PT1011 Muffler installed...
11-08-2003, 02:39 PM
#1
PT1011 Muffler installed...
... and i had the shop take it off less an hour after.
The drone between 2-3k rpm, especially around 2-2.5k is just too much for me. Whether i open the windows or not.
Below 2k and above 3k the drone is gone, otherwise it's just obnoxious and on my test drive with it on, it seems i had more people wanting to "race" me from stoplight to stoplight.
I was going to do a before/after video and sound clip comparison but it was too annoying to have on there for much longer. The video clips on a fellow .orger's exhaust comparison site cannot even start to describe how it actually sounds in real-life.
From a stop it's loud, while cruising in city streets it's barely noticeable. Punching it is loud until i get past 3k and cruising on the highway at 70mph and so it's loud.
How loud? Definitely not +/-30% louder as Powertech claims, it's *much* louder than that.
To the PT1011's credit however, it does look good and perhaps it's better for those with manual's as they can regulate their rpm's more precisely - but on an auto...
I know a lot of other members have it and love it, but personally i think there's too much of a drone to the point of being obnoxious for a family sedan.
P.S. It was a used Powertech so i didn't feel like i should have let it go through a break-in period.
The drone between 2-3k rpm, especially around 2-2.5k is just too much for me. Whether i open the windows or not.
Below 2k and above 3k the drone is gone, otherwise it's just obnoxious and on my test drive with it on, it seems i had more people wanting to "race" me from stoplight to stoplight.
I was going to do a before/after video and sound clip comparison but it was too annoying to have on there for much longer. The video clips on a fellow .orger's exhaust comparison site cannot even start to describe how it actually sounds in real-life.
From a stop it's loud, while cruising in city streets it's barely noticeable. Punching it is loud until i get past 3k and cruising on the highway at 70mph and so it's loud.
How loud? Definitely not +/-30% louder as Powertech claims, it's *much* louder than that.
To the PT1011's credit however, it does look good and perhaps it's better for those with manual's as they can regulate their rpm's more precisely - but on an auto...
I know a lot of other members have it and love it, but personally i think there's too much of a drone to the point of being obnoxious for a family sedan.
P.S. It was a used Powertech so i didn't feel like i should have let it go through a break-in period.
11-08-2003, 03:02 PM
#5
We checked, there were no leaks and all the welds were fine.
The sound is probably good for you 6spd owners since you can easily regulate your rpms, but to me the drone resonated into the cabin in that specific rpm range. Otherwise you can barely hear it.
I guess i underestimated the sound of the muffler, i was hoping for something slightly more than stock but not too much that it actually gets noticed.
The sound is probably good for you 6spd owners since you can easily regulate your rpms, but to me the drone resonated into the cabin in that specific rpm range. Otherwise you can barely hear it.
I guess i underestimated the sound of the muffler, i was hoping for something slightly more than stock but not too much that it actually gets noticed.
11-08-2003, 03:07 PM
#6
Originally Posted by soundmike
We checked, there were no leaks and all the welds were fine.
The sound is probably good for you 6spd owners since you can easily regulate your rpms, but to me the drone resonated into the cabin in that specific rpm range. Otherwise you can barely hear it.
I guess i underestimated the sound of the muffler, i was hoping for something slightly more than stock but not too much that it actually gets noticed.
The sound is probably good for you 6spd owners since you can easily regulate your rpms, but to me the drone resonated into the cabin in that specific rpm range. Otherwise you can barely hear it.
I guess i underestimated the sound of the muffler, i was hoping for something slightly more than stock but not too much that it actually gets noticed.
I still think maybe you had a problem...
11-08-2003, 03:09 PM
#7
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Originally Posted by soundmike
We checked, there were no leaks and all the welds were fine.
The sound is probably good for you 6spd owners since you can easily regulate your rpms, but to me the drone resonated into the cabin in that specific rpm range. Otherwise you can barely hear it.
I guess i underestimated the sound of the muffler, i was hoping for something slightly more than stock but not too much that it actually gets noticed.
The sound is probably good for you 6spd owners since you can easily regulate your rpms, but to me the drone resonated into the cabin in that specific rpm range. Otherwise you can barely hear it.
