Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
03-11-2003, 10:20 PM
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Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
OMG
It feels like I'm sitting in another car. My ride is much smoother and the cornering is much improved. All this time, I thought that this "was the best my max can do" and lived with it. NO MORE!!! I seriously doubt that I'll hydroplane again at 40 mph after driving for 2 hours.
My only grips are (and maybe it's just me)...
* being that my tires is a bit bigger, it makes it look a little awkward. I'll have to check it in daylight and after I put some armor-all on it.
* i notice that the car shifts from side to side at times. I'm going under the impression that the new tires need to break in. I dunno...any comments?
It feels like I'm sitting in another car. My ride is much smoother and the cornering is much improved. All this time, I thought that this "was the best my max can do" and lived with it. NO MORE!!! I seriously doubt that I'll hydroplane again at 40 mph after driving for 2 hours.
My only grips are (and maybe it's just me)...
* being that my tires is a bit bigger, it makes it look a little awkward. I'll have to check it in daylight and after I put some armor-all on it.
* i notice that the car shifts from side to side at times. I'm going under the impression that the new tires need to break in. I dunno...any comments?
03-11-2003, 11:10 PM
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Re: Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
Originally posted by HIDManic
OMG
It feels like I'm sitting in another car. My ride is much smoother and the cornering is much improved. All this time, I thought that this "was the best my max can do" and lived with it. NO MORE!!! I seriously doubt that I'll hydroplane again at 40 mph after driving for 2 hours.
My only grips are (and maybe it's just me)...
* being that my tires is a bit bigger, it makes it look a little awkward. I'll have to check it in daylight and after I put some armor-all on it.
* i notice that the car shifts from side to side at times. I'm going under the impression that the new tires need to break in. I dunno...any comments?
OMG
It feels like I'm sitting in another car. My ride is much smoother and the cornering is much improved. All this time, I thought that this "was the best my max can do" and lived with it. NO MORE!!! I seriously doubt that I'll hydroplane again at 40 mph after driving for 2 hours.
My only grips are (and maybe it's just me)...
* being that my tires is a bit bigger, it makes it look a little awkward. I'll have to check it in daylight and after I put some armor-all on it.
* i notice that the car shifts from side to side at times. I'm going under the impression that the new tires need to break in. I dunno...any comments?
03-11-2003, 11:33 PM
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Re: Re: Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
Originally posted by slickrick
how is the traction when going wot at a stoplight?
how is the traction when going wot at a stoplight?
i didn't get much of chance to thoroughly test them (picked up the car about 4 hours ago). however, i do know that the car feels a tad less peppy. perhaps the smaller tire (circumference) of the 225/50's had better torque. I'll do some more driving tomorrow.
03-12-2003, 08:22 AM
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Alright then, all I really needed to know is if the 235 ont he stock wheel is safe. I know, I know its been discussed like 4368 times on the org be4 but to tell the truth I never really got a solid bottom line answer if they are 100% safe. I need tires and I need then like yesterday, Im not jokin I got like 25K on my potenza's and they are almost down to slicks
Im most probably gonna go with 235/45/ to compensate for the large thread. If I got with that size when im goin 60, its actually goin 58.8 so its about 2.1 % too fast which is well within the 3% error margin. The 235/50 will be 1.5% too slow say ur goin 60 ur actually goin 60.9. Its still not too bad but I still dont know. I just want to be 100% sure its safe to mount 235 on stock rims. Sorry 4 the long post, Thanks
Im most probably gonna go with 235/45/ to compensate for the large thread. If I got with that size when im goin 60, its actually goin 58.8 so its about 2.1 % too fast which is well within the 3% error margin. The 235/50 will be 1.5% too slow say ur goin 60 ur actually goin 60.9. Its still not too bad but I still dont know. I just want to be 100% sure its safe to mount 235 on stock rims. Sorry 4 the long post, Thanks
03-12-2003, 08:27 AM
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HitmanSe it's only 99% safe because .org members assume so. We can't over ride the manufacturers recommendations and specs for their tires. Having said that, most people with the 235/50/17s are happy and haven't had any problems.
03-12-2003, 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by Rgamfn1
HitmanSe it's only 99% safe because .org members assume so. We can't over ride the manufacturers recommendations and specs for their tires. Having said that, most people with the 235/50/17s are happy and haven't had any problems.
HitmanSe it's only 99% safe because .org members assume so. We can't over ride the manufacturers recommendations and specs for their tires. Having said that, most people with the 235/50/17s are happy and haven't had any problems.
