View Poll Results: Which would you buy?
2k1 AE
36
25.90%
2k2 SE
103
74.10%
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2k1 AE or 2k2 SE?
10-09-2003, 10:14 AM
#41
yeah but when you boost the 4-gen, you are into another territory. This comparision is also for cars with similar reliabilities. Boost a 4-gen and you might was well have an extra VQ30 in the garage. Because you KNOW popping the motor is a distinct possibilty. What would a 4-gen SC on 4-5psi give you? 60hp? So 190 + 60 is 250hp. Just about what a stock 2k2+ puts out with the factory warranty intact.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I agree if they are the same price, might as well get the newer car. Even if it's just for the warranty and less wear.
I'm more coming from my car anyways vs. a 2K2. I've got a friend with a 350z and yes it's ok fast, but honestly NOT enough. However, I have rode in a boosted 4th gen. that's maybe pushing 6-7psi and untuned and *THAT* was FAAAAAAST! I'd take the power of a boosted 4th gen, hell 3rd gen. even, over a 2K-2K3(wouldn't consider a 2K4 EVER!), if I was only concerned about having more power.
I'm more coming from my car anyways vs. a 2K2. I've got a friend with a 350z and yes it's ok fast, but honestly NOT enough. However, I have rode in a boosted 4th gen. that's maybe pushing 6-7psi and untuned and *THAT* was FAAAAAAST! I'd take the power of a boosted 4th gen, hell 3rd gen. even, over a 2K-2K3(wouldn't consider a 2K4 EVER!), if I was only concerned about having more power.
10-09-2003, 10:26 AM
#43
Agreed about the different level....but like I said...that's IF I cared about having more power then a 2K-2K1 has stock. Seriously, I'm perfectly happy with my 2K1 vs. my friends 350z, so why would I care about a 2K2?
A VQ with <10psi is perfectly reliable. It's the owners and the dumb things they do that make them go *BOOM*. People go for a turbo kit and then fail to finish all the small details, ie Kevs' lack of a FP gauge, before they start cranking up the boost.
A VQ with <10psi is perfectly reliable. It's the owners and the dumb things they do that make them go *BOOM*. People go for a turbo kit and then fail to finish all the small details, ie Kevs' lack of a FP gauge, before they start cranking up the boost.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
yeah but when you boost the 4-gen, you are into another territory. This comparision is also for cars with similar reliabilities. Boost a 4-gen and you might was well have an extra VQ30 in the garage. Because you KNOW popping the motor is a distinct possibilty. What would a 4-gen SC on 4-5psi give you? 60hp? So 190 + 60 is 250hp. Just about what a stock 2k2+ puts out with the factory warranty intact.
10-09-2003, 10:36 AM
#45
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on everything u sed IceY2K1 Especially if you dont have alot of cash for mods. i only got my intake and clears but everyone thinks my ride is completely pimped out cuz the titanium polished 17's and my AE body kit. Not to mention the perforated leather look sik and all the other cool little things. door sills, floor mats, AE emblem, & even the Key is sik.
Not to mention my 5spd AE has taken my boys auto '02 the one time we ran em. maybe i got a betta jump or he drives like miss daisy, i dont know, but we were going at it and i came out on top.
No love lost here for the '02s and '03s, im jus love my AE
10-09-2003, 10:36 AM
#46
Trust me Wanger, once you get boost, the urge to turn up the screw is worse than the need for sex. And a boosted 10psi 4-gen is nowhere near the reliability of a 2k or 2k2+ na. Just the nature of the animal. Anytime you add 100hp or 50% more hp to an engine w/o buidling it, you gotta play with it with kid gloves man.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Agreed about the different level....but like I said...that's IF I cared about having more power then a 2K-2K1 has stock. Seriously, I'm perfectly happy with my 2K1 vs. my friends 350z, so why would I care about a 2K2?
