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Old 03-26-2003 | 06:50 PM
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should i trade the max for this

help i need to be talked out of geting rid of the max. im thinking about trading for a mitsubishi evo. 271 hp comes factory with enkie wheels, big intercooler, recaro racing seat, momo stering wheel, brembo brakes all arounds, inverted struts, and a carbonfiber wing all stock. the thing is even all wheel drive. i saw one this weekend an man that thing was sweet. here is a link for those of you that have not seen it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6355
Old 03-26-2003 | 06:53 PM
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Its fast but I still look at it as a Riced out looking Mirage, I cant see spending that kind of money on that car just for the engine etc. with a 11,000 Mirage body.
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Its fast but I still look at it as a Riced out looking Mirage, I cant see spending that kind of money on that car just for the engine etc. with a 11,000 Mirage body.

hahaha riced out mirage!!!

but in all serious-ness it runs 13's stock...i wouldnt tho...i like to be pimp in my car!!!
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:09 PM
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if that's what you want...go for it.

I would love the power, AWD, but I couldn't stand to be seen in a "riced out Mirage".

also, I wouldn't want to give up my space.

If you want to spend $30,000 for a better performing, yet smaller car, have you considered a 1998/99 BMW M3?

not as fast, but handles f***ing awesome!

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Old 03-26-2003 | 07:10 PM
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it sucks because it is modled after the real evo 7 and it real dosent look any thing like it. a was the real one a nopi and it is much wider and a little long but cant get over the numbers and its all stock. the internals are good for over 400hp. witha nice boost controller and a blow of valve you would be set. then i think to my self why not keep the pimp max on 19s and just be the first to turbo the 3.5. i found out i can get a t4/t5 for about 250 then i could make all the exhaust flanges and pipe at the shop where i go to school. now that would be worth keeping.
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:13 PM
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That car is tight as **** in real person..i went and checked it out...that intercooler is fricking awesome
I would take that car over the WRX and the toolbag Neon car
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:16 PM
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Don't let this new fad of "Riced Str8 From The Factory" (i.e. IS300, OZ-racing Lancer) get you too!



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Old 03-26-2003 | 07:28 PM
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you guys can say it is rice but it is concidered one of the worlds supercars belive it or not it is on the same level as the skyline. it is a super car not a fad it has been around for a lond time. and you can justify the fact that is fast than the maximas by calling ait a "RICE" car the car realy is a awsome piece of enginering. and i cant wait to drive one.
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:29 PM
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i would say that it depends on the person. I used to live
in japan, and the evo was not all that popular. The skyline
always kicked its ****. i don't think that the evo and the max
are in the same class of car. i do know for a fact that mitsu-
bishi had a problem with reliablity with there turbo's. I would
wait a year. let all of bugs get worked out. that is what all of the
guys who bought the first wwrx here. tranny turns into a metal burrito.
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by BLKMAX005SPD
That car is tight as **** in real person..i went and checked it out...that intercooler is fricking awesome
I would take that car over the WRX and the toolbag Neon car
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:32 PM
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ok it was a bit of a stretch to put it with the skyline. but i still do not thing it needs to be put in the some class as mitsubishis bastered child the "OZ" lancer.
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:38 PM
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What ever floats your bubble. Buy the car if you want to. Can I have first dibs on your mods?
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Originally posted by BJGemini
Don't let this new fad of "Riced Str8 From The Factory" (i.e. IS300, OZ-racing Mirage) get you too!



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its not really riced out
Riced out would be
15 in pep boy rims.
stickers all over the car
a huge *** wing( which it has) but still the car is fast...not slow
and ****ty exhaust
and gay lighting all over the car

That car is not riced out at all. It just has a big wing...I hate big wings but it looks good on that car.

And did i mention that intercooler is fricking awesome
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:43 PM
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Its a quick car, but say goodbye to any low-end torque the max has got. Basically no power til u reach above 3500rpm.
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:46 PM
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I would give my left nut for that car, I would even trade the Stang for one. I LOVE turbo's, and that car will make 400hp EASY!! and run 12's even EASIER!!
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Originally posted by HitManSE
Its a quick car, but say goodbye to any low-end torque the max has got. Basically no power til u reach above 3500rpm.
ture ture
but you can always modd the EVO too
haha...
I still like the max too
Old 03-26-2003 | 07:50 PM
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I don't really like it, but to each his own..

BTW, you won't be "trading" anything but a BMW in for one of those.. Good luck finding it for less than $10k over MSRP in the color,trim,options you want... And good luck ordering one..

Personally I'd rather put some cash into the max and supercharge it.. much more fun, plus you keep your room, comfort, style, etc..



