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Old 02-17-2003, 08:37 PM
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2002 automatic times

according to http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....2002+auto+time
a 2002 auto SE can run 6.7-6.9 in the 60. I was curious if anyone would have a good estimate of the 60mph time if i were to add the follow:
1. franken car intake with apxi filter
2. cattman y-pipe

the reason i'm asking this is that i know someone who has a BMW 330Ci automatic and they are suppose to run 6.7 - 7.0 and i was just wondering how close of a race it would be if i were to add the 2 mods to a 2002 auto SE
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Old 02-17-2003, 08:42 PM
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You would get a pretty decent gain between the two. You should take the 330 pretty easy.
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Re: 2002 automatic times

Originally posted by LordHowe
according to http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....2002+auto+time
a 2002 auto SE can run 6.7-6.9 in the 60. I was curious if anyone would have a good estimate of the 60mph time if i were to add the follow:
1. franken car intake with apxi filter
2. cattman y-pipe

the reason i'm asking this is that i know someone who has a BMW 330Ci automatic and they are suppose to run 6.7 - 7.0 and i was just wondering how close of a race it would be if i were to add the 2 mods to a 2002 auto SE
where did you get high 6's for 0-60? most people on that thread seem to say mid sixes. i ran my 2k2 GLE at 14.827 down the quarter mile - this translates to a 0-60 time right around 6.5 seconds.

i know there are going to be people who disagree, but i BELIEVE that the general consensus is that from a stop, a 2k2/2k3 will edge out a 330CI, assuming the transmissions are the same.

adding a franken car intake should take away 1/10th, perhaps. to the best of my knowledge, cattman doesn't have a y pipe available for the late 5th gens, but someone correct me if i'm wrong. a few people have installed a warpspeed y-pipe with favorable results. combined with a b-pipe, it seems to add 15 hp at the wheels. with those two mods, you should knock off .3-.4 seconds 0-60 or the 1320.
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Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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young04, stop using such big words, smartie

lordhowe, you can look in the 1/4 mile forum and see if someone has similar setup to what you have...
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:21 AM
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Awesome!! how about in the quater mile race? how close are these two cars?
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Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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where did you get high 6's for 0-60? most people on that thread seem to say mid sixes. i ran my 2k2 GLE at 14.827 down the quarter mile - this translates to a 0-60 time right around 6.5 seconds.

i know there are going to be people who disagree, but i BELIEVE that the general consensus is that from a stop, a 2k2/2k3 will edge out a 330CI, assuming the transmissions are the same.

adding a franken car intake should take away 1/10th, perhaps. to the best of my knowledge, cattman doesn't have a y pipe available for the late 5th gens, but someone correct me if i'm wrong. a few people have installed a warpspeed y-pipe with favorable results. combined with a b-pipe, it seems to add 15 hp at the wheels. with those two mods, you should knock off .3-.4 seconds 0-60 or the 1320.
For your 1/4 mile time of 14.827, is this before or after mod? If this is after mod and you did manual shift your auto when accelerating, then I would say LordHowe is about right on 0-60 timing of 6.7-6.9 sec.

I also read somewhere (C&D?R&T?MT?) that Infiniti I35 auto stock (about the same hp as, but heavier than, 2k2/3 Max) 0-60 timing ranges from 6.9 to 7.3 sec? and somewhere on this board that 2k2/3 auto stock 0-60 timing is about the same as 1995-2001 manual stock, which is around 6.6-7.0 sec? Both seem to confirm that 0-60 for 2k2/3 auto stock is in the upper-mid six secs....
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Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

Originally posted by 2k2wannabe

young04, stop using such big words, smartie

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Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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For your 1/4 mile time of 14.827, is this before or after mod? If this is after mod and you did manual shift your auto when accelerating, then I would say LordHowe is about right on 0-60 timing of 6.7-6.9 sec.

I also read somewhere (C&D?R&T?MT?) that Infiniti I35 auto stock (about the same hp as, but heavier than, 2k2/3 Max) 0-60 timing ranges from 6.9 to 7.3 sec? and somewhere on this board that 2k2/3 auto stock 0-60 timing is about the same as 1995-2001 manual stock, which is around 6.6-7.0 sec? Both seem to confirm that 0-60 for 2k2/3 auto stock is in the upper-mid six secs....
i agree with blubyu - don't mag race because they tend to be rather inaccurate, for a variety of reasons.

as to the 14.827 i was bone stock but i took all the crap out of my trunk (spare tire, jack). i messed with the tire pressures a bit, and i was on an 1/8th of a tank. conditions were very good - dry, october day in the 50's. i manually shifted around 6500K. car had 8000 miles on it or so.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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i agree with blubyu - don't mag race because they tend to be rather inaccurate, for a variety of reasons.

as to the 14.827 i was bone stock but i took all the crap out of my trunk (spare tire, jack). i messed with the tire pressures a bit, and i was on an 1/8th of a tank. conditions were very good - dry, october day in the 50's. i manually shifted around 6500K. car had 8000 miles on it or so.
does manually shifting your automatic make it faster? i thought it slowed you down.... i have a 2k3 auto.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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does manually shifting your automatic make it faster?
Yes.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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does manually shifting your automatic make it faster? i thought it slowed you down.... i have a 2k3 auto.
Yes, because most of our autos will shift at 6,200 (which, depending on who you believe, may actually be even lower because of tach error). This drops you farther down the powerband in the next gear, causing you to lose time.

By manually shifting you can change the shift point to 6,500 (or whatever you want, I guess, until you hit the rev limiter). I find shifting at an indicated 6,200 will make the shift happen at around 6,500.

Note that (also depending on who you believe) this may or may not be good for the tranny...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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Yes, because most of our autos will shift at 6,200 (which, depending on who you believe, may actually be even lower because of tach error). This drops you farther down the powerband in the next gear, causing you to lose time.

By manually shifting you can change the shift point to 6,500 (or whatever you want, I guess, until you hit the rev limiter). I find shifting at an indicated 6,200 will make the shift happen at around 6,500.

Note that (also depending on who you believe) this may or may not be good for the tranny...

I guess I will find out bc I have nailed the rev limiter plenty. i plan on droping the pan in the next 3k miles and replacing the ATF with synthetic. Hopefully I don't have to many metal shavings.
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Old 02-19-2003, 10:25 AM
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anyone would know how close of a race between the two cars in a quater mile? (automatic 2002 SE and triptronic(auto) 330 Ci)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 automatic times

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aRf?


what does aRf mean?
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Originally posted by LordHowe
anyone would know how close of a race between the two cars in a quater mile? (automatic 2002 SE and triptronic(auto) 330 Ci)
a tiptronic should be a drivers race between the 2.
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I believe the manual version of the 330 hits the 60MPH mark in 6.2 seconds. Figure at least .4-.5 seconds longer for the auto version. if it was a SMG, then you'd be screwed, but I don't think they offer the SMG in the 330 yet (or maybe they do, but I've never seen one with it).
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Here's a formula to calculate your approximate 0-60 if you know your 1/8 et and mph: http://notabusinessracing.org/0-60_equation.html

Looks like my 0-60 is 5.37 based on my 1/8 et of 9.151 @ 78.31 mph.
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