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Old 03-12-2003, 07:09 PM
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Lower or RSB?

I am slowly getting there modding my ride. I am thinking of getting a RSB and also lowering it with tokico shocks and H & R springs. But wouldn't lowering have the same effect (in terms of handling) as adding a RSB? If so then I would forget the RSB and get the shocks and springs cause it gets rid of the wheel gap. Would a combo of both produce a much harsher ride? I live in NYC, the roads are already f'ed up so the best quality ride is of importance to me.
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Re: Lower or RSB?

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I am slowly getting there modding my ride. I am thinking of getting a RSB and also lowering it with tokico shocks and H & R springs. But wouldn't lowering have the same effect (in terms of handling) as adding a RSB? If so then I would forget the RSB and get the shocks and springs cause it gets rid of the wheel gap. Would a combo of both produce a much harsher ride? I live in NYC, the roads are already f'ed up so the best quality ride is of importance to me.
First and foremost .. GO RSB! Now, since you live in NYC - Tokiko's are not recemmonded from those who actually have owned them. I have not been one of them so I am simply going by what I've read.
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lower it and add a rsb..
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if you lower it you do not need to add a rsb the is what better springs and shocks do.
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Old 03-13-2003, 12:02 AM
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You still need a RSB to stop the swayingg... naw, it actually will tighten up the suspension more....
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Old 03-13-2003, 02:43 AM
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I absolutely love my Tokico's. Yes, the RSB will definately help even with the Toks and H&R's.
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Re: Lower or RSB?

Originally posted by gmangda
I am slowly getting there modding my ride. I am thinking of getting a RSB and also lowering it with tokico shocks and H & R springs. But wouldn't lowering have the same effect (in terms of handling) as adding a RSB? If so then I would forget the RSB and get the shocks and springs cause it gets rid of the wheel gap. Would a combo of both produce a much harsher ride? I live in NYC, the roads are already f'ed up so the best quality ride is of importance to me.
I too have this set up. Lowering does not have the same effect as a RSB. Adding short springs will lower your car's center of gravity and make it more stable. Because the springs are short, they will have less room to travel than OEM springs, but if you go with H&R's, I am sure that you will find the ride to be smooth. My suggestion would be to ride in a car that has the suspension you are interested in installing.
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It depends on your budget and your how to

RSB is a great, cheap mod that you can do yourself for under $200.

Lowered with Toks is much more expensive, and a much tougher install.
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Originally posted by andrew3616
if you lower it you do not need to add a rsb the is what better springs and shocks do.
Agreed. I can't imagine my car handling any better.
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Old 03-13-2003, 08:16 AM
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Agreed. I can't imagine my car handling any better.
Hate to disagree Andy but I did H&R before I did my RSB and adding the bar DID make a difference. You might notice the bar more if your suspension is otherwise stock, but it does flatten out the rear and stabilize everything a little more with the bar, even if you already have springs. Granted I haven't done struts/shocks yet, but the bar did help the springs out.

The FSTB helped too, but even less than the bar. It was VERY easy to install, and made the sterring crisper more than anything else.

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Hate to disagree Andy but I did H&R before I did my RSB and adding the bar DID make a difference. You might notice the bar more if your suspension is otherwise stock, but it does flatten out the rear and stabilize everything a little more with the bar, even if you already have springs. Granted I haven't done struts/shocks yet, but the bar did help the springs out.

The FSTB helped too, but even less than the bar. It was VERY easy to install, and made the sterring crisper more than anything else.

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I've got KYB AGX's. Those are what made the tremendous difference. I feel absolutely no body roll in turns.
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I've got KYB AGX's. Those are what made the tremendous difference. I feel absolutely no body roll in turns.
...Cool. I gotta get struts/shocks.
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Old 03-13-2003, 09:09 AM
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Re: Lower or RSB?

Thanks for all the feed back I'm gonna get both the RSB along with the springs and shocks. Only thing now is if I should get the tokico's or the KYB's.......I know this topic is beaten to death but there's no search function any more.
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Old 03-13-2003, 10:57 AM
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Get the RSB before the springs/struts. Best bang for $$$. You still have some useful life left in the struts. When the struts need replacing probaly in the 70,000 mile range, install both springs and struts at the same time.
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by johnny2kgle
Get the RSB before the springs/struts. Best bang for $$$. You still have some useful life left in the struts. When the struts need replacing probaly in the 70,000 mile range, install both springs and struts at the same time.
...I don't know about gmangda, but for me waiting to get rid of that gawd-awful wheel gap until 70,000 miles just wasn't an option. With the H&R's the car looks like it was SUPPOSED to from the factory.
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Springs and shocks/struts will affect the harshness/firmness of the ride. The RSB won't affect the harshness of the ride but will improve the control of your ride. I have Eibachs and Tokicos and the RSB and I love this setup. The springs and RSB compliment each other IMO.
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If I were I would save your money and not get RSB, but get H&Rs instead. I used to have 2000 SE with RSB and stock springs and now this 2002 SE with H&Rs springs and no RSB and 2002 SE handles much better. It is more stable. I never really felt RSB on my 2000, maybe a little. If you don't go to AutoX, you won't notice it much.

Some people will say that RSB does have a great effect on handling, but I didn't notice almost any.
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Old 03-13-2003, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Matthew


...I don't know about gmangda, but for me waiting to get rid of that gawd-awful wheel gap until 70,000 miles just wasn't an option. With the H&R's the car looks like it was SUPPOSED to from the factory.
TOTALLY agree with you Matthew. And, we have a Max that gives back the driving enjoyment.
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