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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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I just raced a mustang GT (new body), from about an 80 roll. He got a little bit of a jump on me, but we stayed even up till about 90. Then I pulled him hard, by the time I was at 115, I was 5-6 car lengths. This stang looked like the newest(02-03). Does anybody know how fast these things are, because I beat him pretty good.

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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Re: mustang GT

Originally posted by Bulldawg
I just raced a mustang GT (new body), from about an 80 roll. He got a little bit of a jump on me, but we stayed even up till about 90. Then I pulled him hard, by the time I was at 115, I was 5-6 car lengths. This stang looked like the newest(02-03). Does anybody know how fast these things are, because I beat him pretty good.

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Good kill. I think they are rated at 260 hp.
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Yep, mustang GTs have either 3.8L 193 hp V6 or 4.6L 260 hp V8.
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Yep, mustang GTs have either 3.8L 193 hp V6 or 4.6L 260 hp V8.
mustang GT's have a 3.8L V6? are you sure you don't mean that Mustangs have a 3.8L V6? I don't think the GT has a V6 option...unless something changed this year.

but anyway, good kill...I would have thought the GT would pull away from the Maxima on the highway, are you modded? (sorry didn't check your profile/sig)

I'll have a little more confidence against a GT next time around.

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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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Here we go again......
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Are you absolutely sure it was a GT??
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
Are you absolutely sure it was a GT??

Positive. He had dual exhaust and the bumper curved around the exhaust
the below link shows what I am talking about.. BTW this is not his car. this picture is for informational purposes only. So unless he put on the dual exhaust and bought a GT bumper, then it was a GT. Also I don't think that a sixer would have put up as good of a fight as he did. BTW I had my GF with me, and all my tools and my stock rear front suspension was in my trunk. He had two other guys in the car with him.


picture of the rear
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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i could not have been a V6 because he said he said it kept up til about 90. a max would kill a v6 stang, especially on the hight way. but when u said that u had 5-6 cars by 115mph i am sure he started to slow down around 110. it could be possible but unlikely that u walked a newer GT stang buy 5-6 cars after 115mph. those engines are strong and have amazing potential, but good run.
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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I raced GT but he smoked me I raced on the highway... but he killed me... I have a 2k2
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by GreekMaxima
I raced GT but he smoked me I raced on the highway... but he killed me... I have a 2k2
Urz is auto, the 6spd pull to 150+
Old Mar 21, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Let me clarify this for you, 2002 GT's are V8's ONLY. 4.6L. A Maxima would DESTROY a V6 Mustang. It was probably a GT. But i am assuming.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Another BS post of a Re Badged V6 Mustang. Dont be stupid and kid yourself that you smoked a GT V8 Late model Stang. They run low 14's to 13's stock.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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Shut up people. I've killed multiple STOCK GT's with my STOCK 6spd. By multiple I'm talking 7-10 'stangs and they were ALL GT's. New model, hood scoop and everything. We pull on a mustang at top end cause of our VI's we've all been through this before people.

N-E-Ways, good kill I love the sound those V8's make as they fall behind
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:06 AM
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if infact it was a v6 it must have been modded because those 3.8's have no top end.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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Urz is auto, the 6spd pull to 150+
150? you sure? I was thinking 145...tops STOCK...

but I've never been to 145 let alone 150...most I've got mine to is 142...

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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i heard SEs were 147 and GLEs 130

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150? you sure? I was thinking 145...tops STOCK...

but I've never been to 145 let alone 150...most I've got mine to is 142...

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Let's see here, a 5 speed 99+ Stang is good for low low 14s @100-102mph (decent driver) and a 6 speed Maxima is good for 14.4@97mph. Now who's pulling who up top? Have any of you guys ever been to the track? The 99+ GT whether it be a 5 speed or auto (~mid 14s@96mph) is a significantly quicker and faster car than the 94-98 GTs. They actually do have decent topend.

Do I doubt the outcome of the race? No way because I know what happened. They were neck and neck and then the Stang bailed out. The Maxima driver on the other hand kept his foot on it till 115mph. I'm sorry guys, but to pull 5-6 car lengths (~80-100') from ~95mph to 110mph on a 99+ Mustang GT is something a Viper couldn't even do in a race from 95mph to 110mph. The 3.5VQ has decent topend, but it's not that good. Do the calculations, better yet go to the track and witness the truth.


