 3.5 6sp.
I will have:
FrankIntake
Budget Y
UDP
Timing Advance
STS
I would think I would at least be even. Assuming even drivers anyway.
Pepsi challenge?
Are you suggesting that you are going to drive these cars blind?
01-27-2003, 05:31 AM
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Re: Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Just for reference, my stock 2001 5spd dynoed 184 hp and 193 tq.
Originally posted by emax95
You my friend have some reading to do. I don't know where your getting your HP #'s from. Simply put, find me a 2000-2001 maxima that makes more WHP and WTQ then a stock 2002 maxima. All the mods you listed will get a 2000 max to about 205 WHP(not 220), right where a 2002 is.. You also forgot something else, the 2002 maxima still puts down another 15-20 WTQ over your moded 2000 max. Don't forget the 2002 6spd also has tighter gears..
BTW the mods you have listed will cost a lot more then $600
Ohh and for him "easaly beating his friend", don't forget a 2002 max ran a 14.23 stock, find me single NA 2000 max beatign that time(no one has beaten it).
You my friend have some reading to do. I don't know where your getting your HP #'s from. Simply put, find me a 2000-2001 maxima that makes more WHP and WTQ then a stock 2002 maxima. All the mods you listed will get a 2000 max to about 205 WHP(not 220), right where a 2002 is.. You also forgot something else, the 2002 maxima still puts down another 15-20 WTQ over your moded 2000 max. Don't forget the 2002 6spd also has tighter gears..
BTW the mods you have listed will cost a lot more then $600
Ohh and for him "easaly beating his friend", don't forget a 2002 max ran a 14.23 stock, find me single NA 2000 max beatign that time(no one has beaten it).
01-27-2003, 05:51 AM
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Well I am a 3.0 guy who tries to represent us 5spds but I just can't get it out of the hole!! My latest trip to the track yielded a 15.09 with a 2.41 60'!! I really don't consider my powertech muffler as a mod (done more for sound and cosmetics) and other than that I have a K&N with 2k2_6spd's GAB mod and ooglie scoop.
The way I look at it: a 2.2 60ft time is going to yield me a 14.7-14.8 1/4 and I will be happy with that.
One thing I will say is that some 2k2's are factory freaks like 2k2_6spd car which topped 100mph with a gutted cat a K&N. There is not any of us 2k guys who can touch that kind of mph without serious poweradders.
Russ, Please don't compare your stock time with mine!
The way I look at it: a 2.2 60ft time is going to yield me a 14.7-14.8 1/4 and I will be happy with that.
One thing I will say is that some 2k2's are factory freaks like 2k2_6spd car which topped 100mph with a gutted cat a K&N. There is not any of us 2k guys who can touch that kind of mph without serious poweradders.
Russ, Please don't compare your stock time with mine!
01-27-2003, 06:00 AM
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5 spd vs. 6 spd. would it make a difference if its an auto vs. auto? cuz i raced one. i got a 2k2. and my cousin has a 2k auto. he has an intake and ypipe. all i have is intake and catback. i beat him all the way. it was from a start too.
ps for us 2k2 autos out there. try racing an early 5th gen 5 spd from a roll. it'll be a good race. our variable intake kicks in. its nice.
ps for us 2k2 autos out there. try racing an early 5th gen 5 spd from a roll. it'll be a good race. our variable intake kicks in. its nice.
01-27-2003, 06:10 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
Originally posted by 2kGLE
I figure if ppl are getting around 205hp/190tq with an intake and cat back, then if you added a y-pipe (which eliminates 2 pre-cats) and replaced the cat with a straight pipe you would probably get an extra 10-20 hp. I’m not sure about the tq though. It seems sometimes ppl get a good tq improvement with a y-pipe and others don’t. I think a 2k would probably win all around over a stock 2k2 with just these mods, but like I said, there are plenty more. If people’s 2k-2k1’s are getting around 205 hp with only an intake and cat back, then how can all the mods I said only add up to 205?
I figure if ppl are getting around 205hp/190tq with an intake and cat back, then if you added a y-pipe (which eliminates 2 pre-cats) and replaced the cat with a straight pipe you would probably get an extra 10-20 hp. I’m not sure about the tq though. It seems sometimes ppl get a good tq improvement with a y-pipe and others don’t. I think a 2k would probably win all around over a stock 2k2 with just these mods, but like I said, there are plenty more. If people’s 2k-2k1’s are getting around 205 hp with only an intake and cat back, then how can all the mods I said only add up to 205?
