2k 5spd vs. 2002-2003 auto.....
07-01-2003, 12:05 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 702
2k 5spd vs. 2002-2003 auto.....
Ok, I know this has been brought up, but I want to take an informal poll.
Do you think a 2k 5 speed, with a y-pipe and modded intake, could beat a totally stock 2002-2003 auto?
This kind of intrigues me. If you can get 20 extra horses on the 5 speed with those mods, I would think this would be a close one.
A 255 hp at the crank auto vs. 240 hp at the crank 5 speed should be a good race.
Thoughts?
Do you think a 2k 5 speed, with a y-pipe and modded intake, could beat a totally stock 2002-2003 auto?
This kind of intrigues me. If you can get 20 extra horses on the 5 speed with those mods, I would think this would be a close one.
A 255 hp at the crank auto vs. 240 hp at the crank 5 speed should be a good race.
Thoughts?
07-01-2003, 01:23 PM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,145
its not the hp...why dont people understand that. its the torque. VQ35 makes about 270 torque to crank while the VQ30DE-k only makes about 215.
VQ35 for the maxima only has about 240hp.
i am pretty sure it will be a tie. but look what the 5sp has to do in order to stay with the 2k2 auto. just shows you the power of the 3.5
VQ35 for the maxima only has about 240hp.
i am pretty sure it will be a tie. but look what the 5sp has to do in order to stay with the 2k2 auto. just shows you the power of the 3.5
![[maxi-overdose]'s Avatar](https://maxima.org/forums/customavatars/avatar1856_1.gif){kind=avatar}
07-01-2003, 02:51 PM
#8
Supporting Maxima.org Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,042
Originally posted by 2001SE
its not the hp...why dont people understand that. its the torque. VQ35 makes about 270 torque to crank while the VQ30DE-k only makes about 215.
VQ35 for the maxima only has about 240hp.
i am pretty sure it will be a tie. but look what the 5sp has to do in order to stay with the 2k2 auto. just shows you the power of the 3.5
its not the hp...why dont people understand that. its the torque. VQ35 makes about 270 torque to crank while the VQ30DE-k only makes about 215.
VQ35 for the maxima only has about 240hp.
i am pretty sure it will be a tie. but look what the 5sp has to do in order to stay with the 2k2 auto. just shows you the power of the 3.5
So, if it's a race off the line it's probably the 3.5 (agree that it's so close it comes down to the launch though). From a roll? Could be the 2k1 with those mods.
Regarding the launch (different post), favoring one car over another based on possible rpm at start isn't really a valid comparison. There's no need to launch a 2k3 at more than 1,500 (or 1,200, for that matter) because it's already hard to hook up the tires with so much torque and FWD. And I'd guess the 3.5 still generates more torque at that rpm than the 3.0 at 2,000...?
07-01-2003, 03:02 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 534
Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
I torque brake at 1800 RPM
I torque brake at 1800 RPM
07-01-2003, 03:47 PM
#14
Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
3.5 wins all day long....cant beat TORQUE, and oh yeah, HP!
3.5 wins all day long....cant beat TORQUE, and oh yeah, HP!
to the stick- it can be driven more agressively-specially modded-clutch wins- and yeah I have a 3.5
---6 speed
07-01-2003, 05:23 PM
#20
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Posts: 3,751
Originally posted by 2kseman
i say race one in question and find out yourself.............i did, i walked away from a 2k2 auto.....however, i only began to pull ahead from middle of second gear....imo, depends on the driver and how the 2k is modded.
i say race one in question and find out yourself.............i did, i walked away from a 2k2 auto.....however, i only began to pull ahead from middle of second gear....imo, depends on the driver and how the 2k is modded.
07-02-2003, 05:23 PM
#23
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Posts: 3,751
Originally posted by F23A4
I'm game to run a Y2k-2k1 Max 5speed.
Seriously though, I've yet to run a VQ30 5th gen of any type. But I have run a few 4th gen 5speeds and smoked them pretty handily.
Peace.
I'm game to run a Y2k-2k1 Max 5speed.