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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B
They were neck and neck and then the Stang bailed out. The Maxima driver on the other hand kept his foot on it till 115mph.
i said that same thing at the 4th post. he let off early. i dont care how good your top end is, you will not pull 5-6 lenghts on a StangGT after 90. at least not N/A. and even then it would be hard
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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If he was an auto I can see it. The auto's in the Mustang GT's really hurt them. I had two auto GT Convertibles and one 5-speed. The 5-speed is a completely different car as far as performance goes. My last one was a 96 Gt Conv 5-speed and it was pretty quick. Not outstanding but pretty good. A 99' and up 5-speed should not have any problem with a Maxima, as long as the guy can drive.

these are just my thoughts...
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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I've hit the high 13.8's with a dead stock '00 GT, so their potential is obvious. It's good to get the kill on such a capable vehicle, but street racing is ****** stupid.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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ibgc (just kidding young04)

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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I raced a rag top GT this weekend. Definitely a GT, had exhuast and not sure what else. Don't know if it was an auto or 5-spd.

We raced from about a 55 mph roll. Was one half length ahead going into 5th gear.
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Originally posted by 02MaximizedVQ
I raced a rag top GT this weekend. Definitely a GT, had exhuast and not sure what else. Don't know if it was an auto or 5-spd.

We raced from about a 55 mph roll. Was one half length ahead going into 5th gear.
The verts are such a different animal than the hardtops. From what I've witnessed, the convertibles are at least 1/2 second slower to 60 MPH.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Quicksilver


The verts are such a different animal than the hardtops. From what I've witnessed, the convertibles are at least 1/2 second slower to 60 MPH.
Well steal my thunder why don't ya.....
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by Quicksilver
I've hit the high 13.8's with a dead stock '00 GT, so their potential is obvious. It's good to get the kill on such a capable vehicle, but street racing is ****** stupid.
So how is it my ~310HP/3000lb. car is only a tick faster then a 260hp/3200lb. car? They must be severely underrated.
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So how is it my ~310HP/3000lb. car is only a tick faster then a 260hp/3200lb. car? They must be severely underrated.
You're talking about a Maxima w/ 310 HP, right? FWD vs. RWD...

The stock '03 Mach 1 can do mid to low 13's, so you can correlate from that. The '03 Mach 1 is a better HP match to your car...
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Quicksilver


You're talking about a Maxima w/ 310 HP, right? FWD vs. RWD...

The stock '03 Mach 1 can do mid to low 13's, so you can correlate from that. The '03 Mach 1 is a better HP match to your car...
Hes got RWD like stated above, from a roll it shouldnt make a diff, but off the line...
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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Let's see here, a 5 speed 99+ Stang is good for low low 14s @100-102mph (decent driver) and a 6 speed Maxima is good for 14.4@97mph. Now who's pulling who up top? Have any of you guys ever been to the track? The 99+ GT whether it be a 5 speed or auto (~mid 14s@96mph) is a significantly quicker and faster car than the 94-98 GTs. They actually do have decent topend.

Do I doubt the outcome of the race? No way because I know what happened. They were neck and neck and then the Stang bailed out. The Maxima driver on the other hand kept his foot on it till 115mph. I'm sorry guys, but to pull 5-6 car lengths (~80-100') from ~95mph to 110mph on a 99+ Mustang GT is something a Viper couldn't even do in a race from 95mph to 110mph. The 3.5VQ has decent topend, but it's not that good. Do the calculations, better yet go to the track and witness the truth.


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I agree, the GT must have let off.
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I agree, the GT must have let off.
Yup, 5-6 carlengths is equivalent to 50-60 hp over a Stang, I don't think so....... By that equasion, you should trap about 105-107 in the 1/4 if you beat a Stang that bad.
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Originally posted by Quicksilver
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You're talking about a Maxima w/ 310 HP, right?
Yes, my V1 SC'd Max w/3.33" pulley, full exhaust, cai, ect.

FWD vs. RWD...
Yes that's true, but for the love of God, it's not going to make up for a 50hp difference. For instance, take a LT1/LS1 Camaro, modded or stock. They are RWD, but have massive torque available at much lower RPM then me, so launches can actually be harder then our FWD maxima's. Since the GT's torque is available lower then mine, shouldn't it have some launching trouble? I know I have a major launching problem, but the GT should too. Were not talking about a couple of 98lb-ft torque honda's here.

The stock '03 Mach 1 can do mid to low 13's, so you can correlate from that. The '03 Mach 1 is a better HP match to your car...
The Mach 1 has tons of torque too, so that should make it a tough one to launch even with RWD.

My car can do mid-low 13's too.




























With David Bronson behind the wheel.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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High tq RWD cars are not that hard to launch, weight transfer plays a huge part, that's why we get outta the whole, and you don't. We load the tires/suspension, and you unload it. It's the first 60' that makes or braeks a race, no mater what power you make. I run 12.1's all day with 321 rwhp in my Stang, but the 300+ fwhp Maximas are lucky to see 13's. It's all about the 60'!!
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OK PPl.

no one said stangs suck....no one is offending any body. But. the race started at 80 mph and he stared before me (a split second). then for a good 6 seconds we were dead even. then as my rpm's climbed in 4th. I began to pull on him very slowly, by about 100-105 his front bumper was at my rear bumber. and he WAS still racing. after i got in front of him i8 didn't look back. once i looked down and saw 115 i decided to shut down. then I checked my mirror, and he was a good 30-40 feet back. I don't know when he quit racing. All i know is that he raced atleast untill i passed him. it doesn't matter if he quit after I passed him, because i was already ahead. I won the race. beleive it or not..... and BTW i fogot to mention that it was a convertible with ohio plates. Also it was white, that could have possible slowed him down some, because white paint is heavier than silver.