More analysis at the bottom.I think you're making the classic mistake and only comparing maximum PEAK horsepower numbers. True, a modded 00-01 would probably keep up with a stock 3.5 on the highway. The 00-01's are top-end beasts. But you're forgetting something that's very important.
Modded 00-01: 205 whp / 190 wtq
Stock 02-03: 205 whp / 220 wtq
The 3.5L is not the top-end beast that the DE-K's were. So despite only having 205 whp, the engine is significantly more powerful than that number suggests because of all the torque. Even with a fully modded 2k, the 02/03 will have so much more torque to rip them off of the line that they'll probably pull a couple of cars in 1st and 2nd. 3rd gear and up are more top-end dependent, so it'd probably be even after that. But now the 2k got toasted off the line and doesn't have any more power over the 02 stock to pull on it with so it still gets beat.
That said, I think a modded 2k would be able to stay with a stock 2k2 on the highway at higher speeds, but that's about it. Around town they're still gonna get toasted by the 3.5's with all that torque.
EDIT2: If you could mod a 2k to above 205 whp NA, as 2kGLE was implying, then you could probably pull one on the highway, but you're still not going to get enough extra torque to take a 3.5 around town, or even in the 1/4 mile.
01-27-2003, 06:38 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What does it take for 2k 5spd to keep up w/2k3 6spd?
We are looking at 30-ft/lbs of grunt. I suppose it could be overcome by the reaction time or launch? I havent been to the track yet, but I will this spring so excuse my ignorance.
BTW wasn't there a 4th gen who did 13.99 NA?
BTW wasn't there a 4th gen who did 13.99 NA?
01-27-2003, 07:20 AM
#53
Originally posted by 2000 SE
Well I am a 3.0 guy who tries to represent us 5spds but I just can't get it out of the hole!! My latest trip to the track yielded a 15.09 with a 2.41 60'!! I really don't consider my powertech muffler as a mod (done more for sound and cosmetics) and other than that I have a K&N with 2k2_6spd's GAB mod and ooglie scoop.
Well I am a 3.0 guy who tries to represent us 5spds but I just can't get it out of the hole!! My latest trip to the track yielded a 15.09 with a 2.41 60'!! I really don't consider my powertech muffler as a mod (done more for sound and cosmetics) and other than that I have a K&N with 2k2_6spd's GAB mod and ooglie scoop.
01-27-2003, 07:21 AM
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As Steve said
the extra half liter just gives to much torque.
But I damn well know that a slightly modded 2K, 2K1 can beat a 2K2 and it depends on the driver, so for every 2K2/2K3 owner out there don't be over confident, this post wasn't originaly about track times, it was about street race. And to any who have been in them know it's easy to spin off the line, miss a shift, etc.. and get beat. Either way I think the 2K2/2K3 Max is the niciest one built.
To any of the 2K2/2K3 owners who haven't seen the fourth gen times try for a moment to not think your car is the greatest thing since sliced bread and check out some of the other groups, the general Max and your local groups have a ton of info.
But I damn well know that a slightly modded 2K, 2K1 can beat a 2K2 and it depends on the driver, so for every 2K2/2K3 owner out there don't be over confident, this post wasn't originaly about track times, it was about street race. And to any who have been in them know it's easy to spin off the line, miss a shift, etc.. and get beat. Either way I think the 2K2/2K3 Max is the niciest one built.
To any of the 2K2/2K3 owners who haven't seen the fourth gen times try for a moment to not think your car is the greatest thing since sliced bread and check out some of the other groups, the general Max and your local groups have a ton of info.
01-27-2003, 07:36 AM
#56
Originally posted by MichaelAE
Pretty sad thread considering I'm pretty sure the fastest proven cars on this board are 4th gen's.
I suggest that only drivers who have actually been to a track respond to this thread moving forward.
Pretty sad thread considering I'm pretty sure the fastest proven cars on this board are 4th gen's.
I suggest that only drivers who have actually been to a track respond to this thread moving forward.
01-27-2003, 07:53 AM
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Re: As Steve said
Originally posted by Blackgums100
the extra half liter just gives to much torque.
But I damn well know that a slightly modded 2K, 2K1 can beat a 2K2 and it depends on the driver, so for every 2K2/2K3 owner out there don't be over confident, this post wasn't originaly about track times, it was about street race. And to any who have been in them know it's easy to spin off the line, miss a shift, etc.. and get beat. Either way I think the 2K2/2K3 Max is the niciest one built.
the extra half liter just gives to much torque.
