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Old 06-23-2003, 10:42 PM
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toppin' out at 130?

I have a 2000 5spd maxima with a CAI & a cattman y-pipe. I was on the freeway the other day and tried to see how fast I could get it up to. To my dissapointment, when I reached 130mph at about 5.3k rpm the clutch popped out of 5th gear. It does it every time too. Any suggestions on what the problem could be???? Because I know this car could definitely reach 140-145 redlining.
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Old 06-23-2003, 11:36 PM
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what do you mean the clutch pops out?

its either governed at 130mph or you got a problem with the clutch. i took mine all the way to 136mph where the governer kicked in, and it felt like i was hitting the rev limiter when it happened
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I mean the stick pops out of 5th gear and goes to neutral.
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wierd, I've never really heard of that happening with the transmission. Sometimes I would have problems like that with the Durango's Transfer case, but It was because it wouldnt be completely engaged and would pop out with a certian ammount of pressure. Now I just take the extra 1/10th of a second to make sure its in and I dont have a problem.


I cant see why it would pop out of gear, have you tried to hold it in gear?

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yah, try to put your hand on it and apply pressure when you get to that speed, see if it resists
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I've tried that.........doesn't work when i try to keep it in gear. any other suggestions?
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Originally posted by 2000mAxiMa
I've tried that.........doesn't work when i try to keep it in gear. any other suggestions?
Take it to the dealer and tell them it's only happens at 130mph and see what they say...
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hmm.. That's one weird problem. First time I ever heard of something like that happening.
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Take it to the dealer and tell them it's only happens at 130mph and see what they say...
LOL - i'd love to see the service rep's face when you complain about that problem: "well you see, it only happens when i'm maxing out at 130 mph........"

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LOL - i'd love to see the service rep's face when you complain about that problem: "well you see, it only happens when i'm maxing out at 130 mph........"

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HAHAHAH
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yah dealers seemed to be only concerned about things that happen at legal speeds....

my mechanic once told me that he had a guy come to him saying his 600SL would handle weird somewhere over 125. Turns out it was snow in the wheels or something. Mechanic took it to speed to see. Said normally he wouldnt but it was a good paying customer.
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I hit 142mph with my Automagic 2k Max!

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Originally posted by SilverChrome03


LOL - i'd love to see the service rep's face when you complain about that problem: "well you see, it only happens when i'm maxing out at 130 mph........"

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Yeah just tell him to hop in real quick, and tell him you got to see this Once you get back he'll have the look on his face, its so worth doing this just to see the look on his face
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Actually, I've heard of something like this before....

However, it's on SE-R's. Basically, people who always leave their hand on the shifter would eventually fatigue some part in the shifter/transmission, which would cause 5th gear pop out. You can find lots of info on this by searching.

I have no idea if that's possible on the Max, but why only 130.xx, I don't know.

Just thought I'd throw that in there, since it's not impossible that it's happening.
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prboably happens when he reaches certain RPMs in 5th
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138 in my auto-magic.
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Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
138 in my auto-magic.
What's up with the sig? You Alex's b!tch now?

143+ against a SS going well over 155mph.
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


What's up with the sig? You Alex's b!tch now?

143+ against a SS going well over 155mph.
I just pm'd steve asking about that too, Not in those exact words though I think he might be working at his place now but
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133 here (Probably 130 but 3mph speedo error)... I hit the governor hard too you should hear the sound, BOV goes off and everything. I want to buy a Apexi RSM so that I can remove the governor then we'll see what 5th can really do... 155-160

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Originally posted by h2kFrosty
133 here (Probably 130 but 3mph speedo error)... I hit the governor hard too you should hear the sound, BOV goes off and everything. I want to buy a Apexi RSM so that I can remove the governor then we'll see what 5th can really do... 155-160

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PLEASE do. However, you'll hit the rev-limiter BEFORE you see what a VQ30DEK-T can really do. We need an autoTRAGIC with it's tall gearing for that probably.
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Originally posted by IceY2K1



PLEASE do. However, you'll hit the rev-limiter BEFORE you see what a VQ30DEK-T can really do. We need an autoTRAGIC with it's tall gearing for that probably.
That would be Dixit... I'll get him to take a look at this thread.