Just my $0.02.

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Old 03-26-2003 | 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
I would give my left nut for that car, I would even trade the Stang for one. I LOVE turbo's, and that car will make 400hp EASY!! and run 12's even EASIER!!
Dave u make it sound like ur max is slow, the only thing im really lookin at is from a reliability standpoint. Yeah its got some serious ***** in the top end, and those motors are just as strong as the SR20DE's are so 500hp on that block is very possible. I love turbos, but I want the car to be reliable as well as comfterble to drive. I still would have to give that thing a test drive be4 I make any further judgments on it though.
Old 03-26-2003 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by HitManSE


Dave u make it sound like ur max is slow, the only thing im really lookin at is from a reliability standpoint. Yeah its got some serious ***** in the top end, and those motors are just as strong as the SR20DE's are so 500hp on that block is very possible. I love turbos, but I want the car to be reliable as well as comfterble to drive. I still would have to give that thing a test drive be4 I make any further judgments on it though.
The Max ain't slow, but wait until I build a Turbo for it, should have it all worked out by the end of summer, but their ain't nothing like AWD, except for slicks on a RWD car
Old 03-26-2003 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
I would give my left nut for that car, I would even trade the Stang for one. I LOVE turbo's, and that car will make 400hp EASY!! and run 12's even EASIER!!
Your Short Bus Racing friends would beat you senseless with that hideous spoiler.

I could handle trading for a WRX.....but not that fugly thing.
Old 03-26-2003 | 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by asu174


Your Short Bus Racing friends would beat you senseless with that hideous spoiler.

I could handle trading for a WRX.....but not that fugly thing.
The spoiler is optional.....MR. all show, no go And they would beat me sensless, untill I some them all!!
Old 03-26-2003 | 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by BLKMAX005SPD

its not really riced out
Riced out would be
15 in pep boy rims.
stickers all over the car
a huge *** wing( which it has) but still the car is fast...not slow
and ****ty exhaust
and gay lighting all over the car

That car is not riced out at all. It just has a big wing...I hate big wings but it looks good on that car.

And did i mention that intercooler is fricking awesome
Big Wing =



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p.s. this is really my maxima-ego talking. Rice is the Neon Green Mazda MX-3 with the wing and AR Rims around the corner from me. Or ANY of the altezza'd 4th gens in Bay Ridge too.
Old 03-26-2003 | 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd


The spoiler is optional.....MR. all show, no go And they would beat me sensless, untill I some them all!!
Without the spoiler, the EVO is one hot car.... hmmm... AWD... yummy
Old 03-26-2003 | 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd


The spoiler is optional.....MR. all show, no go And they would beat me sensless, untill I some them all!!
Ever give any thoughts about the WRX STi thats soon to come out? 300hp and 300tq with the AWD means one hell of a holeshot in my book.
Old 03-27-2003 | 04:20 AM
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Ever give any thoughts about the WRX STi thats soon to come out? 300hp and 300tq with the AWD means one hell of a holeshot in my book.
i didnt know they where coming here that is dfinatly a good idea i like the styling better and you stil get the turbo and the AWD adn all the cool stuff thanks that is definatly worth wiating to see about.
Old 03-27-2003 | 04:52 AM
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HitMan got there first, but I second his suggestion. Wait for the WRX STi and then do a comparo.
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so far I see only cons..The riced out Mirage will attract cops. How much is the insurance on that thing anyway? And what is the likelyhood you will be using all that power besides like on the track? Well if you like to go to the track, there's so much more for $30 grand. Also, the full-time 4wd will decrease the gas mileage.
Old 03-27-2003 | 06:25 AM
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I would only go for the Evo if you don't mind a seriously unforgiving ride. I love my max not just for the power, but because it's comfortable and relatively luxurious as well. The EVO is unforgiving - and requires constant focus to harness the power. So, I suppose you have to decide if you want a daily driver or a hard *** rally car.


Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
I would give my left nut for that car, I would even trade the Stang for one. I LOVE turbo's, and that car will make 400hp EASY!! and run 12's even EASIER!!
Old 03-27-2003 | 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by Guinness
I would only go for the Evo if you don't mind a seriously unforgiving ride. I love my max not just for the power, but because it's comfortable and relatively luxurious as well. The EVO is unforgiving - and requires constant focus to harness the power. So, I suppose you have to decide if you want a daily driver or a hard *** rally car.