I guess i underestimated the sound of the muffler, i was hoping for something slightly more than stock but not too much that it actually gets noticed.
11-08-2003, 03:16 PM
#8
Originally Posted by Igor911
The thing is, I had it ALSO on my AUTO...and the drone was not that loud. It was very comfortable.
I still think maybe you had a problem...
I still think maybe you had a problem...
11-08-2003, 03:35 PM
#10
Its not a quiet muffler. I have heard louder, but there are many that are quieter. I know the muffler on the Cattman is really quiet. I have the b pipe w/o resonator hooked up to the Powertech and it is a bit loud. I dont mind because i had 2 V8's that were a heck of a lot louder than this....
11-08-2003, 05:39 PM
#11
when I had my PT muffler put on, I swore to my friends that I was gonna take it off soon.
now i just got used to it....I don't really notice it anymore...since I'm always listening to music.
and yes it drones around that 500rpm range.
now i just got used to it....I don't really notice it anymore...since I'm always listening to music.
and yes it drones around that 500rpm range.
11-08-2003, 05:48 PM
#12
Thanks for the responses guys. I dunno, i was sorta scared posting my experience with it. I was honestly expecting at least a "you're too old" remark 
In any case, if i listened to the radio a lot more i guess i could have lived with it. But i'm in Houston with all this Clearchannel crap.
In any case, if i listened to the radio a lot more i guess i could have lived with it. But i'm in Houston with all this Clearchannel crap.
11-09-2003, 01:09 AM
#13
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Your too old. I understand what you are talking about. There is some drone in that range. It always seems louder to me when the wife is in the car also. Gives he something to complain about. To me, the added looks and sound in the non 2200-2600RPM range was worth it.
I understand what you are talking about. There is some drone in that range. It always seems louder to me when the wife is in the car also. Gives he something to complain about. To me, the added looks and sound in the non 2200-2600RPM range was worth it.
11-09-2003, 05:45 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by soundmike
Thanks for the responses guys. I dunno, i was sorta scared posting my experience with it. I was honestly expecting at least a "you're too old" remark
In any case, if i listened to the radio a lot more i guess i could have lived with it. But i'm in Houston with all this Clearchannel crap.
In any case, if i listened to the radio a lot more i guess i could have lived with it. But i'm in Houston with all this Clearchannel crap.
11-09-2003, 06:18 AM
#15
I did like how the thing sounded outside of that rpm range where it droned. Is there any way i could do something to get rid of the drone, short of getting a completely different muffler?
How about if i just replace the resonator with a straight-pipe, how would that sound? drone?
How about if i just replace the resonator with a straight-pipe, how would that sound? drone?
11-09-2003, 07:26 AM
#16
Originally Posted by soundmike
I did like how the thing sounded outside of that rpm range where it droned. Is there any way i could do something to get rid of the drone, short of getting a completely different muffler?
How about if i just replace the resonator with a straight-pipe, how would that sound? drone?
How about if i just replace the resonator with a straight-pipe, how would that sound? drone?
11-09-2003, 07:33 AM
#17
So you're saying,
Stock Muffer + Straight pipe would be louder than the Powertech + Resonator?
I guess there's only one way to find out.
Darn, this thing is costing me some serious dough
Stock Muffer + Straight pipe would be louder than the Powertech + Resonator?
I guess there's only one way to find out.
Darn, this thing is costing me some serious dough
11-09-2003, 07:37 AM
#18
Originally Posted by soundmike
So you're saying,
Stock Muffer + Straight pipe would be louder than the Powertech + Resonator?
I guess there's only one way to find out.
Darn, this thing is costing me some serious dough
Stock Muffer + Straight pipe would be louder than the Powertech + Resonator?
I guess there's only one way to find out.
Darn, this thing is costing me some serious dough
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the straight pipe with the Powertech. Not sure what it would be like with the straight pipe and stock muffler.....
11-09-2003, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by soundmike
So you're saying,
Stock Muffer + Straight pipe would be louder than the Powertech + Resonator?
I guess there's only one way to find out.
Darn, this thing is costing me some serious dough
Stock Muffer + Straight pipe would be louder than the Powertech + Resonator?
I guess there's only one way to find out.
Darn, this thing is costing me some serious dough
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