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Dixit is the only brave one that had his turbo put on the crappy nissan automatic gearbox
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Originally posted by 2001SE
Dixit is the only brave one that had his turbo put on the crappy nissan automatic gearbox
Kev put down 300+whp with his SC and Don ran a 12.2 1/4-mile with his, so the autoTRAGIC can take it.

How long is the question...
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Re: Actually, I've heard of something like this before....

Originally posted by IceY2K1
However, it's on SE-R's. Basically, people who always leave their hand on the shifter would eventually fatigue some part in the shifter/transmission, which would cause 5th gear pop out. You can find lots of info on this by searching.

I have no idea if that's possible on the Max, but why only 130.xx, I don't know.

Just thought I'd throw that in there, since it's not impossible that it's happening.
Dont remind me...my 92 SE-R with 72K Original miles (all me dammit) has stupid 5th gear popout. its not from guys leaving their hands on the shifter, its a "typical" nissan problem. Shift fork designed wrong from (91-94) On the SE-Rs (95-97) problem was fixed that is... I need a 97 SE-R tranny!!!

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Don put a 12.2 on Kevs car? Shiet.......

Well I had mine upto 140 on the speedo last sunday when I was testing/tuning with my OBDII, I went past 3rd to see what the reading would show. Ive been pounding the car lately and still holding fairly well. Its still holding up pretty well. No issues.

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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Don put a 12.2 on Kevs car? Shiet.......

Well I had mine upto 140 on the speedo last sunday when I was testing/tuning with my OBDII, I went past 3rd to see what the reading would show. Ive been pounding the car lately and still holding fairly well. Its still holding up pretty well. No issues.

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NOOoooo....Kev and Don from Texas are two different autoTRAGIC owners.

What did the OBD-II say your MAX rpm was? I know that a stock SE is supposedly drag limited around 140ish, but with the extra HP you should be able to run 150+mph depending on your RPM with the auto gearing. I hit 143+mph, but it took FOOOOOREVER from 125-140mph.

Turbo VQ's don't have that problem.
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Yea, the run from 125-140ish takes forever NA.
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Well the Harrison OBDII data logging is somewhat "crap" if I put it in my own words because when I hit redline from 3500-6500 in 2nd gear it logged 3700 and then nothing more above it besides 2800. It has like a 2sec delay or something between the times it logs. I didnt see what the RPMs shows on the OBDII since I was watching the road. To hard to look at a 15" laptop that has a 1600x1200 res on it. But I know the RPMs are off. The needle shows damn near 6750 or so but the true rpm is like 6500.

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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Well the Harrison OBDII data logging is somewhat "crap" if I put it in my own words because when I hit redline from 3500-6500 in 2nd gear it logged 3700 and then nothing more above it besides 2800. It has like a 2sec delay or something between the times it logs. I didnt see what the RPMs shows on the OBDII since I was watching the road. To hard to look at a 15" laptop that has a 1600x1200 res on it. But I know the RPMs are off. The needle shows damn near 6750 or so but the true rpm is like 6500.

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Ok...the Alex Pepper OBD software I have records the "scan" and allows you to replay it later and it records the MAX/MIN values for each variable. No need to be looking at a laptop, while driving although I do sometimes while scanning.

Anyways, yeah the tach is LAAAAAZY as hell, especially in 1st/2nd. It just can't keep up. However, the speedometer is fast by ~3mph at 60, so you know Nissan is up to something.
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Originally posted by h2kFrosty
133 here (Probably 130 but 3mph speedo error)... I hit the governor hard too you should hear the sound, BOV goes off and everything. I want to buy a Apexi RSM so that I can remove the governor then we'll see what 5th can really do... 155-160

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Hehe I think I'd crap myself if I heard BOVs and saw it came from a Maxima!
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Has Ferhan not topped off over 170mph in his 4th gen auto its a 4th gen, but the gears are still the same are they not. I think he still had a little more to give but Ill have to run a simulation to see what mph it will topp off at...

Edit: well so far I know at 6600rpms in 4th gear the auto is at 186.2mph considering the wheel diameter is still 25.9" and just a side note, It took 1800hp on the sim to make the car hit that mph in a 1/4mile ET. btw the ET was 7.33
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Originally posted by Pir8 97


Hehe I think I'd crap myself if I heard BOVs and saw it came from a Maxima!
Yeah well a guy in an M3 found it hilarious as I passed by him with my BOV going off, he was laughing his *** off. And then we gave each other the thumbs up... I had 4 people in my car too lol... He had one.

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