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Old 10-23-2003, 06:25 PM
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I just put "Sylvania Silver Star" aftermarket headlight bulbs in my 2k. Sylvania claims almost (but not quite) HID performance from the bulbs. I can varify that they are great, and produce the same clear light as HID lights. I would swear that I was looking at an HID system if I didn't know better. So, for you guys that are having HID theft problems, this could be your solution. But, the even these bulbs are expensive at $33 Canadian each ($25 US)
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any pics cause its hard to belive....u can tell between hids and superwhite bulbs
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I'll try and post pics soon

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any pics cause its hard to belive....u can tell between hids and superwhite bulbs
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as much as you might want to believe that the silverstars are as bright as HIDs, they surely aren't.....i've seen them and I have HIDs, and I can tell you there is a WORLD of difference
 
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Ya, I guess it can't be as good as they claim. They look the role, but I guess they can't play it. Sylvania's spec's show that they are almost as good though.

Originally Posted by NT2SHBBY
as much as you might want to believe that the silverstars are as bright as HIDs, they surely aren't.....i've seen them and I have HIDs, and I can tell you there is a WORLD of difference
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Old 10-23-2003, 06:53 PM
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Ya, I guess it can't be as good as they claim. They look the role, but I guess they can't play it. Sylvania's spec's show that they are almost as good though.

if you believe a $30 bulb is anywhere nearly as good as a $100 bulb, I got a Brooklyn Bridge I can sell ya cheap!

 
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Take it easy, he is only tryin to help.
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:15 PM
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I put the Sylvania in my high beams and they look nice but not as nice as the Xenon. Decent choice for bulbs for the money.
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:28 PM
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Well, if you're anywhere near Brooklyn, you won't have those $100 bulbs for very long. And sadly enough, you bragging rights will go down the drain when they are stolen.

I was just laying down a suggestion for people. These bulbs are great for Halogens, and are near as good as HIDs. Do I actually believe that they as good or better, NO.

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if you believe a $30 bulb is anywhere nearly as good as a $100 bulb, I got a Brooklyn Bridge I can sell ya cheap!

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Old 10-23-2003, 09:32 PM
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I have some nice PIAA's on my headlights and I used to have HIDs but the bulbs I have now almost reporudce the color of the HIDs which match my HID fogs, but the light output is nowhere near HID output.

That's how I differentiate between a car with HIDs and one that looks like the HIDs, how much light is being projected in front of it.
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Old 10-23-2003, 09:38 PM
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first of all the 2k2 and 2k3 hid's are a piece of s**t my friend has a 2k2 and they arent bright at all i dont know why anyone would want to steal them they look like they must be 4500k i just put the ae headlights on my 2k and ill get a 8500k aftermarket hid kit and when parked no one will know i have hids until i turn them on
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Old 10-23-2003, 09:42 PM
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Uh, from what little knowledge I have acquired about lighting, I believe that an 8500k hid system will not have as much light output as a 4500k stock hid system because you're sacrificing light output for color, so all you're gonna have is a lot of blue or purple light to blind other drivers.
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Old 10-23-2003, 09:50 PM
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yeah there is a thing called color shifting, as your HID capsules (bulbs) get older and used more the color becomes more blue...like it goes from 4300k to like 5000k for example...light output is decreased...so more than likely the higher temp you go, the more show it is but less light like guzo said

also comment on the silverstars, I had my friend get them for his mustang, O WHERE near the look of HID...it looks whiter than regular halogens but nowhere close to our 2k2's

edit: for more info, check out www.hidforum.com
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Old 10-23-2003, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jgibson146
I put the Sylvania in my high beams and they look nice but not as nice as the Xenon. Decent choice for bulbs for the money.

What's the part number for replacing the high beams?
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Old 10-24-2003, 12:07 AM
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I bought the Silvertars,,, and trust me they s*ck .. changed them 3 days later..IMO they looked nothing like HID's..
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Old 10-24-2003, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MadXtreme01
first of all the 2k2 and 2k3 hid's are a piece of s**t my friend has a 2k2 and they arent bright at all i dont know why anyone would want to steal them they look like they must be 4500k i just put the ae headlights on my 2k and ill get a 8500k aftermarket hid kit and when parked no one will know i have hids until i turn them on
Are you a moron ? Is crack part of your daily supplement of vitamins and minerals... ? Why dont you Newbies just shut the Fukkk up !

I drive my Max 50 miles each way to work. Every AM i drive it in pitch dark black roads. I love my HIDS....Not bright at all huh Einstein....just shut up ! You sound so retarded !
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Old 10-24-2003, 01:31 AM
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The HIDS are definetly the sheeet.I have AE lights in for a couple of weeks now and I really do miss my HIDS
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Old 10-24-2003, 03:01 AM
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That's how I differentiate between a car with HIDs and one that looks like the HIDs, how much light is being projected in front of it.
I keep doing that.. 'ooh nice lights.. nm halogens'. people must think i find the pavement attractive.
 
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Originally Posted by EvilRoadsVictim
I keep doing that.. 'ooh nice lights.. nm halogens'. people must think i find the pavement attractive.
All these new cars with halogens are starting to give out a lot of output, I look at any new Mercedes without HIDs and their lights are pretty strong for halogens. Even the new Saturns, it must be the projectors or something.
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Old 10-24-2003, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GuZo
All these new cars with halogens are starting to give out a lot of output, I look at any new Mercedes without HIDs and their lights are pretty strong for halogens. Even the new Saturns, it must be the projectors or something.