03-12-2003, 08:33 AM
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How will the sidewall look like, is it still pretty much straight up and down, or will it have a slightly more angled look to it.
I am planning on removing mine and going up to 18s, if they come off soon, I'll let you know if you want to buy them.
03-12-2003, 08:43 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
Originally posted by HIDManic
not sure what you meant by "wot"...way off topic?
i didn't get much of chance to thoroughly test them (picked up the car about 4 hours ago). however, i do know that the car feels a tad less peppy. perhaps the smaller tire (circumference) of the 225/50's had better torque. I'll do some more driving tomorrow.
not sure what you meant by "wot"...way off topic?
i didn't get much of chance to thoroughly test them (picked up the car about 4 hours ago). however, i do know that the car feels a tad less peppy. perhaps the smaller tire (circumference) of the 225/50's had better torque. I'll do some more driving tomorrow.
you should have searched for that answer.
03-12-2003, 08:58 AM
#13
Originally posted by Rgamfn1
I don't quite understand the striaght up & down. My tires look great, less wheel well gap. A little wider so they stick out and look aggresive, also they keep the wheels from getting curb rash better.
I am planning on removing mine and going up to 18s, if they come off soon, I'll let you know if you want to buy them.
I don't quite understand the striaght up & down. My tires look great, less wheel well gap. A little wider so they stick out and look aggresive, also they keep the wheels from getting curb rash better.
I am planning on removing mine and going up to 18s, if they come off soon, I'll let you know if you want to buy them.
03-12-2003, 11:40 AM
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Well my thoughts on the pilot sport a/s's go like this. I notice about half as much body roll during hard cornering w/ h&r's, a little more noise and they sound like a screamin jet at 120, wet traction is almost unbelievable, still can't go WOT from a dead stop, and I love the tread pattern.
Matt
Matt
03-12-2003, 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2
Well my thoughts on the pilot sport a/s's go like this. I notice about half as much body roll during hard cornering w/ h&r's, a little more noise and they sound like a screamin jet at 120, wet traction is almost unbelievable, still can't go WOT from a dead stop, and I love the tread pattern.
Matt
Well my thoughts on the pilot sport a/s's go like this. I notice about half as much body roll during hard cornering w/ h&r's, a little more noise and they sound like a screamin jet at 120, wet traction is almost unbelievable, still can't go WOT from a dead stop, and I love the tread pattern.
Matt
03-12-2003, 11:50 AM
#17
Originally posted by slickrick
im surprised they are louder than the craptenzas. do you think your 0-60 time has decreased by using the pilot sports?
im surprised they are louder than the craptenzas. do you think your 0-60 time has decreased by using the pilot sports?
Matt
03-12-2003, 12:22 PM
#18
Originally posted by blubyu2k2
well they do hook 10 times better but still to much fwtq just to nail it off the line. I really never tested a 0-60 but I would figure it would be a little quicker due to better traction. Driving in the rain is damn near the same as dry with these tires too
Matt
well they do hook 10 times better but still to much fwtq just to nail it off the line. I really never tested a 0-60 but I would figure it would be a little quicker due to better traction. Driving in the rain is damn near the same as dry with these tires too
Matt
And finally how many bills did it cost you?
Haven't heard about the road noise with these tires before - as if we needed more wind/road noise at high speeds...Jeesh.
03-12-2003, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Shaydz
Did you get those locally or on-line? Are you running 235/50/17's?
And finally how many bills did it cost you?
Haven't heard about the road noise with these tires before - as if we needed more wind/road noise at high speeds...Jeesh.
Did you get those locally or on-line? Are you running 235/50/17's?
And finally how many bills did it cost you?
Haven't heard about the road noise with these tires before - as if we needed more wind/road noise at high speeds...Jeesh.
. I will leave the price private but I got a good deal like cheaper than 2 of them are new and they had approx 5k miles on them
03-12-2003, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Shaydz
How much did you get these for - I'll be going on the exact same tire and size in the next 6 months or so.
How much did you get these for - I'll be going on the exact same tire and size in the next 6 months or so.
03-12-2003, 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2
and im runnin 225/50/17 not 235/50/17...the little more road noise is well worth it IMO
Matt
and im runnin 225/50/17 not 235/50/17...the little more road noise is well worth it IMO
Matt
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03-12-2003, 01:32 PM
#24
Originally posted by Shaydz
How much did you get these for - I'll be going on the exact same tire and size in the next 6 months or so.