Seriously though, I've yet to run a VQ30 5th gen of any type. But I have run a few 4th gen 5speeds and smoked them pretty handily.Peace.
07-02-2003, 05:29 PM
#24
... i got taken on by a 5spd..not by much...i got an auto...he took me off the launch... i kept spinning..too much tque... he didn't leave me though.... my nose stayed by his door... we got to the on ramp for the highway...and I stopped at 130mph... and he was still going... go figure..
07-02-2003, 07:28 PM
#25
Spelled with a I not a L for Iilac. Prounced Ii-eee-ack.
iTrader: (65)
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Central Valley, California
Posts: 2,437
The 3.0L vq is no slouch. Here is a proof that it comes down to drivers.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=185464
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=185464
07-02-2003, 08:42 PM
#26
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 702
Originally posted by Iilac
The 3.0L vq is no slouch. Here is a proof that it comes down to drivers.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=185464
The 3.0L vq is no slouch. Here is a proof that it comes down to drivers.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=185464
07-02-2003, 09:01 PM
#27
Member
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 89
With the appropriate mods, I'm not surprized that a 3.0 VQ can take a 2002-2003, although I think the mods would need to be significant.
Stock vs. stock I don't think it would be much of a contest (between a 5-speed 3.0L and an auto 3.5L). A properly driven stick should get off the line a little harder but I'd imagine that the 3.5L would begin to walk by thereafter.
I had a 98 SE 5-speed (which I don't think is too much slower than a 2000 or 2001) and, while it was quick, it does not pull like the my 2003 auto.
The 3.0L VQ did, however, feel much smoother in operation than the 3.5L. Even at five years old, the motor felt brand new.
Stock vs. stock I don't think it would be much of a contest (between a 5-speed 3.0L and an auto 3.5L). A properly driven stick should get off the line a little harder but I'd imagine that the 3.5L would begin to walk by thereafter.
I had a 98 SE 5-speed (which I don't think is too much slower than a 2000 or 2001) and, while it was quick, it does not pull like the my 2003 auto.
The 3.0L VQ did, however, feel much smoother in operation than the 3.5L. Even at five years old, the motor felt brand new.
07-03-2003, 08:38 AM
#28
Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 278
Originally posted by Virus
14.8 seems to be the average 1/4 on the auto here.
14.8 seems to be the average 1/4 on the auto here.
) that would run high 14s all day long (these have the Cobra's DOHC 32V 4.6). Heck that car would bark 2nd and slide sideways if you really had your boot in it .Point is, my Max feels every bit as strong as that car did...in fact I still have the # of the guy who bought it from me...wonder if he'd wanna run em?
07-03-2003, 11:13 AM
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,720
Originally posted by Evan
The 3.0L VQ did, however, feel much smoother in operation than the 3.5L. Even at five years old, the motor felt brand new.
The 3.0L VQ did, however, feel much smoother in operation than the 3.5L. Even at five years old, the motor felt brand new.
07-03-2003, 01:50 PM
#31
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Posts: 3,751
Originally posted by F23A4
That says alot for the VQ30 because my VQ35 is easily the smoothest engine of any car I've EVER owned.
That says alot for the VQ30 because my VQ35 is easily the smoothest engine of any car I've EVER owned.
07-03-2003, 02:33 PM
#32
Donating Maxima.org Member
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 734
Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
I agree with Evan the 3.0 is smoother than the 3.5 and even several publications have noted/felt that as well.
I agree with Evan the 3.0 is smoother than the 3.5 and even several publications have noted/felt that as well.
07-03-2003, 03:22 PM
#33
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Posts: 3,751
Originally posted by ChillWill2000
Ive read the same. I dont remember if it was car and driver or what but thet were talking about how the 3.5 lost some of that super smooth rev . but they said its still one ot the best v6 ever.
Ive read the same. I dont remember if it was car and driver or what but thet were talking about how the 3.5 lost some of that super smooth rev . but they said its still one ot the best v6 ever.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Fakie J Farkerton
4th Generation Classifieds (1995-1999)
1
10-14-2015 06:25 PM