maxgsxr1

we were doing about 80 and both floored it. he was in front of me at the start and i closed up the gap and hit the brakes before bumping him at about 110 mph. if we started out side by side i would have walked him slowly. i think it was supercharged too . it had stock dual chrome tips and looked brand new.

MxdOut97

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yes, the ss monte carlo and impala both have the same supercharded 3.8 liter engine ....w/ 240 hp and 280 lb-ft of torque

HitManSE

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I would hope it was S/C's the normal monte's are dogs. Ive taken one by several car lenghts be4. (lost count of how many, atleast 5-6 too far too tell) It basically needs the S/C to redeem itself, they are indeed alot slower then the GP's w/o a s/c

SilverChrome03

I don't think that the supercharged Montes and Impallas are out yet ? are they ? From what i had read, the're scheduled to be out sometime this fall.

The current version of the Monte SS has the 200 horsepower n/a 3.8. The Impalla has the same n/a 3.8 with 200 hp.

Bob

KLOOGY

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...those things are dogs..

02MaximaSE

I've taken alot of the 3.8L SS monte carlo's and impalas.

SilverChrome03

You are able to take "ALL" of them.

jeepik

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there is no supercharged monte carlo

that SS pos has 200 HP and is heavy as ****.... it is slower then a 3rd Gen Maxima GXE...

edit just read on chevy.com the supercharged montecarlo will come out in the fall of this year( and it has the GTP tuned down engine) it will be no competition to 5th gen Max

F23A4

...except when Monte guys upgrade that SC pulley, which makes them slightly quicker than VQ35 Maximas (at least it does with the GTP). But HEY!! It's still only a Chevy.

jeepik

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we're talking stock to stock here

i could start listing pages of cheap mods to get the max much faster too

F23A4

HOWEVER, forced induction almost ALWAYS has an advantage when it comes to performance modification responsiveness.

thrasher

3.8 S/C is easily modded, and will rape a pre 2k2, will handily beat a 2k2 Auto and even 6 sp. in some cases

00MaxSE

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What about a 2k 3.8 Impala vs me? 2k 5spd w/ intake, exhaust? My buddy with the Impala always wants to race me. I dunno, those 3.8's have alotta low end.

J.

mjg

Those things aren't even real montes, they are hunks of crap. I should know, i owned one (95 3.1 litre). A real monte SS, from the 80's with the right work would own up any maxima. My friends monte puts down over 450 to the wheels.

Jaws

The '80s Monte Carlos aren't real Monte Carlos. Yawn, 180hp 5L. POS.
Any car "with the right" work can own a stock car.

mjg

man please, are you comparing a FWD hunk of crap 3.8 litre monte carlo to the original car that was RWD v8 and although 180 HP stock, were some of the nastiest muscle cars of the 80s? You can't even say the same cars in the same sentence. I may lack some of the technical knowledge to really go one on with you here on why a monte carlo v8 from the 1980s utterly destroys any modern monte carlo in any shape and form. What are you going to say next, the GNX was a hunk of crap too? WHy don't you try racing one of those "stock".

02SEinStL

I would say don't even mention the GNX in the same sentence as ANY Monte...heck even a "regular" Grand National is in an altogether higher area of the food chain.
Those are just bad to tha bone Buicks, no 2 ways about it

02SEinStL

PS-
The 3800 is not a "hunk of crap"...in fact it has made the 10 Best Engines in the World list along with a certain powerplant with initials VQ...

thrasher

ummmmm...when the 3.8 s/c monte carlo comes out later this year, it will tear the "real muscle car of the 80's" monte carlo a new @sshole!

96_vqmax

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You will win for sure,those 3.8 are heavy as h**l,16.xx sec ET.

C430

If you are talking about the 190-HP 305ci, stock, a VQ30 would be a close race, he has more torque, you have the weight advantage and the rev advantage - if you do it right.

If it was "worked," well you can do lotsa mods to a V-8 pushrod engine, and chevy owners do tend to cheat in that direction. He could have 400-500 HP, and you wouldn't know it until you lost. Edelbrock sells a 400 hp small block crate motor that can be slipped into the frame easily. More rubber on the road with RWD, also, for the launch.

F23A4

I guess someone had to give GM some credit for repeatedly resurrecting a motor that should been declared deceased two decades ago.

vqman

exactly...Nissan's VQ made Wards in it's first year of production, and its been there every year since. But it took GM 30 years to get the 3800 into Wards...AHAHHAA
and I doubt it stays on the list for long.




on another note, the Supercharged SS Monte Carlos ARE NOT OUT YET.

that race was against a normally aspirated 3800....unless the guy dropped some serious cash into his Monte...(what a waste of money)

-vq

mjg

let's see a boosted 3.8 monte versus a 1988 maxima with just a touch of work done, (after all, an s/c is a mod, if not a factory mod) In fact, i'd like you to go to any monte forum and blast such a foolish, ignorant comment, and see how far you get.

vandy786

Who or what is a "Wards"?

vqman

"Wards" is this magazine that gives awards for different things, like the "10 Best Engines" The VQ engine has made the list every year its been produced in the states...or just about every year.

-vq

SilverChrome03

What does his comment RE: 80s Monte have to do with a 1988 Maxima ?

Bob

thrasher

dude, you don't know what the h*ll you're talking about...just because a car has less displacement and FWD doesn't make it automaticaly slower than a big motor RWD from 20 years ago. my car, with 3.5 liters, would rape a whole lot of big name muscle cars. again, a 3.8 s/c monte carlo, which will get to 60 somewhere around 6.3-6.6 seconds, will destroy a 180 HP 5 liter 80's monte. throw on new pulleys, and we're talking a seriously fast car, for very cheap. and yes, a lightly modded s/c monte will smoke a lightly modded '98 max.

02SEinStL

My buddy had an '88 Monte SS for years, and it was a DOG with the stock 4BB 5.0 "HO". I bet an '85 Maxima could tame it
Then again, after he slapped in a well-worked 5.7 it was a terrifying ride

HitManSE

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With a 406 crate engine and a built tranny accompanied by a 200shot, its gonna be a monte haul @ss right into the 9's.....

maximo-SE

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monte carlos are chump change compared to a Ford Lightning... Omg those things are freakin FAST!!!! NAsty handle.

MxdOut97

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yea true, but this thread isnt about those
and besides they have boosted v-8's, of course they are much faster than a monte carlo

mjg

btw just to correct myself here, hahaha, i ment monte not maxima : ]