I posted this for your enjoyment, not for you to tell me that I am lying. I have better things to worry about. And I do race at the track, I just wanted to have some fun on the way home.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Bulldawg
OK PPl.

no one said stangs suck....no one is offending any body. But. the race started at 80 mph and he stared before me (a split second). then for a good 6 seconds we were dead even. then as my rpm's climbed in 4th. I began to pull on him very slowly, by about 100-105 his front bumper was at my rear bumber. and he WAS still racing. after i got in front of him i8 didn't look back. once i looked down and saw 115 i decided to shut down. then I checked my mirror, and he was a good 30-40 feet back. I don't know when he quit racing. All i know is that he raced atleast untill i passed him. it doesn't matter if he quit after I passed him, because i was already ahead. I won the race. beleive it or not..... and BTW i fogot to mention that it was a convertible with ohio plates. Also it was white, that could have possible slowed him down some, because white paint is heavier than silver.


I posted this for your enjoyment, not for you to tell me that I am lying. I have better things to worry about. And I do race at the track, I just wanted to have some fun on the way home.
peace
Well the average car is 16ft long, so 30 ft is 1 car, including yours, not 5-6 It's the exageration around here that kills me. It's never "I squeeked one out", it's always "I walked a Mustang, Porsche, Vette, Viper by 10 cars". You might be able to beat a stock GT, but not by 5-6 cars, that's ALOT!! Just tell it how it happened, not how you think we wanted to hear it. Alot of guys on this board can see through the BS, if you knew you beet him by 30 ft, then say I beat him by 30ft, not 300ft.
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd


Well the average car is 16ft long, so 30 ft is 2 cars not 5-6 It's the exageration around here that kills me. It's never "I squeeked one out, it's always "I walked a Mustang, Porsche, Vette, Viper by 10 cars". You might be able to beat a stock GT, but not by 5-6 cars, that's ALOT!!

picky picky picky.....i'm sorry I will take a CNN correspondent along with me next time just to make sure, O holy one
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Originally posted by Bulldawg



picky picky picky.....i'm sorry I will take a CNN correspondent along with me next time just to make sure, O holy one
Holy one my a$$, but tell it like it is next time!! And you go to the track, so what do you run? That would help us determine the truth.
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Can't we all just get along? I did the same thing to the ones I raced, edged out slowly until they shut it down realizing they weren't gonna catch me
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Holy one my a$$, but tell it like it is next time!! And you go to the track, so what do you run? That would help us determine the truth.
what the hell difference does it make. I pulled on him and then he gave up. after that it doesn't matter. So I made a mistake, poor judgement on my part, but that doesn't matter because it was after i had gained the lead in the race. he didn't give up until after I had passed him.

14.7 @ 96mph. That was when I first got the car over a year ago, and I haven't gone again.

I don't see the big deal here. a convertible stang is heavier than a maxima. and it only has 5 extra ponies. not to mention that he had more ppl. in his car. I expected to win. If i had of lost, then I would be asking some serious questions about my car. I might even join that group of ppl. with their ludicrous claims to nissan.


"then say I beat him by 30ft, not 300ft."

300/5=60ft. so now the average car is 60 ft long,

i mean if we are going to get technical about it, then i guess i only beat him by half of a car length. damn limo's
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Originally posted by Bulldawg


what the hell difference does it make. I pulled on him and then he gave up. after that it doesn't matter. So I made a mistake, poor judgement on my part, but that doesn't matter because it was after i had gained the lead in the race. he didn't give up until after I had passed him.

14.7 @ 96mph. That was when I first got the car over a year ago, and I haven't gone again.

I don't see the big deal here. a convertible stang is heavier than a maxima. and it only has 5 extra ponies. not to mention that he had more ppl. in his car. I expected to win. If i had of lost, then I would be asking some serious questions about my car. I might even join that group of ppl. with their ludicrous claims to nissan.


"then say I beat him by 30ft, not 300ft."

300/5=60ft. so now the average car is 60 ft long,

i mean if we are going to get technical about it, then i guess i only beat him by half of a car length. damn limo's
Like I stated earlier..

It's definitely a good run on an exceptional performance car. Just don't do that **** on the street again and post about it...I hate seeing the 100+ MPH posts. I've seen too many deaths in my area due to this very subject (had to drive past one just after it happened...one of the worst sights I've ever seen, and believe me, I've seen a lot of bad ****).
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