Sunoco Race Gas 100 Octane!!
10-14-2003 | 01:09 PM
#1
Sunoco Race Gas 100 Octane!!
So I am driving today and I am close to empty in the Max. I remember reading a thread on gas for the max and it was Sunoco 94 octane. Sunoco 94 Octane made the Max run great, great exceleration through all gears!! So today I am driving down Route 9 in Ocean County by Route 88 and see a Sunoco. I pull in and to my surprise they have something I have never seen. Sunoco Race Gas, 100 Octane. So I put $20.00 of 94 Octane in my car and then throw $10.00 of the 100 Octane to finish it off. The 100 Octane is $4.99 a gallon. So has anyone ever used this gas and how did it effect your Max's Performance.
10-14-2003 | 01:13 PM
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i wish you did not put the 94 octane in there and just put 3 gallons of 100 octane. you could of used it up f*** around and then ome back for 94. that would of been cool to know how much the computer would adjust or if it would of just made the car fast as hell.
10-14-2003 | 01:20 PM
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you might as well have thrown that $10 away
10-14-2003 | 01:28 PM
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Why?
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
you might as well have thrown that $10 away
10-14-2003 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hct67
Why would it be throwing $10 away. If anything, My Max will be getting a good 94 octane plus the 2 gallons of 100 octane. Can't see how thats throwing it away, if anything it will clean up everything and burn a little better. Would rather put 2 gallons of the 100 in each and everytime I fill up. I believe its better then throwing any on the shelf additive from a auto store into the gas which Nissan says shouldn't be done!!!!!
10-14-2003 | 02:18 PM
#8
Won't using such a high octane end up burning your injectors?
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10-14-2003 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
It's not like it's 'go juice'.
Add some stickers dude, they will add more HP than the 100 octane will.
There are tons of threads about octane, just search.
I am actually surprised that more places aren't offering high octane gas to sell to all the people who think it's 'go juice.' If I owned a gas station, I would have hooked up a 100 octane pump long ago and watch the cash roll in.
10-14-2003 | 02:31 PM
#10
Originally Posted by Kojiro_FtT
Isn't it a near cousin of NAWZ?!?!
Add some stickers dude, they will add more HP than the 100 octane will.
There are tons of threads about octane, just search.
I am actually surprised that more places aren't offering high octane gas to sell to all the people who think it's 'go juice.' If I owned a gas station, I would have hooked up a 100 octane pump long ago and watch the cash roll in.
Add some stickers dude, they will add more HP than the 100 octane will.
There are tons of threads about octane, just search.
I am actually surprised that more places aren't offering high octane gas to sell to all the people who think it's 'go juice.' If I owned a gas station, I would have hooked up a 100 octane pump long ago and watch the cash roll in.
10-14-2003 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tonylittell
thats not a very smart thing to say.....ever put 87 octane in a 12to 1 engine? freaking thing detonates all over the place.....you definatly get results from higher octane gas.....its not a turbo boost or anything....but it droped my times by almost 2tenths both times i hit the track and used it.....
we need you to explain EXACTLY why you think race gas lowered your times... how much gas did you have, how much race gas did you add, how many runs, what were ALL the times...
my first run ever I got a 15.3, second I got 14.9, third I got 14.6... I conclude from that experiment that RACING lowers your times... if I only could have run 2 more times I would have gotten into the 13s... 3 more after that and I would have gotten a 12.8!!! If they stayed open all night I could have run so fast my car would have gone back in time!!!!
10-14-2003 | 02:58 PM
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i heard, the higher the octane the cooler the engine runs, not hotter.
10-14-2003 | 03:00 PM
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here is the low down
Are you tempted to buy a high octane gasoline for your car because you want to improve its performance? If so, take note: the recommended gasoline for most cars is regular octane. In fact, in most cases, using a higher octane gasoline than your owner's manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won't make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner. Your best bet: listen to your owner's manual.
The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money, too. Premium gas costs 15 to 20 cents per gallon more than regular. That can add up to $100 or more a year in extra costs. Studies indicate that altogether, drivers may be spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year for higher octane gas than they need.
What are octane ratings?
Octane ratings measure a gasoline's ability to resist engine knock, a rattling or pinging sound that results from premature ignition of the compressed fuel-air mixture in one or more cylinders. Most gas stations offer three octane grades: regular (usually 87 octane), mid-grade (usually 89 octane) and premium (usually 92 or 93). The ratings must be posted on bright yellow stickers on each gasoline pump.
What's the right octane level for your car?