How much did you get these for - I'll be going on the exact same tire and size in the next 6 months or so.
03-12-2003, 01:42 PM
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03-12-2003, 02:31 PM
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Sumi -- What size ?
Originally posted by Shaydz
Yeah, I just checked that. Still very expensive. I've heard the Sumi's are similar in wear/traction/weather driving to the Pilots (but much less $$). Any truth to this?
Yeah, I just checked that. Still very expensive. I've heard the Sumi's are similar in wear/traction/weather driving to the Pilots (but much less $$). Any truth to this?
03-12-2003, 02:36 PM
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Re: Sumi -- What size ?
Originally posted by max2k1SE
--> What tire size are you getting for our stock 17" rims ?
--> What tire size are you getting for our stock 17" rims ?
03-12-2003, 02:36 PM
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For the Sumis I'm looking at 235/45/17.
We're supposed to only use 215/50/17, but that's way too thin.
The other option is 225/45/17, but I think that's to short for our stock wheel gap.
Someone said I might be able to squeak by with 235/45/17s so I might give those a try.
We're supposed to only use 215/50/17, but that's way too thin.
The other option is 225/45/17, but I think that's to short for our stock wheel gap.
Someone said I might be able to squeak by with 235/45/17s so I might give those a try.
03-12-2003, 04:34 PM
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Okay...More Impressions today
1. The tires fit on the Max that's for sure.
2. Gas mileage seems to be improved...I noticed it on the drive home. It usually drops significantly.
3. The sidewalls and the rim align up pretty well. There's no flaring IMHO.
4. Definately not as ridged/jolting of a ride, compared to the stock potenzas.
5. Maybe its just me or the tires need to break in, but on freeway driving...the car feels a little susceptable to wind. i dunno...maybe it was a windy day. I was passing a tour bus and my car shifted when it edge past it. i know this happens to all cars. i just don't ever remembering it happening on the potenzas.
6. After taking a good look at it today, the tires don't look overly big at all. in fact, it looks kinda more agressive and stockier looking. i think it has to do with the width of the tire. but even at the side, it looks good.
7. Again, the cornering experience is hands down the most noticeable difference between the stock potenzas and the pilots.
the jury is still out for me on the michelins...at least for now.
2. Gas mileage seems to be improved...I noticed it on the drive home. It usually drops significantly.
3. The sidewalls and the rim align up pretty well. There's no flaring IMHO.
4. Definately not as ridged/jolting of a ride, compared to the stock potenzas.
5. Maybe its just me or the tires need to break in, but on freeway driving...the car feels a little susceptable to wind. i dunno...maybe it was a windy day. I was passing a tour bus and my car shifted when it edge past it. i know this happens to all cars. i just don't ever remembering it happening on the potenzas.
6. After taking a good look at it today, the tires don't look overly big at all. in fact, it looks kinda more agressive and stockier looking. i think it has to do with the width of the tire. but even at the side, it looks good.
7. Again, the cornering experience is hands down the most noticeable difference between the stock potenzas and the pilots.
the jury is still out for me on the michelins...at least for now.
03-12-2003, 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by HitManSE
Alright then, all I really needed to know is if the 235 ont he stock wheel is safe. I know, I know its been discussed like 4368 times on the org be4 but to tell the truth I never really got a solid bottom line answer if they are 100% safe. I need tires and I need then like yesterday, Im not jokin I got like 25K on my potenza's and they are almost down to slicks Im most probably gonna go with 235/45/ to compensate for the large thread. If I got with that size when im goin 60, its actually goin 58.8 so its about 2.1 % too fast which is well within the 3% error margin. The 235/50 will be 1.5% too slow say ur goin 60 ur actually goin 60.9. Its still not too bad but I still dont know. I just want to be 100% sure its safe to mount 235 on stock rims. Sorry 4 the long post, Thanks
Alright then, all I really needed to know is if the 235 ont he stock wheel is safe. I know, I know its been discussed like 4368 times on the org be4 but to tell the truth I never really got a solid bottom line answer if they are 100% safe. I need tires and I need then like yesterday, Im not jokin I got like 25K on my potenza's and they are almost down to slicks
Im most probably gonna go with 235/45/ to compensate for the large thread. If I got with that size when im goin 60, its actually goin 58.8 so its about 2.1 % too fast which is well within the 3% error margin. The 235/50 will be 1.5% too slow say ur goin 60 ur actually goin 60.9. Its still not too bad but I still dont know. I just want to be 100% sure its safe to mount 235 on stock rims. Sorry 4 the long post, Thanks
03-12-2003, 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse
Do yourself a favor and check out the tire posts in the FAQs, HitManSE. The answers you seek are all there.
