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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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First Day at the Track for me.....Should of done better.




I had 3 runs.....as you can see I couldn't break 14.6xx for the life of me.

1st run was against a mid-90s Caramaro Z28 Auto.

2nd run I wheel hopped like crazy that my wippers turned on and that was against an late 70s early 80s Cutless Supreme. As you can see he did some work to make it in the 12s.

3rd run was against a 2k3 Mustang GT convertible. This run I had the best launch of them all and as you can see the best times....but the Max felt like it was struggling a bit. Was low on gas.

As for mods I have a Frankencar Intake, 18" rims, Eibachs and agx's and Definitive Pulley and I'm a 6speed. Fronts agx's were at 1 and rears were 6. Tire pressure in the front was 24psi and 32 in the rear. Spare tire was out and I had a little less then 1/4 tank of gas. Gotta work on my launching. Other then that it was a fun day at Englishtown. To my suprise I didn't see and other Maxes.

I saw a E55 do a 12.3 without even trying. The guy just got the car and had a baby seat in the back. It was his first time racing also.

Also, there was an EVO that did a 12.8xx. That was sweet. I felt like such a slow poke around all those fast cars but there were cars there doing 15s and 16s so I didn't feel to bad afterall. I'm looking forward to next season and hopefully I'll have some more mods and be able to get into the low 14s at least or better.

That was my adventure for today.

BTW, My shift points were at 6200rpms. Never had to switch to 5th.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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I know what you mean about being slow. When I took my Camaro out to Las Vegas Speedway (2100ft elevation) I was running 13.7s @ 105mph and felt real slow. IMO anything over a 12.9 is good but not great. I had another Camaro pull the front wheels off the ground to pull a 10.26 @ 124mph! I should have just thrown my car in reverse.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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I saw an old mopar on its back wheels for like an 1/8 of a mile.....ended up doing high 8s.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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DJ,

Today was the last day of the season for Englishtown, and it was a beautiful day too..

I have run the strip there in my Max. It was actually the first time I ever went to the 1/4 mile strip.
My car is totally stock, has full interior and a spare, and when I went my golf clubs were in the trunk. I had about an 1/8th of a tank of gas.

I cannot find all of my time slips, but my best time in my 6speed was 14.61x. I cannot remember it totally.

Here is one of my earlier runs in the day where I missed third (rookie).
R/t .788
60 2.348
330 6.251
1/8 9.609
mph 73.41
1000 12.453
1/4 14.856
mph 94.03

My times were not stellar but this was my first run ever.
I was eventually able to lessen the wheel spin and get down to 14.6

I don't think the 18's are helping in the 1/4 mile, but I am sure they are bling bling.... Also the track is probably significantly cooler now and could lead to a loss of traction, even with teh gummy stuff that is on the surface.

As for feeling slow, don't. There are much slower cars then you out there....look at all those poor civics...
With more practice you can get your reaction time down, and get the feel on how to keep the rubber sticking.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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A 14.6 is not to bad. I ran today at Fayetteville dragstrip and pulled a 14.3@98mph. My 60ft wasn't to bad, but wasn't to good either at 2.38. Anyway I need some work on my launches and I should be in the mid to high 13's then. Right now I'm running around with my damn SES light on because of the Stillen headers little black box not working. So here in a few weeks I should have that problem fixed, plus I'll have a Greddy E-manage installled to fix my problem with my air to fuel ratio being way off. That will most defiently put me in the 13's easy......I hope.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADMAX
A 14.6 is not to bad. I ran today at Fayetteville dragstrip and pulled a 14.3@97mph. My 60ft wasn't to bad, but wasn't to good either at 2.38. Anyway I need some work on my launches and I should be in the mid to high 13's then. Right now I'm running around with my damn SES light on because of the Stillen headers little black box not working. So here in a few weeks I should have that problem fixed, plus I'll have a Greddy E-manage installled to fix my problem with my air to fuel ratio being way off. That will most defiently put me in the 13's easy......I hope.
Mid to high 13's? Do you realize how hard it is to drop a 1/2 second?

Based off of your mph it looks like you will need slicks to get mid 13's with your HP.