But I damn well know that a slightly modded 2K, 2K1 can beat a 2K2 and it depends on the driver, so for every 2K2/2K3 owner out there don't be over confident, this post wasn't originaly about track times, it was about street race. And to any who have been in them know it's easy to spin off the line, miss a shift, etc.. and get beat. Either way I think the 2K2/2K3 Max is the niciest one built.
The 2k-2k1s problem is it's weight. It weighs ~200lbs more than a 4th gen, yet it only makes ~180fwhp and ~190fwtq. When I drove Russ' stock 2K1, it felt smooth and linear, but it lacked the lowend punch of the 4th gen. I think Nissan saw this as a problem therefore they tuned the 2k2s intake manifold to make more lowend power vs pure topend hp. The switchover in the 2k2 occurs around 4000rpms (correct?) vs the 2k-2k1s 5000rpm switchover. Right there shows there's a difference in the tuning resonance of the manifolds. Also the fact that the 2k2 doesn't breath as well up top suggests the manifold is more tuned for us torque-demanding Americans. IMO, you can never have enough torque and the power characteristics of the 2k2 give it the advantage from 0-60mph. After that, it's gonna be close.
I know someone brought up the gearing advantage of the 2k2 6 speed vs the 5 speed, but if you crunch the numbers you'll see that the 2k2 only has 5% deeper gearing. This is meaningless. It takes an increase/decrease of ~15% in gearing to see any real measureable difference (~.1 -.15 seconds). At least that's been my experience with Mustangs and F-Bodies.
This coming weekend I'll be racing against a 2k3 6 speed at the track. I'll post the results.
Dave
01-27-2003, 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it
Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles.
I did not say anything offensive. Re: handing *** trust me I am not punk about mine so you better STFU and MYOB
full turbo kit my *** you all 2k2 2k3 owners are so snobby thinking you all that, BS you are the ones hit the most with depreciation. So, shove it where you got it
Hell no I am not getting that 2k2-2k3 its so GHEY to drive a car whose engine is found in at least a dozen of other vehicles. I did not say anything offensive. Re: handing *** trust me I am not punk about mine so you better STFU and MYOB
Even if you do get close or even beat your friends STOCK 03 you will have spent close to a grand to do so. Then the question is how long does the 03 stay Stock?
I had a 96, a 99 and now an 02. The 1st thing I did to all of'em was put an new intake in...
Hey a 1/2l is a 1/2l, bigger engine in the same body is gonna have more power. Once the mod game gets started you'll have 2 choices new car or boost. I'm sorry Nissan did this to you mid stream, who are they to make a car with more power than you have. Hey I wasn't happy when after I got my 99 and they added more power to the 2k but there is no reason to get ugly about it. It's called progression. Sometimes life is a B!tch deal with it. I know most people don't have the resources to get a new car every 3yrs Hell I don't either my 1st two were business leases but I bought the 02. So you'll just have to ask yourself is it worth the price to beat my friend? And only you can answer that question.
P.S. as far as depreciation goes now that there are 1-1/2 gens out after yours how much do you take a hit? Oh and how many different vehicles is the 3.0 in? 3? 4? so why don't you STFU!
01-27-2003, 08:15 AM
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Yup, if automakers don't improve cars then people would have little incentive to keep buying them, and business wouldn't be nearly as good. And obviously it works. A whole FLOOD of 4G/5G Maxima owners hopped on the bandwagon and traded for 02's when they came out. The 02's represented the first significant performance jump for Maxima's since the 1992 VE's! 
01-27-2003, 11:24 AM
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this is getting funny...
This is a little off topic (sorry) but I remember reading a while ago in a 4th gen thread about how a '99 could beat a stock '00 (better "weight distribution" or some crap like that). Then I read in a 5th gen thread how an '01 could beat an '02.
So, I guess 4th gen ownz... US!
Is Nissan really making the cars *slower* as the generations go on, or are people getting a little defensive as their gen is no longer the fastest?
This is a little off topic (sorry) but I remember reading a while ago in a 4th gen thread about how a '99 could beat a stock '00 (better "weight distribution" or some crap like that). Then I read in a 5th gen thread how an '01 could beat an '02.
So, I guess 4th gen ownz... US!
Is Nissan really making the cars *slower* as the generations go on, or are people getting a little defensive as their gen is no longer the fastest?
