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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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Who trimmed their bumpstops using Teins?

I haven't done it but their pamphlet inside the box says to trim it 1.3". Who's done it?
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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I've heard you hould always trim the bump stops as you can "bottom out" and do some major damage to your struts.
or something like that
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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Can I trim my bumpstops without removing my springs?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Mine wasnt cut... so far its adequate. Sorta bouncy.
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by maximadave
Can I trim my bumpstops without removing my springs?
No you cant, they are actually a part of your dust booth. I havnt done mine, it just increases wheel travel actually more like returns overall wheel travel back to stock specs but 90% of the time you dont need that extra 1" you need to have the strut assembly completly apart to trim it. I tried to do mine with a air grinder at first and it looked like some1 peeled out on my shirt, it smelled like crap and there was blue smoke everywere
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Thanks for the replies....

I just dont want to bend a strut mount or something
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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They need to be cut, otherwise you'll be riding on them all the damn time, which is, well, unpleasant to say the least. You'll need to take it apart again to get at them easily. I haven't seen an easier way if you didn't do it in the first place.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Does this only apply to aftermarket springs with stock struts/shocks or does it apply as well to a full-aftermarket suspension package?
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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cant we just buy smaller bumpstops?

that way we can retain our stockers?

if so anyone know who makes them? part #?
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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When I Installed my GR-2's and Teins I didn't cut the bump stops and the ride was really harsh and bouncy. The struts ride on the bumpstops if you don't cut them. I cut about a inch off the front last week and it was a night and day difference. The ride is awesome and no where near as bouncy. Only downfall is before I cut the bumpstops my drop was perfectly even, now the front is a little bit lower then the back. Not to noticable though.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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I didn't cut mine. People say that the car looks like a Honda bouncing all over the place, but the ride inside is smooth as can be for that low of a drop. I don't mind removing them all over again, but a picture of a before and after would be nice to use as a reference.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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i have no idea if mines were cut, I just left the springs at the shop and when my tokiko's were in i just had them installed....the ride is kinda harsh, smooth streets are fine but when i go down a bumpy road any little bump is fealt....i dont know if its the combination sprng and shock or my bump stop isn't cut
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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shave a coil off each bumpstop... If you are worried about returning to a stock setup, then contact Dave Burnette and see what the OEM bumpstops cost... Not cutting the bumpstops with a low drop may most likely give you a bumpy ride
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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i took a chunk off of my bumpstops
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Will I do any damage to my suspension if I don't?
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Woah woah. Where are the bump stops. If they are the top of the strut boot that will not affect the height at all.

I just finished pulling my strut assembly apart. The strut boot consists of the accordian section below with thick rubber at the top. I could see that if you had Teins cutting them would probably make a big difference in ride quality over bumps, but it will not affect the ride height (unless you are measuring the distance when the car is bottoming out at 35mph).
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Originally posted by Lumbee1
Woah woah. Where are the bump stops. If they are the top of the strut boot that will not affect the height at all.

I just finished pulling my strut assembly apart. The strut boot consists of the accordian section below with thick rubber at the top. I could see that if you had Teins cutting them would probably make a big difference in ride quality over bumps, but it will not affect the ride height (unless you are measuring the distance when the car is bottoming out at 35mph).

It kinda makes sense that if you're riding on the stops, cutting them could slightly lower the car more. It also allows the suspension to travel the extra distance you just removed from the previously (and relatively solid) bump stops. Tein says they must be cut, and they say so for very good reason. Your car WILL NOT ride as is should unless you cut the stops 1.0" in the front and 1.3" in the rear. That is a fact...
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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OK people, time to educate...
To those of you who think your riding on the bumpstops
A bumpstop does exactly what it sounds like, its a bumpstop. It absorbes the last bit of impact from a strong hit, which would require quite a bit of suspension travel to acheive. The bump stops are located at the top, just below the strut mount once completly assembled. You have atleast 4" of wheel travel be4 you even touch the bump stop so it is impossible to be riding on them, your wheels would be tucked if this were the case and I seriously doubt they do that unless you got bags on your ride. All cutting the bumpstop will do is increase wheel travel back to what stock wheel travel was.
Your car will be more bouncy if and only IF you hit a hard bump that causes the suspension to compress all the way. Im confident enough to say that im sure most of you dont try to hit dips of speed bumps that you are aware of at WOT and haul @ss over them. Now that would cause you suspension to compress all the way and cause you to hit the bumpstop and it will bounce harder off the stop then normal, but regardless even if you had 100% wheel travel rather then 80-85% its still gonna hit pretty damn hard if you do this. Make any sense?