No flame just know how hard .5 seconds is to obtain.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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not bad runs at all been there with the wiper thing but I have my armrest come up to and my nav screen come down (makes for some bad distractions) need to get some mounts to cure that
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximam
Mid to high 13's? Do you realize how hard it is to drop a 1/2 second?

Based off of your mph it looks like you will need slicks to get mid 13's with your HP.

No flame just know how hard .5 seconds is to obtain.
Yeah, I know, but to me if Blublu2k2 and Emax02 can do it with less mods, then why can't I. Plus my only reason for not making it into the 13's today was because my launch sucked. My air/fuel is really f'ed up bad and the SES light is not helping me either. So trust me the E-manage should help me out tremendously and with the right launch and more practise in finding the right rpm's to shift at to get the most power, the 13's should be mine. Getting below Blublu2k2's 13.7 is going to be real difficult though. All I can do is try though.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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subdocmax- do you have any mods that put you down into the low 14's or should I take my golf clubs out next time?

I am running totally stock.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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looks good to me , if you can knock .2 off that 60' your would grab a 14.4 im thinking. these 5th gens have some good power though. but i see what some of the other guys are saying about 12.9 and over being okay. you run what you have but 14's are just enough to be fun but it doesnt feel that fast.

anyways, looks real good..those 3.5's are great
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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where can you go to do this??,
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by my02black6spdSE
DJ,

Today was the last day of the season for Englishtown, and it was a beautiful day too..

I have run the strip there in my Max. It was actually the first time I ever went to the 1/4 mile strip.
My car is totally stock, has full interior and a spare, and when I went my golf clubs were in the trunk. I had about an 1/8th of a tank of gas.

I cannot find all of my time slips, but my best time in my 6speed was 14.61x. I cannot remember it totally.

Here is one of my earlier runs in the day where I missed third (rookie).
R/t .788
60 2.348
330 6.251
1/8 9.609
mph 73.41
1000 12.453
1/4 14.856
mph 94.03

My times were not stellar but this was my first run ever.
I was eventually able to lessen the wheel spin and get down to 14.6

I don't think the 18's are helping in the 1/4 mile, but I am sure they are bling bling.... Also the track is probably significantly cooler now and could lead to a loss of traction, even with teh gummy stuff that is on the surface.

As for feeling slow, don't. There are much slower cars then you out there....look at all those poor civics...
With more practice you can get your reaction time down, and get the feel on how to keep the rubber sticking.
Yeah my first time @ E-town in Sept. I could only pull out a 14.69@95mph (franken only)
I was having severe traction issues all night( my alignment was off/needed a rotation on my potenza's)
Hopefully this spring w/bpipe/pulley and better rubber I can get in the low 14's
w/some practice-

We should get together and ride deep in E-town(I was the only Max runnin that night....
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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Thats still a good run. Good Job!!
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:12 AM
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how would i find a track in my area?
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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I was really hoping to do at least a 14.4xx, but considering it was my first time ever on a track and I've only been driving stick a year, I did pretty decent like u guys said.

I was getting worried about my MAF the whole time though. At those high rpm's the Max sounds like a bat out of hell with just an intake....it survived the ordeal luckily and I can't wait for next season to start. I'm hooked now!!!
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PearlWhtMaX2000
how would i find a track in my area?
Go to this website.
http://www.raceroom.com/tracks/ma.html
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADMAX
A 14.6 is not to bad. I ran today at Fayetteville dragstrip and pulled a 14.3@97mph. My 60ft wasn't to bad, but wasn't to good either at 2.38. Anyway I need some work on my launches and I should be in the mid to high 13's then. Right now I'm running around with my damn SES light on because of the Stillen headers little black box not working. So here in a few weeks I should have that problem fixed, plus I'll have a Greddy E-manage installled to fix my problem with my air to fuel ratio being way off. That will most defiently put me in the 13's easy......I hope.
whoa you drove all the way to fayetteville dragway from GA. Im assuming in fayetteville NC? If so thats the track I ran my 13.72 @ 99.7 on
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DJSCIASCIA
I was really hoping to do at least a 14.4xx, but considering it was my first time ever on a track and I've only been driving stick a year, I did pretty decent like u guys said.