01-27-2003, 11:26 AM
#72
Originally posted by maximaman777
P.S. as far as depreciation goes now that there are 1-1/2 gens out after yours how much do you take a hit? Oh and how many different vehicles is the 3.0 in? 3? 4? so why don't you STFU!
P.S. as far as depreciation goes now that there are 1-1/2 gens out after yours how much do you take a hit? Oh and how many different vehicles is the 3.0 in? 3? 4? so why don't you STFU!
Very surprised to see so much hate from 6 spd owners. Sad.
That's what everyone in this thread is starting to sound like.
01-27-2003, 12:59 PM
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ok, i'm gonna throw in my two cents here even though it'll probably be worth less than that. Measure stock for stock: 2k1 auto ~15.5, 2k2 auto ~15 / 2k1 5spd ~14.8, 2k2 6spd ~14.3. those seem to be the median numbers i've seen from this forum. yes there are exceptions both ways, but i'm trying to roughly average out factory freaks and good or bad drivers. so, the 2k2 is half a second faster than the 2k1 ON AVERAGE.
Now, figure a 2k1 5spd, add a full intake, ypipe, full exhaust, udp, advance the timing, and do some grounding work (thats every bolt on power mod i can think of right now) - that should put the 2k1 5spd at very low 14's, right with the 2k2 or maybe even a tad faster, but right there. the same with a 2k1 auto, will put it right at the 2k2 auto point.
And as for there being a lack of low 2k1 NA numbers, thats because most of the poeple who go crazy with the 2k1's went boost, thus throwing the NA thing out the window. there are a lot more NA 4th gen serious modders than 5th gens, at leats thats how it seems to me. i haven't seen anyone who tried to use motor only on the VQ30DE-K... so i don't know exactly what its capable of in good hands.
my two cents...
Measure stock for stock: 2k1 auto ~15.5, 2k2 auto ~15 / 2k1 5spd ~14.8, 2k2 6spd ~14.3. those seem to be the median numbers i've seen from this forum. yes there are exceptions both ways, but i'm trying to roughly average out factory freaks and good or bad drivers. so, the 2k2 is half a second faster than the 2k1 ON AVERAGE. Now, figure a 2k1 5spd, add a full intake, ypipe, full exhaust, udp, advance the timing, and do some grounding work (thats every bolt on power mod i can think of right now) - that should put the 2k1 5spd at very low 14's, right with the 2k2 or maybe even a tad faster, but right there. the same with a 2k1 auto, will put it right at the 2k2 auto point.
And as for there being a lack of low 2k1 NA numbers, thats because most of the poeple who go crazy with the 2k1's went boost, thus throwing the NA thing out the window. there are a lot more NA 4th gen serious modders than 5th gens, at leats thats how it seems to me. i haven't seen anyone who tried to use motor only on the VQ30DE-K... so i don't know exactly what its capable of in good hands.
my two cents...
01-27-2003, 01:44 PM
#77
I don't know what people are talking about , but I used to own 2000 SE 5-speed and my new 2002 6-speed is so much faster, it is not even close. I don't know about 2000 5-speed making more power right upto the redline, but this 6-speed feels so much more faster on and off the highway.
As for comparison, I ran my friends TL-S in my 2000 5-speed and he pulled on me. Recently I raced him on the highway in my 2002 and I completely destroyed him.
Maybe heavily modded 2000 5-speed can keep up with 2002 6-speed, but I am not too sure about that.
As for comparison, I ran my friends TL-S in my 2000 5-speed and he pulled on me. Recently I raced him on the highway in my 2002 and I completely destroyed him.
Maybe heavily modded 2000 5-speed can keep up with 2002 6-speed, but I am not too sure about that.
01-27-2003, 09:38 PM
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SteVTEC is right ,i had a white 2k 5 speed with the following mods ,y-pipe,rt cat,custom b-pipe,resonator removed,underdrive pulley, intake, heat shield, and advanced timing, i'm on the pike video when steve just got his 6 speed . it was impossible to even keep up with him that night and he was new at driving stick .now i've also raced a fellow org member with a 5 speed 2k who had all the same mods plus a ecu upgrade with my 6 speed, from 70 to 120mph i put at least 4 cars on him twice.
.now i've also raced a fellow org member with a 5 speed 2k who had all the same mods plus a ecu upgrade with my 6 speed, from 70 to 120mph i put at least 4 cars on him twice.
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