Dave: it wont damage the suspension if you do or do not this.

Nissan2k2specV: You can cut your stock ones, but you can also get a set of stops that are shorter from tirerack.com is what ive heard.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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tire rack huh??
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by ToasterMax
tire rack huh??
That is what I have "heard" its the KYB brand, I think you might want too look for the dust booths, its basically a part of the dust booth so if you find that, you found the stops.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 04:56 AM
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Cut mine!

Just something to read, Bump stops...

I figure if Tein took the R&D time to determine the amount of bump stop to trim, it's for a reason.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 06:01 AM
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OK people, time to educate...
To those of you who think your riding on the bumpstops
A bumpstop does exactly what it sounds like, its a bumpstop. It absorbes the last bit of impact from a strong hit, which would require quite a bit of suspension travel to acheive. The bump stops are located at the top, just below the strut mount once completly assembled. You have atleast 4" of wheel travel be4 you even touch the bump stop so it is impossible to be riding on them, your wheels would be tucked if this were the case and I seriously doubt they do that unless you got bags on your ride. All cutting the bumpstop will do is increase wheel travel back to what stock wheel travel was.
Your car will be more bouncy if and only IF you hit a hard bump that causes the suspension to compress all the way. Im confident enough to say that im sure most of you dont try to hit dips of speed bumps that you are aware of at WOT and haul @ss over them. Now that would cause you suspension to compress all the way and cause you to hit the bumpstop and it will bounce harder off the stop then normal, but regardless even if you had 100% wheel travel rather then 80-85% its still gonna hit pretty damn hard if you do this. Make any sense?

Dave: it wont damage the suspension if you do or do not this.

Nissan2k2specV: You can cut your stock ones, but you can also get a set of stops that are shorter from tirerack.com is what ive heard.
Exactly what I was thinking. Thank you for the clarification for others.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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OK people, time to educate...
To those of you who think your riding on the bumpstops
A bumpstop does exactly what it sounds like, its a bumpstop. It absorbes the last bit of impact from a strong hit, which would require quite a bit of suspension travel to acheive. The bump stops are located at the top, just below the strut mount once completly assembled. You have atleast 4" of wheel travel be4 you even touch the bump stop so it is impossible to be riding on them, your wheels would be tucked if this were the case and I seriously doubt they do that unless you got bags on your ride. All cutting the bumpstop will do is increase wheel travel back to what stock wheel travel was.

I do agree that there is at least 4" of travel between the bumpstop and strut "BEFORE YOU INSTALL IT ON THE CAR". Once the spring is compressed by the weight of the car, my dustcover/bumpstop was totally compressed and was riding on the strut. That's why my ride was so bouncy. Once I cut and inch off the ride is nice and smooth and NO bouncing.
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Originally posted by HitManSE

Dave: it wont damage the suspension if you do or do not this.

Thanks...
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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So if I trim the bump stops, will that take away my "Honda" looking ride in the back? The car doesn't RIDE like a Honda by any means, but it definitely looks like it does from the rear.
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by 02MAXSE



