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Old May 4, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

I just had that clutch TSB done on my car and the noise that was coming from original clutch is gone, but the clutch feels pretty crappy. When shifting and the clutch is fully pressed, I feel very strong vibration. It wasn't like that on original clutch.

It becomes even worse than you shifting in 3rd and up gears while moving.

Did anybody havr similar thing after getting that TSB done? I kinda regret doing that TSB now, I knew those morons at the dealer will mess something up. The winning sound was annoying on original clutch too, but this clutch pedal feel is even more annoying now. Oh well.
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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I just had that clutch TSB done on my car and the noise that was coming from original clutch is gone, but the clutch feels pretty crappy. When shifting and the clutch is fully pressed, I feel very strong vibration. It wasn't like that on original clutch.

It becomes even worse than you shifting in 3rd and up gears while moving.

Did anybody havr similar thing after getting that TSB done? I kinda regret doing that TSB now, I knew those morons at the dealer will mess something up. The winning sound was annoying on original clutch too, but this clutch pedal feel is even more annoying now. Oh well.
I haven't had this done personally, but now that you mention it, I do recall reading similar experiences from other members (****ty feeling in the clutch pedal post-operation). Not sure if any of them had it redone or whatnot to fix it.
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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I haven't had this done personally, but now that you mention it, I do recall reading similar experiences from other members (****ty feeling in the clutch pedal post-operation). Not sure if any of them had it redone or whatnot to fix it.
Yeah, it feels like crap. Might have to go back have them look at it.

So your original clutch is fine? Is not making any noises?
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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Yeah, it feels like crap. Might have to go back have them look at it.

So your original clutch is fine? Is not making any noises?
Yeah, luckily, my original clutch is fine. I only have 3700 miles, and I'm not sure how many you have, but hopefully mine will not develop any issues. I try to baby it as much as possible!
Old May 4, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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No probs here with my original clutch
Old May 4, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Did your clutch make a howling sounds when being released into 1st gear from a stop? That's what mione does and have appt schedules for this week. Everything else is good (except for a bit of hesitation-but we'll address that after clutch fixed).
Old May 4, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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I've had it done twice. The first time was before the TSB was out. The 2nd time was after. So now I'm on the new clutch. It was bad at first, but has gotten better as it broke in.
Old May 4, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by kratz74
Did your clutch make a howling sounds when being released into 1st gear from a stop? That's what mione does and have appt schedules for this week. Everything else is good (except for a bit of hesitation-but we'll address that after clutch fixed).
Yes, my clutch made this howling sound when being release from 1st or reverse gears from stop. Last week they replaced the clutch and now the pedal feel is like crap. No more howling sound though.
Old May 4, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by studman
I've had it done twice. The first time was before the TSB was out. The 2nd time was after. So now I'm on the new clutch. It was bad at first, but has gotten better as it broke in.
Hopefully when it brakes in it will feel better.
Old May 4, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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OK Thanks for the feedback. It does it only if accelerating at moderate pace and just barely spinning the clutchand only once in a while. Never had a clutch last less than 150K miles and don;t want to start now. Thanks for the feedback.
Old May 5, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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I had the TSB performed for the "howl" at about 12K. After the TSB, I felt that the cluctch felt MUCH better. I started to get more "feel" and the engagement/release point was better defined. I also think that the engagement point moved a little lower . . .

As a side note, I have no more or less "vibration" in the clutch pedal after the TSB as compared to before. It is possible that the clutch was improperly installed on your car - it has to be "aligned" properly. To be more specific, the input shaft to the tranny has to be aligned with the clutch plate, disc and flywheel. A special tool is required to perform this step.
Old May 5, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

Originally posted by Dany
I just had that clutch TSB done on my car and the noise that was coming from original clutch is gone, but the clutch feels pretty crappy. When shifting and the clutch is fully pressed, I feel very strong vibration. It wasn't like that on original clutch.

It becomes even worse than you shifting in 3rd and up gears while moving.

