What happened?

 

VERY interested, let me know what happens

 

bump this up for the autos

 

Hot DAMN guys!!! Thanks to the Nissan tech for posting the TSB and thanks to the dude who started this thread for getting the ball rolling, AGAIN!!!! (sorry I'm too lazy to scroll back through 11 pages to get names!)

 

The ECU number they are talkinf about is software code. It can only be gotten when connected to a Consult-II. Sorry.

 

Would an OBD-2 scanner be able to read the ECU #?

 

I don't know for sure but I find it highly unlikely.

 

Rosenthal called me back yesterday afternoon. They are going to replace the MAF after all but they have to order it. Also, they are replacing at least 2 coilpacks. He stated that they called NNA to discuss my car but he still said they couldn't figure out where the problem was. "Some Max's just idle a little rough".

The way the car drove when I picked it up Friday was great. Don't know how big the problem really is. All I wanted was the TSB. Hopefully, I'll get her back today.

 

because modifying your intake can cause problems with the MAF, and this TSB is directly related to the MAF, so if you have messed with the intake then it's not "nissan OEM" and may have caused the problem (at least in their eyes). You should swap out the mods under your hood, at least.

 

Any update from the couple of folks that have had the update done? One guy reported an SES light?

I'd like to have the hesitation in my 2k3 go away, but being in the tech industry (and having experience with Nissan) I'm a little worried about jumping onto the ECU flash before any bugs come to light...?

 

I just made my appointment at Marlboro Nissan in MA. Service guy was really nice. He had no idea what I was talking about when I first called, but he looked up the service bulletin, found what I was talking about, and was happy to make the appointment.

I'll let you know how the car performs when I get it back this Friday.

Thank you for posting the .pdf!

 

READ the thread. I for one have posted my results.

 

Sorry guys, but when I tried to post it, the dang .org was down!

If it hasn't been posted yet, here it is...link to it anyway

2002-2003 TSB for drive by wire hesitation

It's in .PDF format (Adobe Acrobat)...5 seperate pages...scroll down to the bottom of the page

 

Bump...just in case some of you missed the above post.

 

Quicksilver--thanks a bunch! I will check this out at the next oil change.

 

Thanks!!
I went down to the dealership today and had this upgrade done. I never knew how bad the problem was until I left and tried out the newly programed ECU. It's great well worth the time to have it reprogramed. Thanks Everyone for bring this to my attention. That's why I joined the .org.

 

Actually, I did read the thread - your post said:

Since you didn't feel the problem to begin with, that's not incredibly helpful. So, I was looking for data that's a little more specific; thanks for the great advice though...

 

I have an auto, is there a certain way to check if I am affected (like looking at a particular serial number), or do i just go by if I feel the hesitation or not? Thanks.

 

Read the TSB dude. It gives all the specifics...

 

thanks a lot man....

 

Ditto . It took me almost an hour & 1/2 but I'm sure it will definately be worth it!!!

 

Well I got my update done yesterday and needless to say I am a little dissappointed.The throttle response is only slightly better,but the shift changes were changed as well and I like them much better.

 

Does it feel like it pulls a bit more or it downshifts more when you push the peddle?

do you have an auto or a stick?

 

I bought an 03 GLE about 4 months ago. When I first got the car, I experienced quite a bit of hesitation during acceleration, particularly from full stops. Now, after 4 months, I don't really feel the hesitation much at all. I haven't changed my driving habit and I don't think I have gotten used to the hesitation (so that I don't feel it even when it is there). I have only about 2500 miles on the car and I think the car is now broken-in.

Yesterday I called my dealer and asked if they have gotten a lot of hesitation complaints. They said no. But when I told them I had experienced similar problems, they told me that such problems should self-correct because the car needed to be broken-in and the break-in period might last up to 10000 miles. I don't know about the lengthy break-in period, but I do believe the problem has pretty much self-corrected itself. Has anyone had similar experience?

 

I do not know where to find the emoticon of beating head against wall, so here goes again: Throttle lag is NOT hesitation. I keep reading posts that imply people think that when they push on the gas, and the car does not immediately respond, that is hesitation. In the context of the TSB it is NOT. Please read all the posts, especially tita6's post--THAT is the problem.

Now for some useful information; I took my 2k2 SE 6spd into the dealer today for the traverse link recall, wind noise tsb, and HESITATION tsb. Although I was disappointed that parts had to be ordered for two of these, they DID complete the tsb for hesitation. My car did require reprogramming of the ECU, but no new MAF. I can truly say I am thrilled with the outcome! Not only is the hesitation gone, the car now feels more responsive than the 99 SE 5spd I almost bought a few years back! When I press pedal, it GOES.

To review, previously when accelerating normally and then mashing pedal down even further, engine would momentarily cut out, as if though it stalled, then would accelerate at the new quicker rate. This NEVER happened from dead stop, or from totally off throttle to on throttle.

 

I cannot access this page...is anyone having similar problems?

 

No, I was able to pull it up.

 

is that link for the auto tsb?

 

Ya You have to scroll all the way down to the bottom and there are 5 links for five different pages of the tsb for autos.

 

DO u or anyone by chance have the service bulletin NTB03-023 for the automatci transmissions, I would love to bring that into the dealership next month when I go in for service!!!

Any help is appreciated!

 

Toast,
I bought my car from Cherry Hill Nissan too, Im going there in a few weeks for service, they are all f'in *******s over there!! What was your end result!!??

 

The link to the bulletin NTB03-023 is just four post up from yours.

 

After reading TSB (NTB03-023), it seems to deal with all models (both Maxima and Altima) afflicted with the "lack of power"/"hesitation" issue (both Auto and Manual trannies). I would assume that bringing this TSB to the dealer will suffice for all our cars.

Does this smell like a recall issue that Nissan is trying to deal with on a case by case basis to anyone other than me?

After reading all of these posts from members, it seems that this symptom is intermitent as well as varying in degree. Some people may have the symptom, and not realize it because they don't know any better. Personally I don't feel any hesitation, and I own one of the earliest 2002 M/T models which specifically calls for a MAF upgrade. If I hadn't read this post, I would be oblivious to the entire incident.

This is definitely a safety issue, and Nissan should have issued a recall notice similar to the transverse link recall.

PS- Why do we need to hook up to a Consult II... Why can't Nissan tell which ECM part number we have by our VIN number?

 

In what way are the shifts better? Shifting at higher rpm, closer to redline (I'm assuming you have an auto)? Is this actual shift faster?

Thanks!

 

That way they can say it doesn't apply, like in my case, and we have no way of knowing if they are straight with us or not. This is why I have asked if anyone with an OPB-2 scanner can check if they can view the ECM # through that interface, since that would at least allow us to verify/disprove what they tell us.

 

Recalls or for safty and emissions issues. This is not an issue of either kind it's a performance issue so I don't think it will end up being a recall problem.

 

since it was mentioned earlier, does anyone have a link to a copy of the Wind Noise TSB for 2002s?

thanks

 

I have a printout but no scanner. The TSB # is BT01 - 017A.

 

There is a wind noise thread somewhere up top. I've posted there a copy of the I35 TSB which adds an extra piece of foam tape over what the 00-01 Maxima TSB does. I've done this and it really helps out, though the Max is still a relatively load car.

 

Thanks to all who have provided info on this TSB. Does anyone besides me think that this is Nissan's plan to quietly give us our missing 15 hp?