I do agree that there is at least 4" of travel between the bumpstop and strut "BEFORE YOU INSTALL IT ON THE CAR". Once the spring is compressed by the weight of the car, my dustcover/bumpstop was totally compressed and was riding on the strut. That's why my ride was so bouncy. Once I cut and inch off the ride is nice and smooth and NO bouncing.
Be4 install there is acutally 8" of travel in the strut if you REALLY want to get specific with me. Im not gonna sit here and try to convince you whats what, I dont see anything left out in my explination so I dont get what your not understanding. If you think a car rides on the stop then hell belive whatever makes you feel is right, bottom line is NO its does not... I dont know what else to say I dont know if you think the entire dustbooth/bumpstop is a bumpstop or what but if thats what your thinking its just that think peice of rubber at the top of the dust booth that actually meets in the strut mount once assembled. IF for some reason your car was riding on the stops you'd be pretty low man, im talking airbag like, scraping the ground low. In order for to touch the bumpstop your spring would basically have to bind (compress all the way, or in this car 85-90% be4 it touches)

MaxSE03: Ofcourse its for a reason, its to make sure you still have 100% suspension travel still intact, it WILL be bouncy if you actally have the spring compressing almost all the way all the time.

If you guys have the suspension apart and/or installing springs/struts I still say cut the stop. Im just trying to say that not cutting them wont kill your ride as bad as some will lead you to belive, it will "slightly" improve if you have 100% travel but I still say its a bit exaggerated by many.

Studman: If you dont feel comfortable with the ride and feel this will fix it, by all means take it apart and cut it. Its not as big of an operation as some might think, then again ive done it too many times.
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John is a pro at suspensions.. (hitman).. I trust his knowledge !
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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so how much should i cut off?
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by ToasterMax
so how much should i cut off?
You know ive looked for the tech sheet but cant find it, Quicksilver stated F:1.0/R:1.3 but thats like the whole bump stop or atleast 75+% of it.
Have you gotten your struts yet, or are you still bouncin around all over the place?
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Be4 install there is acutally 8" of travel in the strut if you REALLY want to get specific with me. Im not gonna sit here and try to convince you whats what, I dont see anything left out in my explination so I dont get what your not understanding. If you think a car rides on the stop then hell belive whatever makes you feel is right, bottom line is NO its does not... I dont know what else to say I dont know if you think the entire dustbooth/bumpstop is a bumpstop or what but if thats what your thinking its just that think peice of rubber at the top of the dust booth that actually meets in the strut mount once assembled. IF for some reason your car was riding on the stops you'd be pretty low man, im talking airbag like, scraping the ground low. In order for to touch the bumpstop your spring would basically have to bind (compress all the way, or in this car 85-90% be4 it touches)
Maybe your right, I just know what I saw and felt when I looked in my wheel well. It looked/felt to me that the top of the strut was right on the bump stop. Once I cut an inch off the bumpstop the front dropped a little less then 1/2 inch, why is this??? If it wasn't riding on the bumpstop in the first place then I don't see why it dropped.
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Maybe your right, I just know what I saw and felt when I looked in my wheel well. It looked/felt to me that the top of the strut was right on the bump stop. Once I cut an inch off the bumpstop the front dropped a little less then 1/2 inch, why is this??? If it wasn't riding on the bumpstop in the first place then I don't see why it dropped.
Thats weird but all I can say is From the middle of your fender to the ground, how many inches do you have. Mine is at 25.25" in the front and 25.5" in the rear and I didnt cut my stops, when I have time ill probably do it but it doesnt bother me to be honest with you but my drop is lower then most maxs ive seen unless the have coilovers or bags. Ill trim mine at one point or another but I still dont think it will make much of a diff in ride height.
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Originally posted by HitManSE

From the middle of your fender to the ground, how many inches do you have.
The front is about 25.5" and the back is a little under 26". Before I cut the front bumstops they were about the same.
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The front is about 25.5" and the back is a little under 26". Before I cut the front bumstops they were about the same.
These Tein springs are as weird as they are sweet, thats weird. I had an even more odd situation with mine, get a load of this when I 1st installed mine the fronts were at 25" and the rear was at 25.25" and I measured it with the same tape measure as I got the 25.25/25.5 measurements and in exactly the same spot and it was 100% level groud as well. It actually settled "UP" after a little while Truley weird Ive heard of spring getting lower but never this. Ive had mine on for appx 6K miles.
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MAXSPEED trimming?

Do you also have to trim with MAXSPEED springs?

Roger
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