Check your owner's manual to determine the right octane level for your car. Regular octane is recommended for most cars. However, some cars with high compression engines, like sports cars and certain luxury cars, need mid-grade or premium gasoline to prevent knock.
How can you tell if you're using the right octane level? Listen to your car's engine. If it doesn't knock when you use the recommended octane, you're using the right grade of gasoline.
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money, too. Premium gas costs 15 to 20 cents per gallon more than regular. That can add up to $100 or more a year in extra costs. Studies indicate that altogether, drivers may be spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year for higher octane gas than they need.
What are octane ratings?
Octane ratings measure a gasoline's ability to resist engine knock, a rattling or pinging sound that results from premature ignition of the compressed fuel-air mixture in one or more cylinders. Most gas stations offer three octane grades: regular (usually 87 octane), mid-grade (usually 89 octane) and premium (usually 92 or 93). The ratings must be posted on bright yellow stickers on each gasoline pump.
What's the right octane level for your car?
Check your owner's manual to determine the right octane level for your car. Regular octane is recommended for most cars. However, some cars with high compression engines, like sports cars and certain luxury cars, need mid-grade or premium gasoline to prevent knock.
How can you tell if you're using the right octane level? Listen to your car's engine. If it doesn't knock when you use the recommended octane, you're using the right grade of gasoline.
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
10-14-2003 | 03:54 PM
#15
Originally Posted by Virus
Using the higher octane will not benefit our cars performance in any way shape or form. Always remember. The higher the octane, the longer the fuel takes to burn. It also runs much hotter.
NO KIDDING ?
10-14-2003 | 04:12 PM
#17
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
it was a very smart thing to say, car-wise and business-wise... he'd make a lot of money off people who have no idea what octane does, and there seems to be plenty of that in this thread.
we need you to explain EXACTLY why you think race gas lowered your times... how much gas did you have, how much race gas did you add, how many runs, what were ALL the times...
my first run ever I got a 15.3, second I got 14.9, third I got 14.6... I conclude from that experiment that RACING lowers your times... if I only could have run 2 more times I would have gotten into the 13s... 3 more after that and I would have gotten a 12.8!!! If they stayed open all night I could have run so fast my car would have gone back in time!!!!
we need you to explain EXACTLY why you think race gas lowered your times... how much gas did you have, how much race gas did you add, how many runs, what were ALL the times...
my first run ever I got a 15.3, second I got 14.9, third I got 14.6... I conclude from that experiment that RACING lowers your times... if I only could have run 2 more times I would have gotten into the 13s... 3 more after that and I would have gotten a 12.8!!! If they stayed open all night I could have run so fast my car would have gone back in time!!!!
well lets see....it wasnt smart or accurate.... run a 12to 1 motor on 87 then run it on 93..... you will not only hear a differance and feel a differance.....its not a turbo charger by no means ....but it definatly helps......go to the track and test it your self......as for how much i use and a mixture?i live 3miles from the track....i drive there with the milage showing ---- and i put 4 gallons in....so there is probobly a gallon in the tank when i put it in there.........i run anywhere between 14.2 and 14.45 with 93 octane......with 100 octane gt unleded from sunoco....i run consistant 13.98s to 14.1s....thats why i know it works.....as far as 110 or 112 or 116 no i would never use it.....would probobly hurt the motor......but i do know the 100 unleded sunoco works......the car redlines so fast in firs and second i have trouble shifting sometimes with the gt 100......when i run my 6spd with 93 i shift into 4th gear about 100feet before i get to the trap.....when i use the gt100 i shift into 4th about 300 feet before the traps.....the car winds out alot faster with the 100....wich tells me the fuel is burning faster not slower like someone sugested
10-14-2003 | 04:15 PM
#18
my first run ever I got a 15.3, second I got 14.9, third I got 14.6... I conclude from that experiment that RACING lowers your times... if I only could have run 2 more times I would have gotten into the 13s... 3 more after that and I would have gotten a 12.8!!! If they stayed open all night I could have run so fast my car would have gone back in time!!!!
and that ^ quote was the dumbest F U C K I N G analogy i ever heard........run with the freaking gas before you say anything about it not working
and that ^ quote was the dumbest F U C K I N G analogy i ever heard........run with the freaking gas before you say anything about it not working
10-14-2003 | 06:28 PM
#19
When I put 87 octane into my car, I ran a 15.1.
When I put 89 octane into my car, I ran a 14.8.
When I put 91 octane into my car, I ran a 14.5.
When I put 94 octane into my car, I ran a 14.1.