Do yourself a favor and check out the tire posts in the FAQs, HitManSE. The answers you seek are all there.
) Then Im 100% confident that the same size will be alright on my ride. Im not gonna try to argue with u about tires (I know better ) Just asking 4 fact. So all I want to know is are u runnin on stock wheels with 235/45's ?
03-12-2003, 09:41 PM
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Re: Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
Originally posted by HIDManic
* i notice that the car shifts from side to side at times. I'm going under the impression that the new tires need to break in. I dunno...any comments?
* i notice that the car shifts from side to side at times. I'm going under the impression that the new tires need to break in. I dunno...any comments?
That is the car "riding the rails". It is the best way I can explain when you car slips into a groove in the road. Continuous traffic wears the asphalt down to where there are grooves in the lane. new rubber can hook up on those grooves like a needle to a 12" record!
I test drove a BMW M3 and when it locked on the "rails", I nearly went to correct the car, thus almost losing control! At 80 mph, It wasn't funny..... My max did the same thing when I switched from 15" wannabe BBS rims to my current 17s with some ZR-rated tires. I was prepared when it "rode the rails"................
Just get used to them, that is all.
03-12-2003, 10:35 PM
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Re: Re: Just got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/50/17
Originally posted by GundamWZero
That is the car "riding the rails". It is the best way I can explain when you car slips into a groove in the road. Continuous traffic wears the asphalt down to where there are grooves in the lane. new rubber can hook up on those grooves like a needle to a 12" record!
I test drove a BMW M3 and when it locked on the "rails", I nearly went to correct the car, thus almost losing control! At 80 mph, It wasn't funny..... My max did the same thing when I switched from 15" wannabe BBS rims to my current 17s with some ZR-rated tires. I was prepared when it "rode the rails"................
Just get used to them, that is all.
That is the car "riding the rails". It is the best way I can explain when you car slips into a groove in the road. Continuous traffic wears the asphalt down to where there are grooves in the lane. new rubber can hook up on those grooves like a needle to a 12" record!
I test drove a BMW M3 and when it locked on the "rails", I nearly went to correct the car, thus almost losing control! At 80 mph, It wasn't funny..... My max did the same thing when I switched from 15" wannabe BBS rims to my current 17s with some ZR-rated tires. I was prepared when it "rode the rails"................
Just get used to them, that is all.
hmmm...that's a good possibility. the steering seems to have "mind of its own" when i'm driving in lanes with some smaller grooves. the self-guided effect seems to less on smoother surfaces. such a sensitive tire.
someone asked about traction (WOT), the tires feels glued to the ground...minor wheel spin (2k auto). i have to reserve my judgement until this weekend when it rains here in so cal. as far as pictures, i'll post them soon.
03-13-2003, 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by HitManSE
Been there done that, I know it sez to get 215 with 7" wide rims. Well arnt the stock 17's 7" wide? If im wrong please correct me but I dont want to go down is size. I personally think that the 235/45/17 would be the best between overall size, and keeping the speedo in check. Well ur the rubber dude, If ur runnin 235/45 on stock 17's (atleast I think u got stock 17's ) Then Im 100% confident that the same size will be alright on my ride. Im not gonna try to argue with u about tires (I know better ) Just asking 4 fact. So all I want to know is are u runnin on stock wheels with 235/45's ?
Been there done that, I know it sez to get 215 with 7" wide rims. Well arnt the stock 17's 7" wide? If im wrong please correct me but I dont want to go down is size. I personally think that the 235/45/17 would be the best between overall size, and keeping the speedo in check. Well ur the rubber dude, If ur runnin 235/45 on stock 17's (atleast I think u got stock 17's
) Then Im 100% confident that the same size will be alright on my ride. Im not gonna try to argue with u about tires (I know better ) Just asking 4 fact. So all I want to know is are u runnin on stock wheels with 235/45's ?
03-13-2003, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by turbomolar
Sorry if this has been asked before, but the search function isn't working still...
Do the 235/50/17 on stock '02 rims rub at all during
lock to lock turns?
Thanks.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but the search function isn't working still...
Do the 235/50/17 on stock '02 rims rub at all during
lock to lock turns?
Thanks.
I have that size and they do not rub
