Wheel hop broke my car!!!

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Apr 24, 2003 | 12:34 PM
  #1  
I took car to track Tues. and posted in 1/4 mile forum about it http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....readid=209354. On final run, I got severe wheel hop(wipers turned themselves on), but had heard that best runs were with hop, so I kept my foot in it and rode out the storm.

Now my car has a quiet "thunk" when I accelerate from stop. It is not very loud and can barely be felt. Noise is coming from front left suspension area.

By the way, this run was my slowest 60' (~2.45 seconds) and slowest quarter time and trap. I also got hop slamming second on all three runs. Car is 2k2 6spd.
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Apr 24, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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I'm getting 2.3 60s with 0 wheel hop. I feel wheel hop is horrible for the car. Try a happy compromise between slipping the clutch and wheel spin. Wheel hop IMO is very bad for the drivetrain.
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Apr 24, 2003 | 12:38 PM
  #3  
I think that would be considered "beatin the **** outta your car"
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Apr 24, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by SEturner
I took car to track Tues. and posted in 1/4 mile forum about it. On final run, I got severe wheel hop(wipers turned themselves on), but had heard that best runs were with hop, so I kept my foot in it and rode out the storm.

Now my car has a quiet "thunk" when I accelerate from stop. It is not very loud and can barely be felt. Noise is coming from front left suspension area.

By the way, this run was my slowest 60' (~2.45 seconds) and slowest quarter time and trap. I also got hop slamming second on all three runs. Car is 2k2 6spd.
You probably broke your motor mounts at this point
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Apr 24, 2003 | 01:07 PM
  #5  
This would be why wheel hop is BAD.
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Apr 24, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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just curious... how could you think that a tire breaking traction would make for a better time?
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Apr 24, 2003 | 01:40 PM
  #7  
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Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
just curious... how could you think that a tire breaking traction would make for a better time?
One of the regular posters on this site surmised that hop was better than just spinning because the car is gaining momentary traction instead of just simply spinning. He indicated his own personal bests were with hop. Also, I was racing a Mustang GT, and I just didn't want to give up!
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Apr 24, 2003 | 02:13 PM
  #8  
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Originally posted by SEturner


One of the regular posters on this site surmised that hop was better than just spinning because the car is gaining momentary traction instead of just simply spinning. He indicated his own personal bests were with hop. Also, I was racing a Mustang GT, and I just didn't want to give up!
"momentary traction"

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Apr 24, 2003 | 02:24 PM
  #9  
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Originally posted by SEturner


One of the regular posters on this site surmised that hop was better than just spinning because the car is gaining momentary traction instead of just simply spinning. He indicated his own personal bests were with hop. Also, I was racing a Mustang GT, and I just didn't want to give up!
I understand "not wanting to give up" but spin/hop/slip/whatever is always going to decrease time. You'd have done better to let off a little until it got under control... notice that was your worst time
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Apr 24, 2003 | 03:22 PM
  #10  
what is exactly wheel hop
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Apr 24, 2003 | 03:40 PM
  #11  
In a FWD car, wheel hop is when the tire has a ton of grip in it (or the track sometimes), but when the car launches, alot of the weight transfers to the rear. Unfortunately it does not leave much to hold the tire on the pavement.

In my Monte, i don't have posi and i have really only hopped the tire once and it felt like the car was just going to fall apart. Wheel hop is BAD!
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Apr 24, 2003 | 04:32 PM
  #12  
when you accelerate too hard the tires keep momentarily losing traction. they have traction then they lose it, they get some, then lose it, then get some...etc...its like the tires are hopping off the gound. this causes the car to shake and bounce.
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Apr 24, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by PCGuRu2K


You probably broke your motor mounts at this point
how would you go about fixing your motor mounts...
because when i turn my car on it sounds like my engine is lose.
something is ****ed up
my car is ****
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Apr 24, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by BLKMAX005SPD

how would you go about fixing your motor mounts...
because when i turn my car on it sounds like my engine is lose.
something is ****ed up
my car is ****
$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $

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Apr 24, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by BLKMAX005SPD

how would you go about fixing your motor mounts...
because when i turn my car on it sounds like my engine is lose.
something is ****ed up
my car is ****
Buy new ones from Nissan and GIVE ME YOUR OLD ONES!!!! Hehe. Just kidding. Call Dave Burnette at (888)254-6060 once you figure out which you need. Top mount ~$117, rear bottom ~$60, front ~$65, and the trans ~$73. These are old prices, so they may be different now.

Most likely it's the rear bottom mount. Put the car on stands and crawl underneath. There is a support running lengthwise(front-to-rear) and it's mounted on that closer to the firewall. Use a crowbar or BIG azz screwdriver to pry on the support and a STRONG point on the engine. If you can wiggle the engine a little, you'll be able see if the rubber center part of the mount is torn with a flashlight. If that doesn't work, have a friend throttle the engine while you watch the mount. If it bangs metal-to-metal, you need a new one.