When I put in 126 octane into my car, I ran a 12.6 and blew off a headgasket.
When I put 89 octane into my car, I ran a 14.8.
When I put 91 octane into my car, I ran a 14.5.
When I put 94 octane into my car, I ran a 14.1.
When I put in 126 octane into my car, I ran a 12.6 and blew off a headgasket.
10-14-2003 | 06:45 PM
#20
I see you did research
Originally Posted by Luquire
Are you tempted to buy a high octane gasoline for your car because you want to improve its performance? If so, take note: the recommended gasoline for most cars is regular octane. In fact, in most cases, using a higher octane gasoline than your owner's manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won't make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner. Your best bet: listen to your owner's manual.
The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money, too. Premium gas costs 15 to 20 cents per gallon more than regular. That can add up to $100 or more a year in extra costs. Studies indicate that altogether, drivers may be spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year for higher octane gas than they need.
What are octane ratings?
Octane ratings measure a gasoline's ability to resist engine knock, a rattling or pinging sound that results from premature ignition of the compressed fuel-air mixture in one or more cylinders. Most gas stations offer three octane grades: regular (usually 87 octane), mid-grade (usually 89 octane) and premium (usually 92 or 93). The ratings must be posted on bright yellow stickers on each gasoline pump.
What's the right octane level for your car?
Check your owner's manual to determine the right octane level for your car. Regular octane is recommended for most cars. However, some cars with high compression engines, like sports cars and certain luxury cars, need mid-grade or premium gasoline to prevent knock.
How can you tell if you're using the right octane level? Listen to your car's engine. If it doesn't knock when you use the recommended octane, you're using the right grade of gasoline.
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money, too. Premium gas costs 15 to 20 cents per gallon more than regular. That can add up to $100 or more a year in extra costs. Studies indicate that altogether, drivers may be spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year for higher octane gas than they need.
What are octane ratings?
Octane ratings measure a gasoline's ability to resist engine knock, a rattling or pinging sound that results from premature ignition of the compressed fuel-air mixture in one or more cylinders. Most gas stations offer three octane grades: regular (usually 87 octane), mid-grade (usually 89 octane) and premium (usually 92 or 93). The ratings must be posted on bright yellow stickers on each gasoline pump.
What's the right octane level for your car?
Check your owner's manual to determine the right octane level for your car. Regular octane is recommended for most cars. However, some cars with high compression engines, like sports cars and certain luxury cars, need mid-grade or premium gasoline to prevent knock.
How can you tell if you're using the right octane level? Listen to your car's engine. If it doesn't knock when you use the recommended octane, you're using the right grade of gasoline.
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
10-14-2003 | 06:53 PM
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I completly forgot, that everyone in here is a Nissan Mechanic, They are Japanese and well they built the Maxima in Japan. Please people, if you don't know what your talking about just leave it be. It seems like everyone has to put there own 2 cents in no matter what. I guess thats why I really never trust people on here for information on how to do something. if I read and did what everyone in here said to do, Hmmmmmmmmmm my maxima would be in the JunkYard now and I would be walking to work. just like that one guy, sorry but I have to say this. The ECU reset, the guy read the post and then went to reset his ECU, well he tried doing it with the engine on!!! This is great, one part of the instructions was to press the pedal all the way to the floor for 10 seconds. Well not to cut on this guy but he did that. he was lucky that he didn't blow his engine. So that is why I take almost everything said on here with a grain of salt. I just pick and choose what I read and learn. Not cutting on everyone here, some people have some great things to say thats for sure and I have recieved some great ideas and help from people but for the most part people in here all believe they are in the top 10 of Mechanics and Engineers of the world. This post wast just to let people know that I put 2 gallons of 100 octane into my car and thats it.
10-14-2003 | 07:20 PM
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due credit to the original writer and not use it as your own and
take credit.
Mike
Originally Posted by Luquire
Are you tempted to buy a high octane gasoline for your car because you want to improve its performance? If so, take note: the recommended gasoline for most cars is regular octane. In fact, in most cases, using a higher octane gasoline than your owner's manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won't make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner. Your best bet: listen to your owner's manual.
The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money, too. Premium gas costs 15 to 20 cents per gallon more than regular. That can add up to $100 or more a year in extra costs. Studies indicate that altogether, drivers may be spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year for higher octane gas than they need.
What are octane ratings?