A VQ with <10psi is perfectly reliable. It's the owners and the dumb things they do that make them go *BOOM*. People go for a turbo kit and then fail to finish all the small details, ie Kevs' lack of a FP gauge, before they start cranking up the boost.
A VQ with <10psi is perfectly reliable. It's the owners and the dumb things they do that make them go *BOOM*. People go for a turbo kit and then fail to finish all the small details, ie Kevs' lack of a FP gauge, before they start cranking up the boost.
10-09-2003, 10:53 AM
#47
I respectfully disagree.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Trust me Wanger, once you get boost, the urge to turn up the screw is worse than the need for sex. And a boosted 10psi 4-gen is nowhere near the reliability of a 2k or 2k2+ na. Just the nature of the animal. Anytime you add 100hp or 50% more hp to an engine w/o buidling it, you gotta play with it with kid gloves man.
10-09-2003, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
true but their are alot of subtle things that make the 02+ more appealing like; like the trip computer,available memory seats and in dash 6 disc and heated wheel, nicer looking seats the remote window down feature, better sunroof controls, and I prefer the look of the gated shifter. Once you driven a 3.5 to the 3.0 especially the automatic comparison you wouldnt want to go back.
As for the 3.5 vs 3.0, that's really only important if you want the performance "edge" of the VQ35. In most driving situations (esp here in NJ), a 3.0 auto has sufficient power move out. But like I stated, unless you want that 'upper 14 sec ET capability', the AE will do the job fine.
Peace.
Peace.
10-09-2003, 11:00 AM
#49
I'll just ask you this. If you owned a Nissan dealership, you sold me a 10psi boosted turbo 4-th/5-th gen that was brand new, would you extend me a full warranty?
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I respectfully disagree.
10-09-2003, 11:18 AM
#50
No...I know what you're saying Jeff. NA cars have fewer parts to fail, so of course it's less likely to have problems.
I just don't consider minor problems as unreliable, unreliable is catastrophic failure, ie blowing/replacing the engine.
I just don't consider minor problems as unreliable, unreliable is catastrophic failure, ie blowing/replacing the engine.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I'll just ask you this. If you owned a Nissan dealership, you sold me a 10psi boosted turbo 4-th/5-th gen that was brand new, would you extend me a full warranty?
10-09-2003, 11:35 AM
#52
I'm not interested in exploring how much the engine can handle.
IMHO, the time & money spent adding a turbo are enough to offset any savings. Besides, if I want a car with Turbo I'll get a WRX.
To each their own I guess.
IMHO, the time & money spent adding a turbo are enough to offset any savings. Besides, if I want a car with Turbo I'll get a WRX.
To each their own I guess.
10-09-2003, 01:22 PM
#53
Exactly my point.
IF I cared about 245 vs. 222 hp difference, I wouldn't even buy a Nissan, I'd get a TL-S.
IF I cared about 245 vs. 222 hp difference, I wouldn't even buy a Nissan, I'd get a TL-S.
Originally Posted by CoolMax
I'm not interested in exploring how much the engine can handle.
IMHO, the time & money spent adding a turbo are enough to offset any savings. Besides, if I want a car with Turbo I'll get a WRX.
To each their own I guess.
IMHO, the time & money spent adding a turbo are enough to offset any savings. Besides, if I want a car with Turbo I'll get a WRX.
To each their own I guess.
10-09-2003, 02:11 PM
#60
Originally Posted by ICULookN
I agree, I was a day away from buying a black 2k1 AE when I found out that for few thousand more I could get a brand new 2K2. As much as I love my 2k2, I love the look of the AE better. I love the body kit and the smoked headlights. Thats why I'm working as hard as I can to have Maxxtuning make the AE/Stillen look-a-like lip for us 2k2/3's. Subtle aggressiveness.
Keep me posted on the aero kit.