I want a "daily driver Rally car" I'm not scared, and it can't be any worse than driving a full on drag Mustang to work, just alot more fun.
Old 03-27-2003 | 07:16 AM
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this car is over way over rated..... i would take the WRX STI in a heart beat over this one....

my .02
Old 03-27-2003 | 07:42 AM
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Doesn't the EVO run 19psi of boost STOCK? So where's the room to do any more turbo mods? If you put a BC on it, and turn it up, wouldn't you be risking blowing the engine/turbo? I'm not an expert by any means on turbo'ed cars, but 19psi stock seems a lot, and doesn't leave a lot of room for any more boost.

I like the way the car looks. It's not ricey at all IMO. The wing IS big, but it looks good on the car. The car is show AND go, so it's all good. I would NOT pay over 27K for it though, as it is a "hooked up Mirage", and Mitsu's reliability has never been that great.
Old 03-27-2003 | 12:02 PM
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no it doesnt run 19psi stock. it run some where around 7 psi.
Old 03-27-2003 | 12:24 PM
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I'm going with

Not my style, but not my money! Make your own decision!
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The Lancer Evo is a tighta$$ ride...this is NOT DEBATABLE. Only thing that holds me back is that it's too small, and at the end of the day, it's still a Lancer. Even if I was in the market for one, I would wait and get the WRX STi when that comes out.
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MITSUBISHI = PIECE OF SH!TSI

I'd go for the WRX STi...even though it doesn't compare to the looks of the Max.
Old 03-27-2003 | 12:43 PM
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The Lancer Evo is a tighta$$ ride...this is NOT DEBATABLE. Only thing that holds me back is that it's too small, and at the end of the day, it's still a Lancer. Even if I was in the market for one, I would wait and get the WRX STi when that comes out.
first it is a lancer but not a american one the lancer here is a piece of crap and the evo is not the same. it is a real lancer modled just like a real evoVI. but you are right i would like to wait for the STI to come out i am a big fan of the WRX to start with but eather way i think i will be leaving the max in the future. i will be done with school in about 4 years so i will start looking then that will give all the new cars time to get the bugs out and people to start making mods for them.
Old 03-27-2003 | 12:51 PM
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i wouldn't hit it only because i lose a lot of practicality associated w/ the max

cargo capacity, passenger comfort, refinement, etc.

if however, you were to say you wanna get a nice sport car and those listed above don't matter, go for it.

one thing to consider is that mitsu reliability hasn't been that good, especially this 2.0L turbo. it may be "rally inspired" but it's not that much to scream about. ask the DSM folks
Old 03-27-2003 | 12:55 PM
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Also,

It LOOKS cheap...Looks like a cheap-@ss Shelby hook-up. Yeah they were fast, but so freakin' ugly. A friend of mine had a Dodge Omni GLHS - where the S was a limited edition Shelby - only 500 were made. We used to race corvettes and mustangs and kick their butts...a freakin' Omni!

BTW - MSRP is $28K without additional dealer mark-up. Blech.
Old 03-27-2003 | 01:15 PM
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I'm interested in the Evo as my next car. It is in a different class than the Maxima. The Evo has very little in common with the normal Lancer.

The CF wing is tall but functional at high speeds. It is not ricey.

The Evo DOES run 19psi stock, but only at 3500rpm. Boost drops to a little over 16psi at higher revs. A boost controller that holds 19psi will give a lot more power up top.

The new WRX STi will be a great competitor. You will pay more money for the 2.5L 300hp, 300ft-lb, DCCD, and front LSD. We don't know yet if the new STi handles as well as the Evo. The Evo can match the STi's power with simple cheap mods.

Good points:
The Evo is a low-budget supercar.
It has performance that rivals cars 2 and 3 times its price.
There is huge potential for greater performance with mods.
The 4G63 is a well-known engine, having been tuned by DSM and Galant VR4 owners for the past dozen years. Mods are plentiful.
FMIC
Brembo brakes
Superior handling
Costs less than the STi

Bad points:
It's almost a race car. You'll sacrifice ride comfort, NVH, and some space for improved performance.
It is not near-luxury like a loaded maxima. You can't even get a lot of the Maxima's amenities as OEM options on the Evo.
Maintenance and insurance costs will be higher.
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Originally posted by maxGTRvq35de
you guys can say it is rice but it is concidered one of the worlds supercars belive it or not it is on the same level as the skyline. it is a super car not a fad it has been around for a lond time. and you can justify the fact that is fast than the maximas by calling ait a "RICE" car the car realy is a awsome piece of enginering. and i cant wait to drive one.
Actually, that car is based on the "supercar" that they sell in Japan...it's not the same thing. There are several differeces, the biggest one being that the US version's AWD system gets a serious lobotomy campared to the Japanese version.

Would I own one? No, but that's not really a car for the over 30 (25?, 20? 16?) crowd...at least not in my opinion.


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