I was getting worried about my MAF the whole time though. At those high rpm's the Max sounds like a bat out of hell with just an intake....it survived the ordeal luckily and I can't wait for next season to start. I'm hooked now!!!
Slow poke

Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADMAX
Yeah, I know, but to me if Blublu2k2 and Emax02 can do it with less mods, then why can't I. Plus my only reason for not making it into the 13's today was because my launch sucked. My air/fuel is really f'ed up bad and the SES light is not helping me either. So trust me the E-manage should help me out tremendously and with the right launch and more practise in finding the right rpm's to shift at to get the most power, the 13's should be mine. Getting below Blublu2k2's 13.7 is going to be real difficult though. All I can do is try though.
I don't know, man. That 2.3 60' is hurting you, I wouldn't expect to drop a whole .5-.6 seconds just by dropping your 60' a bit. Seeing that you're only getting 97mph, you're going to need more like 99-100mph traps to get higher 13s. I've run a few lower 14.4s@98-99mph with 2.3 60 foots and I know I have the power to get 13s, but it's going to take slicks to get there. Anything lower than a 2.1 60' is going to require shorter slicks. Street tires can only do so much. For you to go from a 14.3@97 to a 13.9@97 is going to require at least a low 2.0 60'.

I also don't believe that E-manage is going to help you at all seeing that others have experimented with it on the dyno with the Stillen headers and it didn't do anything.

But like you said, all you can do is try.


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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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whoa you drove all the way to fayetteville dragway from GA. Im assuming in fayetteville NC? If so thats the track I ran my 13.72 @ 99.7 on
No, I didn't know there was a dragstrip there. I was visiting a friend of mine at Ft. Bragg and happened to see the sign for it when I was coming into town. I'm pretty sure that my 60ft is what was holding me back. Plus like I said on my dyno runs a couple of weeks ago, I saw that my A/F ratio is way off. It's 14.5/1 at 2,500rpm and slowly drops until around 3,500 where it raises back up to 14.5/1 and then at 5500rpm it takes a nose dive and falls to 11.5/1. I'm either going to get a Greddy E-manage or the TS Ecu to see if it'll fix it. I'm going to call and talk to TS today. Also my SES light keeps popping on. Hopefully I'll be in the 13's after that. I need to feather the clutch though when I launch, because each time I started off I would bog. Anyway hopefully I can get close to your time. By the way did you run yet with the NOS?
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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No, I didn't know there was a dragstrip there. I was visiting a friend of mine at Ft. Bragg and happened to see the sign for it when I was coming into town. I'm pretty sure that my 60ft is what was holding me back. Plus like I said on my dyno runs a couple of weeks ago, I saw that my A/F ratio is way off. It's 14.5/1 at 2,500rpm and slowly drops until around 3,500 where it raises back up to 14.5/1 and then at 5500rpm it takes a nose dive and falls to 11.5/1. I'm either going to get a Greddy E-manage or the TS Ecu to see if it'll fix it. I'm going to call and talk to TS today. Also my SES light keeps popping on. Hopefully I'll be in the 13's after that. I need to feather the clutch though when I launch, because each time I started off I would bog. Anyway hopefully I can get close to your time. By the way did you run yet with the NOS?
not yet...but soon
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Ok, I fixed my first post because my mph was off by one. Anyway here's what I did.

0.534---Reaction
2.39----60ft
6.245---33 ft
9.386---1/8 et
78.01---1/8 mph
12.06---1000 et
14.36---1/4 et
98.06---1/4 mph
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ToYLeT902
Slow poke


I knew I could rely on you for words of encouragement....

Long time no see Johnny boy.
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADMAX
Yeah, I know, but to me if Blublu2k2 and Emax02 can do it with less mods, then why can't I. Plus my only reason for not making it into the 13's today was because my launch sucked. My air/fuel is really f'ed up bad and the SES light is not helping me either. So trust me the E-manage should help me out tremendously and with the right launch and more practise in finding the right rpm's to shift at to get the most power, the 13's should be mine. Getting below Blublu2k2's 13.7 is going to be real difficult though. All I can do is try though.
Best of luck to you, I hope you do!

BTW, one of the biggest contributors of speed will be the weather conditions. I have seen a difference of .4 seconds just because it was more humid one day. Also I wish I could have ran my Camaro at sea level, that car felt like it had 40 more hp when I drove it to Cali.
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