Did anybody havr similar thing after getting that TSB done? I kinda regret doing that TSB now, I knew those morons at the dealer will mess something up. The winning sound was annoying on original clutch too, but this clutch pedal feel is even more annoying now. Oh well.
I had it done at the end of February. I have not had any problems since. I have put 7,000 miles on the new clutch and everything appears to be fine. I left it for a few days to make sure that it is done right. I was hesitant about having it done because they had to drop the tranny to get to the clutch disc to replace it. I am glad that I did.
Old May 5, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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I had it done at the end of February. I have not had any problems since. I have put 7,000 miles on the new clutch and everything appears to be fine. I left it for a few days to make sure that it is done right. I was hesitant about having it done because they had to drop the tranny to get to the clutch disc to replace it. I am glad that I did.
Yeah I am happy that I did it too to get rid of that noise, only thing I don't like is that after installing new clutch, now my pedal vibrates too much when shifting above 3k rpms. It wasn't like that when it was original clutch. Maybe I have to bring it to have them look at it agian.

Also, not sure why, but after getting that TSB fixed, my alignment is messed up. Do they have to touch any suspension parts in order to work on the clutch?
On the service paper it stated that they replaced some "Links" that got stripped. Not sure what this means.
Old May 5, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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Also, not sure why, but after getting that TSB fixed, my alignment is messed up. Do they have to touch any suspension parts in order to work on the clutch?
I'm not sure. The day after I picked up my car, I hit a pot hole and blew out 2 tires. I replaced all 4 and had an alignment done.
Old May 6, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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I'm not sure. The day after I picked up my car, I hit a pot hole and blew out 2 tires. I replaced all 4 and had an alignment done.
That sucks.
It just sucks how you bring in the car to get the clutch and rotors done and you leave with the car that pulls to the right now. And it was perfectly aligned before I brougth it there.

I like to stay away from dealers, but vibration from rotors and clutch noise were driving me nuts. Oh well, I guess I will have to do the alignment now.

Still don't know what were those "Links" that they replaced. That what is said on the service invoice: "Links stripped coming off." No idea what that means.
Old May 6, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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That sucks.
It just sucks how you bring in the car to get the clutch and rotors done and you leave with the car that pulls to the right now. And it was perfectly aligned before I brougth it there.

I like to stay away from dealers, but vibration from rotors and clutch noise were driving me nuts. Oh well, I guess I will have to do the alignment now.

Still don't know what were those "Links" that they replaced. That what is said on the service invoice: "Links stripped coming off." No idea what that means.
Maybe they meant Transverse Links. Did you get that recall done for the transverse links before?
If they replaced those, the car needs to be aligned after that was done. You might want to give them a call and find out...
Old May 6, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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Maybe they meant Transverse Links. Did you get that recall done for the transverse links before?
If they replaced those, the car needs to be aligned after that was done. You might want to give them a call and find out...
Yeah, I had that recall done a while ago.
You think they have to remove them to work on the clutch? Seems odd, but who knows.

What I did notice was, they removed my intake, which I found kinda odd. Maybe they needed access to the tranny from the inside the hood?

And another thing I noticed, which might not be true. I think that front sway bar's end links look new on it.
Old May 9, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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Yeah I am happy that I did it too to get rid of that noise, only thing I don't like is that after installing new clutch, now my pedal vibrates too much when shifting above 3k rpms. It wasn't like that when it was original clutch. Maybe I have to bring it to have them look at it agian.

Also, not sure why, but after getting that TSB fixed, my alignment is messed up. Do they have to touch any suspension parts in order to work on the clutch?
On the service paper it stated that they replaced some "Links" that got stripped. Not sure what this means.
They have to drop the engine and tranny to do the clutch TSB. To do that, they have to disconnect the tie rods on the steering. The can do this at the rack or they can do it at the steering knuckle. When mine was done, they disconnected at the rack so the alignment was still ok afterwards. Also, when the engine/tranny is dropped they have to pull the intake, disconnect the shift cable from the tranny and disconnect all wiring from the engine and tranny.
Old May 9, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about clutch TSB for 2002 6-speed.

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They have to drop the engine and tranny to do the clutch TSB. To do that, they have to disconnect the tie rods on the steering. The can do this at the rack or they can do it at the steering knuckle. When mine was done, they disconnected at the rack so the alignment was still ok afterwards. Also, when the engine/tranny is dropped they have to pull the intake, disconnect the shift cable from the tranny and disconnect all wiring from the engine and tranny.
Thanks that makes sense now. That is probaly why my alignment is messed up.
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