10-09-2003, 03:34 PM
#62
Instead of bickering about 3.5 vs 3.0 and HID versus whatever... just drive both of them and find out which one suits you the best in terms of budget, style of driving, and traffic (if you even ever have the chance to go ahead and floor a 3.5). Im happy with my 3.0
TO EACH MAN, HIS OWN OPINION, HIS OWN MAXIMA
TO EACH MAN, HIS OWN OPINION, HIS OWN MAXIMA
10-09-2003, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
As for the first part, the same can be said (re: subtle touches) about the AE; for instance, it has a MUCH nicer OEM body kit than my 2K2. As far as the gated shifter, IMO it doesnt mean much if its not SS (i.e.: Acura TL). I've been asked numerous times if its "sequential shift". But I will concede that the auto-feature of my sunroof beats the "buttonholding" I have to do in order to open the sunroof on my Quest.
As for the 3.5 vs 3.0, that's really only important if you want the performance "edge" of the VQ35. In most driving situations (esp here in NJ), a 3.0 auto has sufficient power move out. But like I stated, unless you want that 'upper 14 sec ET capability', the AE will do the job fine.
Peace.
Peace.
As for the 3.5 vs 3.0, that's really only important if you want the performance "edge" of the VQ35. In most driving situations (esp here in NJ), a 3.0 auto has sufficient power move out. But like I stated, unless you want that 'upper 14 sec ET capability', the AE will do the job fine.
Peace.
Peace.
10-09-2003, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChromeSE5
Instead of bickering about 3.5 vs 3.0 and HID versus whatever... just drive both of them and find out which one suits you the best in terms of budget, style of driving, and traffic (if you even ever have the chance to go ahead and floor a 3.5). Im happy with my 3.0
TO EACH MAN, HIS OWN OPINION, HIS OWN MAXIMA
TO EACH MAN, HIS OWN OPINION, HIS OWN MAXIMA
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10-09-2003, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Naw. If you got one in 00' or 01' w/o the knowledge or $ to buy a 3.5vq maxima, that's fine. But now that 3.5 maximas are available used and now that we know how powerful they are, it's different.
If one was to consider either at this present time, that is what I would do. Just my IMHO. Neither right or wrong.
Plus Coolmax has been contemplating a car purchase for 2 eons now.
If one was to consider either at this present time, that is what I would do. Just my IMHO. Neither right or wrong.
Plus Coolmax has been contemplating a car purchase for 2 eons now.
why? I had one bro...2000 gls v6 fully loaded...car definitely had quirks tho.....traded it in on an 02 altima, which left for my 03 max
10-10-2003, 11:04 AM
#71
Originally Posted by CoolMax
Which would you buy?
The AE is "special" but the 2k2 has the 3.5L & HIDs.
The AE is "special" but the 2k2 has the 3.5L & HIDs.
This is like a no-brainer man!
The 02 SE will spank up 01 AE up and down the street.
I know they tout the AE version as having 5 more hp than the standard, but the car is no faster, it may actually be slower. With all the added fairings (which look lame IMHO) adding weight and adding aerodynamic drag, I'm sure the AE version needed that extra 5 hp just to perform as well as the standard 01 SE.
Even if you have to spend two grand more, the 02 SE is the way to go.
You get the 3.5 liter, need anyone say more?
then get the '02. I'm not sure what I'd do if I were you. They've both got pros and cons.
10-11-2003, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
true but their are alot of subtle things that make the 02+ more appealing like; like the trip computer,available memory seats and in dash 6 disc and heated wheel, nicer looking seats the remote window down feature, better sunroof controls, and I prefer the look of the gated shifter. Once you driven a 3.5 to the 3.0 especially the automatic comparison you wouldnt want to go back.
Remote window down??
This is news to me.
How does that work - is it with the stock keyless entry remote?
10-11-2003, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 02SEinStL
Say what?
Remote window down??
This is news to me.
How does that work - is it with the stock keyless entry remote?
Remote window down??
This is news to me.
How does that work - is it with the stock keyless entry remote?