BTW, don't throw away the old mounts, you can POLY fill them for next time or if you can be without your car for several days, you can wait for them to cure and save you some money.
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Apr 24, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Buy new ones from Nissan and GIVE ME YOUR OLD ONES!!!! Hehe. Just kidding. Call Dave Burnette at (888)254-6060 once you figure out which you need. Top mount ~$117, rear bottom ~$60, front ~$65, and the trans ~$73. These are old prices, so they may be different now.

Most likely it's the rear bottom mount. Put the car on stands and crawl underneath. There is a support running lengthwise(front-to-rear) and it's mounted on that closer to the firewall. Use a crowbar or BIG azz screwdriver to pry on the support and a STRONG point on the engine. If you can wiggle the engine a little, you'll be able see if the rubber center part of the mount is torn with a flashlight. If that doesn't work, have a friend throttle the engine while you watch the mount. If it bangs metal-to-metal, you need a new one.

BTW, don't throw away the old mounts, you can POLY fill them for next time or if you can be without your car for several days, you can wait for them to cure and save you some money.
Thanks for the help
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Apr 24, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by BLKMAX005SPD

Thanks for the help


Just remember NOT to throw away the broken ones.
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Apr 24, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by BLKMAX005SPD

how would you go about fixing your motor mounts...
because when i turn my car on it sounds like my engine is lose.
something is ****ed up
my car is ****
Buy some polyurethane mounts made by Place Racing.. You won't regret it.. I didn;t
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Apr 25, 2003 | 05:00 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by IceY2K1




Just remember NOT to throw away the broken ones.
why not?
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Apr 25, 2003 | 05:05 AM
  #20  
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Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
just curious... how could you think that a tire breaking traction would make for a better time?
Tires woarm up and stick. Nut that's suposed to be done before taking off, Isn't it???
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Apr 25, 2003 | 05:06 AM
  #21  
The sound could be a bent strut.
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Apr 25, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by Maxman2000


Tires woarm up and stick. Nut that's suposed to be done before taking off, Isn't it???
Right, that's from burning out BEFORE you get on the track. Once the light goes green any slip/spin/hop means the tire is breaking traction.

Short story, wheel hop is never good unless you're looking for a reason to replace a part.
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Apr 25, 2003 | 11:32 AM
  #23  
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wheel hop broke my car!!!
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Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
why not?
Quote:
Originally posted by IceY2K1
BTW, don't throw away the old mounts, you can POLY fill them for next time or if you can be without your car for several days, you can wait for them to cure and save you some money.
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Apr 25, 2003 | 12:44 PM
  #24  
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Originally posted by SEturner


One of the regular posters on this site surmised that hop was better than just spinning because the car is gaining momentary traction instead of just simply spinning. He indicated his own personal bests were with hop. Also, I was racing a Mustang GT, and I just didn't want to give up!
That's the stupidest thing i have ever heard. Really is.
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Apr 25, 2003 | 12:45 PM
  #25  
Could also be the front left stabilizer link (Connects the front stabilizer bar to the control arm, has two ball joins that have a tendency to go), at least that's something that broke on my car.
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Apr 26, 2003 | 05:52 PM
  #26  
about wheel hop and good times...

the first time I ever went to the track, my best ET was 14.9, and I had MAD wheel hop on that run.

it was like 70 out, and at 1000ft though....

a month later, it was 50 out, and I ran a 14.8 w/out wheelhop...

it sucks when it's doing it, feels like the whole car is going to break apart..thank God I didn't break anything.

good luck getting it fixed.

-vq
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Apr 27, 2003 | 08:19 AM
  #27  
Hi, Forrest I did'nt know you were for real??
"One of the regular posters on this site surmised that hop was better than just spinning because the car is gaining momentary traction instead of just simply spinning. He indicated his own personal bests were with hop."

Stupid is as stupid does....
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Apr 27, 2003 | 09:34 AM
  #28  
Steven Kusek with Frankencar was suppose to be manufacturing poly filled motor mounts for our 2K2's that would eliminate wheel hop. I was suppose to get one of the first sets but have not heard back from him.
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Apr 27, 2003 | 10:50 AM
  #29  
Re: Hi, Forrest I did'nt know you were for real??
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Originally posted by Galo
"One of the regular posters on this site surmised that hop was better than just spinning because the car is gaining momentary traction instead of just simply spinning. He indicated his own personal bests were with hop."

Stupid is as stupid does....
just in his defense i remember reading that a few months ago. im pretty sure the guy who said it was one of our habitual drag racers (like MardiGras or Jime). it wasnt just some random kid.
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