Octane ratings measure a gasoline's ability to resist engine knock, a rattling or pinging sound that results from premature ignition of the compressed fuel-air mixture in one or more cylinders. Most gas stations offer three octane grades: regular (usually 87 octane), mid-grade (usually 89 octane) and premium (usually 92 or 93). The ratings must be posted on bright yellow stickers on each gasoline pump.
What's the right octane level for your car?
Check your owner's manual to determine the right octane level for your car. Regular octane is recommended for most cars. However, some cars with high compression engines, like sports cars and certain luxury cars, need mid-grade or premium gasoline to prevent knock.
How can you tell if you're using the right octane level? Listen to your car's engine. If it doesn't knock when you use the recommended octane, you're using the right grade of gasoline.
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
The only time you might need to switch to a higher octane level is if your car engine knocks when you use the recommended fuel. This happens to a small percentage of cars.
Unless your engine is knocking, buying higher octane gasoline is a waste of money, too. Premium gas costs 15 to 20 cents per gallon more than regular. That can add up to $100 or more a year in extra costs. Studies indicate that altogether, drivers may be spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year for higher octane gas than they need.
What are octane ratings?
Octane ratings measure a gasoline's ability to resist engine knock, a rattling or pinging sound that results from premature ignition of the compressed fuel-air mixture in one or more cylinders. Most gas stations offer three octane grades: regular (usually 87 octane), mid-grade (usually 89 octane) and premium (usually 92 or 93). The ratings must be posted on bright yellow stickers on each gasoline pump.
What's the right octane level for your car?
Check your owner's manual to determine the right octane level for your car. Regular octane is recommended for most cars. However, some cars with high compression engines, like sports cars and certain luxury cars, need mid-grade or premium gasoline to prevent knock.
How can you tell if you're using the right octane level? Listen to your car's engine. If it doesn't knock when you use the recommended octane, you're using the right grade of gasoline.
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
10-14-2003 | 07:25 PM
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I love the smell of 100 octane w/ NO CATS. Yeah what a tard I am, but it makes you feel good.
I used 100 octane once. Its not worth it. Sunoco 94 or BP/Amoco 93 is fine with me. Mobil 93 seems to be less quality than BP 93. I knocked a few times during hot weather. Never on BP93.
As for faster times. I will agree on Non-NA cars, esp on juice or boost, times do drop. If you have turbo at least kick it up 2 more PSI.
I used 100 octane once. Its not worth it. Sunoco 94 or BP/Amoco 93 is fine with me. Mobil 93 seems to be less quality than BP 93. I knocked a few times during hot weather. Never on BP93.
As for faster times. I will agree on Non-NA cars, esp on juice or boost, times do drop. If you have turbo at least kick it up 2 more PSI.
10-14-2003 | 07:30 PM
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JAMES R. HEALEY GANNETT NEWS SERVICE explain about the higher octane. Check it out....
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news...ss/92744.shtml
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news...ss/92744.shtml
10-14-2003 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tonylittell
when i use the gt100 i shift into 4th about 300 feet before the traps.....the car winds out alot faster with the 100....wich tells me the fuel is burning faster not slower like someone sugested
2. you really have no idea what octane is or does... "wich (sic) tells me the fuel is burning faster not slower"... so before you bust on me how about you
READ:
http://www.cheap-auto-car-insurance-...e_gasoline.htm
AND LEARN:
...fuel with less octane will burn faster than a fuel with high octane rating.
3. The pic below is from your owner's manual... I use either 89 or 91 but it mentions NOTHING about 100 octane or even 93 being better than 91. So please, before I really start going after you and people start hitting you with "owned" smilies, please read a little more before posting this crap. You're really embarassing yourself.
10-14-2003 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tonylittell
and that ^ quote was the dumbest F U C K I N G analogy i ever heard........run with the freaking gas before you say anything about it not working
and as for your "run with the freakin gas" thing... i don't have to touch a flame to know it's hot, i can learn from others' experiences. Same for this issue... i can read so I don't have to "run with the freakin gas" to know it's all in your head.
OR... I'll give you an out so you can save some face... MAYBE there is something wrong with your car and that's why 100 octane makes it feel like it runs better. I'd get it checked before you really get owned on maxima.org.
10-14-2003 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tonylittell
thats not a very smart thing to say.....ever put 87 octane in a 12to 1 engine? freaking thing detonates all over the place.....you definatly get results from higher octane gas.....its not a turbo boost or anything....but it droped my times by almost 2tenths both times i hit the track and used it.....
And those 2 tenths could have been anything.