Yeah the projection helps a ton, i had Silverstars in my TTZ and they where no where near the intesity of my 2k2 HIDS, but they where definitley better than the stock yellow/white bulbs. Because of the projection beam in my TTZ , the Silverstars some time shined purple,bluish white and even pale green. They look good in projector beam setups, but i have to agree, in a non projection setup the silverstars look pretty weak, there just brighter than a stock halogen.
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Old 10-24-2003, 09:48 AM
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I upgraded a vehicle to the SilverStars and other than a whiter beam, they really put out no more light than the factory halogens. The Eurolight Fusions I am running in my high beams are WAY better than the SilverStars and far cheaper.....
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Originally Posted by kloogy
Are you a moron ? Is crack part of your daily supplement of vitamins and minerals... ? Why dont you Newbies just shut the Fukkk up !

I drive my Max 50 miles each way to work. Every AM i drive it in pitch dark black roads. I love my HIDS....Not bright at all huh Einstein....just shut up ! You sound so retarded !
ehh stess management my friend...
Breathe in, breathe out
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Old 10-24-2003, 04:16 PM
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Thanks for the tip!

Originally Posted by Audtatious
I upgraded a vehicle to the SilverStars and other than a whiter beam, they really put out no more light than the factory halogens. The Eurolight Fusions I am running in my high beams are WAY better than the SilverStars and far cheaper.....
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Old 10-24-2003, 04:17 PM
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Yup i got them 2. Replaced my high beams and not that big of a difference but an improvement over stock.Besides how often do you use your high? Whats the big deal with spending $100+ versus $19 @ autozone.
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Old 10-24-2003, 04:18 PM
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Where can I get the eurolights?

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I upgraded a vehicle to the SilverStars and other than a whiter beam, they really put out no more light than the factory halogens. The Eurolight Fusions I am running in my high beams are WAY better than the SilverStars and far cheaper.....
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Originally Posted by GLE02NJ
yeah there is a thing called color shifting, as your HID capsules (bulbs) get older and used more the color becomes more blue...like it goes from 4300k to like 5000k for example...light output is decreased...so more than likely the higher temp you go, the more show it is but less light like guzo said

also comment on the silverstars, I had my friend get them for his mustang, O WHERE near the look of HID...it looks whiter than regular halogens but nowhere close to our 2k2's

edit: for more info, check out www.hidforum.com

bull**** bull**** bull****....i have an 8000k blue kit and i can say that i can see just as much as u if not better so dont start with that higher u go bull****.....lol plus the 8000k blue kit does look better and stands out more from the croud....and if u look at maxima polaks signature pic u can see my car to the right and his to the left and see the diff.....
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Old 10-25-2003, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ppetruccelli
Where can I get the eurolights?
www.toucanindustries.com

Eurolight Catalog in PDF

I'm running Fusions which are not DOT approved, but since they are only high beams, I did not worry about it. In my GF's '02 Cougar, I replaced the highs and lows with Fusions and they are doing a far better job than the factory halogens. Color is actually "more white" than the factory HID's in my '02, yet do have a blue-ish effect. Their SuperPlasma series is DOT approved, but more purple. Not sure about the looks of their Xenon Crystal's...

I picked mine up via SoundMike.....

While I don't have a pic of them on, they do look pretty kewl when they are off
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Old 10-25-2003, 11:02 AM
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Well I still think I am right.

the 8000k does grab more attention and stands out....better for the cops to spot you
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Old 10-25-2003, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GLE02NJ
nooo...he has a 8000k HID kit and was comparing it to our 4100K HIDs

well I still think i am right

also, yeah the 8000k does grab more attention and stands out....better for the cops to spot you
sorry, I'll retract everything but the "ricer-blue" part

and I think you're right, too, about the color-shift and the cop-attention.
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Old 10-25-2003, 11:41 AM
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I have 6500K Osram D2R bulbs with Bosch ignitors off a A8- used to work for Audi. The bulbs are off a CL-S Acura. With AE headlights on my GXE the lights give out soooo much whitness on the road infront of me that people blink their high beams at me to change to low beam- where I don't have high beam no more due to HIDs. I also have the same kit for my fog lights. HID theft in my area is not an issue- almost every other car in my neighborhood has HIDs. And even if they get stolen, they won't be able to do much about using them... totally custom, and impossible to remove with regular tools- especially the fogs.
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Old 10-25-2003, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
short answer... he's right, you're wrong, but I've read enough of your posts to know there's no changing your mind so we shouldn't bother arguing...I just wanted people who read this thread to know you're full of **** but refuse to admit HIDs look and perform better than your ricer-blues.

From reading your other posts if you could have HIDs you'd have them, and this is just your way of trying to "look blingbling" without having to spend the money for something REAL.
ouch man that hurt.... i didnt say ur hids didnt perform good or they suck i was just saying that i like the blue more thats it....have some respect for others opinions
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Old 10-25-2003, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by greekmax2k1
ouch man that hurt.... i didnt say ur hids didnt perform good or they suck i was just saying that i like the blue more thats it....have some respect for others opinions
I'm sorry, I'm sorry... i took back everything but the blue comment... i would have deleted the post but he included it in his reply so it was too late.

not a big fan of blues...but to each his own.
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
I'm sorry, I'm sorry... i took back everything but the blue comment... i would have deleted the post but he included it in his reply so it was too late.

not a big fan of blues...but to each his own.
why didnt you say so!

I edited that post...now you 2 edit yours
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Originally Posted by GLE02NJ
why didnt you say so!

I edited that post...now you 2 edit yours
but he replied with my original post in it... it's a never ending battle!!

thanks.
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Originally Posted by NT2SHBBY
if you believe a $30 bulb is anywhere nearly as good as a $100 bulb, I got a Brooklyn Bridge I can sell ya cheap!

and if you believe a $1400 HID swap is worth $1350 more than a silverstar
bulb swap, I have some Arizona beach front property that YOU might be
interested in.

man, they see you comin', don't they?
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Just let the old threads die, will you?


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