10-14-2003 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hct67
I completly forgot, that everyone in here is a Nissan Mechanic, They are Japanese and well they built the Maxima in Japan. Please people, if you don't know what your talking about just leave it be. It seems like everyone has to put there own 2 cents in no matter what. I guess thats why I really never trust people on here for information on how to do something. if I read and did what everyone in here said to do, Hmmmmmmmmmm my maxima would be in the JunkYard now and I would be walking to work. just like that one guy, sorry but I have to say this. The ECU reset, the guy read the post and then went to reset his ECU, well he tried doing it with the engine on!!! This is great, one part of the instructions was to press the pedal all the way to the floor for 10 seconds. Well not to cut on this guy but he did that. he was lucky that he didn't blow his engine. So that is why I take almost everything said on here with a grain of salt. I just pick and choose what I read and learn. Not cutting on everyone here, some people have some great things to say thats for sure and I have recieved some great ideas and help from people but for the most part people in here all believe they are in the top 10 of Mechanics and Engineers of the world. This post wast just to let people know that I put 2 gallons of 100 octane into my car and thats it.
10-14-2003 | 10:37 PM
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I have to agree with most of you guys about the Octane rating. I never seen or heard of places that have rating of 100. It's probably not a good idea. I had a friend told me that he found jet fuel that have an octane like 120. It really boosted the engine run however, it melted the piston and snapped the crankshaft. So I would be cautious since most of the cars out there are designed to run on octane of 94 or less
10-14-2003 | 10:59 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by FanaticMadMax
I had a friend told me that he found jet fuel that have an octane like 120. It really boosted the engine run however, it melted the piston and snapped the crankshaft.
jet fuel wouldn't burn in a gasonline engine.
10-15-2003 | 04:14 AM
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The limit to gains from octane is the spark advance curve programmed into the ecu and the knock sensor. Once you have enough octane to prevent knock at full advance you won't gain from more octane. Where is that value - hard to say but it is unlikely to be much above the recommended octane. Also, in an 18 gal tank, 16 gal. of 94 octane plus 2 gal of 100 octane results in 18 gal of 94.666 octane - not much difference.
10-15-2003 | 05:15 AM
#33
Okay, can someone answer my previous question on how a car magazine was able to dyno a 350Z and net higher HP numbers when they tested it out with 100 octane gas?
I'm not trying to argue with anyone here, but after reading a lot of posts saying higher octane won't do anything for the VQ35DE - i'm getting more curious.
I'm not trying to argue with anyone here, but after reading a lot of posts saying higher octane won't do anything for the VQ35DE - i'm getting more curious.
10-15-2003 | 05:28 AM
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2k2wannabe has attached this image:
wannabe, even if the manual does say to use 87, I don't recommend it, my wife made the sad mistake of putting 87 into my Max and let me tell you that thing ran like a POS.
It was knocking and pinging all over the place, another thing and this is just my opinion on why the manual says that it is ok to use 87 is simply this:
Let's say you were going across country and came to one of those Mom and Pop shops that happens to have a pump but those pumps only carry 87, are you supposed to sit there and just be stranded?
No, I think that is the reason the manual says it's ok to go ahead and use the 87, however it clearly recommends using 91, although I use 91, 92 or 93 if it's available and I haven't had any problems with those of the recommended grade or higher.
So to those of you Bold Souls that are willing to run your car on that cheap a$$ 87, I say "Go ahead" that will leave more 91 and above for me.
wannabe, even if the manual does say to use 87, I don't recommend it, my wife made the sad mistake of putting 87 into my Max and let me tell you that thing ran like a POS.
It was knocking and pinging all over the place, another thing and this is just my opinion on why the manual says that it is ok to use 87 is simply this:
Let's say you were going across country and came to one of those Mom and Pop shops that happens to have a pump but those pumps only carry 87, are you supposed to sit there and just be stranded?
No, I think that is the reason the manual says it's ok to go ahead and use the 87, however it clearly recommends using 91, although I use 91, 92 or 93 if it's available and I haven't had any problems with those of the recommended grade or higher.
So to those of you Bold Souls that are willing to run your car on that cheap a$$ 87, I say "Go ahead" that will leave more 91 and above for me.
10-15-2003 | 05:32 AM
#35
Originally Posted by soundmike
Okay, can someone answer my previous question on how a car magazine was able to dyno a 350Z and net higher HP numbers when they tested it out with 100 octane gas?
I'm not trying to argue with anyone here, but after reading a lot of posts saying higher octane won't do anything for the VQ35DE - i'm getting more curious.
I'm not trying to argue with anyone here, but after reading a lot of posts saying higher octane won't do anything for the VQ35DE - i'm getting more curious.
I have tried different combinations of fuel in my car and one of the best seemed to be a tank of 93 octane topped off with 1 gallon of 110 octane race gas. But even that doesn't always work. The only way to know for sure would be to use an in car accelerometer and log the data. But for the most part adding a few gallons of expensive racing gas is just throwing money away if you've already started with 93 octane.
10-15-2003 | 05:49 AM
#36
It's chrome alright...
Joined: Dec 2001
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
I use either 89 or 91
Originally Posted by bk2kmax
wannabe, even if the manual does say to use 87, I don't recommend it, ...
...So to those of you Bold Souls that are willing to run your car on that cheap a$$ 87, I say "Go ahead" that will leave more 91 and above for me.
...So to those of you Bold Souls that are willing to run your car on that cheap a$$ 87, I say "Go ahead" that will leave more 91 and above for me.
10-15-2003 | 06:32 AM
#37
Originally Posted by soundmike
Just curious, how was it that the Z - N/A was able to put out a bit more HP using 100 octane? I think it was SCC that tested this a while back.
10-15-2003 | 06:38 PM
#38
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
thanks for saying it was dumb... that was my point, it was exactly like your post.
and as for your "run with the freakin gas" thing... i don't have to touch a flame to know it's hot, i can learn from others' experiences. Same for this issue... i can read so I don't have to "run with the freakin gas" to know it's all in your head.
OR... I'll give you an out so you can save some face... MAYBE there is something wrong with your car and that's why 100 octane makes it feel like it runs better. I'd get it checked before you really get owned on maxima.org.
and as for your "run with the freakin gas" thing... i don't have to touch a flame to know it's hot, i can learn from others' experiences. Same for this issue... i can read so I don't have to "run with the freakin gas" to know it's all in your head.
OR... I'll give you an out so you can save some face... MAYBE there is something wrong with your car and that's why 100 octane makes it feel like it runs better. I'd get it checked before you really get owned on maxima.org.
well i have and so has jbwhitley (in my car)...so id say my driving skills would be a little better than yours....i dont have the kind of inconsistancy in my times that you get... now when im running 13.9s in mime with 100 octane and i see about 2 thents consistantly with the 100 octane ..it tells me differant than what some jack a s s that has never used it has told me....... as for weither it burns slower or faster?well i dont know....but my car revs alot faster with it......100 foot before the trap going into 4th verses 300 foot going into 4th before the traps says alot too........as for getting owned in here you D U M B F U C K.....DOUBT IT....2TENTHS AND FASTER SHIFTS IN A CAR THAT ALREADY IS RUNNING 14.2S CONSISTANTLY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF......see i would say maybe i wasnt driving the car to its potential but running 14.2 with pump gas is putting the car to the most it can....how many org members are running 14.2 STOCK? NOT MANY
so as far as being owned on the org? go ahead see what you can do you freaking fool!
im speaking from real life experiances.....you talking out the side of your neck........take your freaking car and go play somewhere else until you know with YOUR OWN EXPERIANCES what something will or wont do......
10-15-2003 | 07:08 PM
#39
It's chrome alright...
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,009
Originally Posted by tonylittell
you talking out the side of your neck...
Anyway, you want to break into the 13s? Use your "proven" 100 octane and get this, Timing Advance Resistor and this, Intake Power Mod and you can spend a total of $30 on ebay and get nearly 50HP!! Those mods are going to help as much
Or you can realize which one of us is the dumb**** for pis*ing away money on something that 10 other people in this thread also agree DOES NOT HELP!
10-15-2003 | 08:17 PM
#40
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 816
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
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3. The pic below is from your owner's manual... I use either 89 or 91 but it mentions NOTHING about 100 octane or even 93 being better than 91. So please, before I really start going after you and people start hitting you with "owned" smilies, please read a little more before posting this crap. You're really embarassing yourself.
3. The pic below is from your owner's manual... I use either 89 or 91 but it mentions NOTHING about 100 octane or even 93 being better than 91. So please, before I really start going after you and people start hitting you with "owned" smilies, please read a little more before posting this crap. You're really embarassing yourself.
My car is pinging .. I thought it had stopped but I must of gone deaf for a few months. But now I can hear that annoying pinging going down our quiet neighborhoods each day
NISSAN SERVICE says they dont hear anything.. and one tech told me that the pinging is normal... Can somebody enlighten me on this "pinging" and how it doesnt have detrimental effects on the VQ35?