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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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DDE Lightning™ --- | STRIKES | |\/|@\/||\/|@

LithiuMax's Ride, he'll be giving his idea of what he thinks of his setup later.


Both Headlight HID and High Beams on - rings still visible

HID on, rings still visible

No headlights on <-- YES, no headlights ON



We will begin taking pre-orders for these on the site tomorrow @ $149 Introductory price. Post introductory is $179.

Here are the benefits of this product:

1) Specific sized rings for both low and high beam
2) No drilling into headlight - no drilling period
3) No cutting
4) No light boxes
5) 10X as bright as LED, still visible during the day from 200' away
6) 6500K - almost perfect match to HID
7) Price.
8) Ease of install
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 01:33 AM
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Haha, you and I are on at the same times.. that's damn weird. And you beat me to the posting of this.. bastard!

In all seriousness, these things are off the hook. IMHO, they look way better in real life, so if you think the pictures look nice, you will be amazed if you see them with your own eyes in real life. They are very bright - way more bright than I thought they would be. They are easily seen with the HID's on, as you can see from the pics (I will post more pics tomorrow). The installation was a breeze (Matt really knows his product and his way around electrics and such), and if I had to do it on my own I am sure that I would be able to. Like Matt said, there are no moving parts, no drilling, no saudering (sp?), nothing of the sort of things that might make you think twice about this. I had them on for about 5 hours while I was out, and I got a silly amount of head turns from random people, and HUGE compliments from my friends (with more to come, I'm sure). Really awesome product. Thanks a lot for the great deal and good conversation, Matt.. and for making me the first person in the US to own these sweet DDE's.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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So how are these installed?
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by maximilion
So how are these installed?
very carefully
J/K - you pull the headlights out, bake them @ 200 degrees for 20 minutes pull them apart, put the rings on, put the headlights back in the oven, put them together, put back into the car, splice 4 wires, done.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by umnitza
bake them @ 200 degrees for 20 minutes pull

Does a hair-dryer work?


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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 02:52 AM
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 03:15 AM
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This guide is somewhat similar to the write-up for this mod, except no drilling this time.



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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 03:36 AM
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So how do you run the wires through the headlight without drilling holes?
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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So how do you run the wires through the headlight without drilling holes?

Great price guys!
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:30 AM
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awsome, how long does the introductory price last?
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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this is an awesome deal on an awesome product i want in but im worried as soon a i put this in my headlights will get stolen again


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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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so you need the whole kit to make them white???
i can't just change the bulb???
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 07:23 AM
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Nice Those are the best looking Angel Eyes. Gotta get those.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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They look extremely clean, I wish I still had my 2k2 Lights.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by umnitza
LithiuMax's Ride, he'll be giving his idea of what he thinks of his setup later.


Both Headlight HID and High Beams on - rings still visible

HID on, rings still visible

No headlights on <-- YES, no headlights ON



We will begin taking pre-orders for these on the site tomorrow @ $149 Introductory price. Post introductory is $179.

Here are the benefits of this product:

1) Specific sized rings for both low and high beam
2) No drilling into headlight - no drilling period
3) No cutting
4) No light boxes
5) 10X as bright as LED, still visible during the day from 200' away
6) 6500K - almost perfect match to HID
7) Price.
8) Ease of install

You say no drilling period so how you run wires to work.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Well, the way these work is pretty simply that they have very thin gauge power wires, they run out the back of the low beam side - HID - and the cap for the low beam side just presses on top of them.

Unfortunately that price won't last until AFTER all the product arrives. Huh?

Well, since LithiuMax's car was a prototype, we have literally the abiilty to make 4 more prototypes and that's it. So, we're doing the following:

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1) Pre-order @ $149
2) Receipt of product will be sometime between Christmas & Jan 10th. This is because we had no idea which sizing was required to make it work with the products we have.
3) There is literally NO modifications to the headlight at ALL. AND, they can be removed with NO adverse affects to it as well if you decide to get rid of the car and sell the unit.
4) Finally, there is no upgrade path from the DDE Gen V to the new ones. We will offer you a private SPECIAL deal, but not an upgrade path.

The DEADLINE for $149 is Dec. 12th.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Happy Holidays
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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umm sorry im not sure what this means:

*Minimal Cold Climate Startup difficulty

means it wont work if its cold?

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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No, it means they will be slower to immediately fire up in the cold. Sometimes taking up to 5 minutes to reach FULL brightness.
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No, it means they will be slower to immediately fire up in the cold. Sometimes taking up to 5 minutes to reach FULL brightness.
When I started my car today, they took about 20 seconds to light up bright, so I think that is what the cold startup "difficulty" is.. not much of a difficulty
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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wanna take a picture
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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I would have.. but I was running to work. And now I'm at work.. sucks ***. I will have pics up at about 6:30 tonight.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by umnitza
No, it means they will be slower to immediately fire up in the cold. Sometimes taking up to 5 minutes to reach FULL brightness.
ooo cool, gotcha
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so if u open up the headlights... and for some reason later on moisture starts building up inside ur headlight housing due to bad sealing (which will most likely screw up our HIDs)... do u guys have some sort of guarantee against this? like u will replace our HIDs? that would really be my only concern... it's a great price and everything. but i dont wanna risk blowing my HIDs for it....

i kno a lot of people who have done this and months later had their HIDs blow... they later had to pay to replace the whole headlight unit which cost them a grip.....
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Wow, someone has been reading too many mystery novels and reality TV shows

J/K.

We give you no express warranty and frankly have NEVER heard of anyone blowing up their HID due to moisture.

Let me explain how your HID system works:

1) It's a BULB - like any other bulb - if you see moisture in the headlight, don't turn on the bulb.

2) It's a Ballast and Ignitor - the ignitor is inside the low beam side, you can see it, it's a small softer plastic box. The ballast is that big metal box. Both of those together provide you hot-restrike AND over current protection - aka when you have a problem with the HID, it will auto-shut off.

3) When you receive your lights from the factory, you think they are permanently sealed? So what happens when you take out a bulb? Oops, no more hermetically sealed chamber. Not that there is one to begin with because ALL headlights built today have a port for air to escape out of and into the headlight - and moisture as well.

4) If you are particularly worried, and there is no reason not to be really, it's complicated work, then before put it all back together, use LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of glue/silicone in the seams to make sure you get a good reseat during reheat <-- Rhymes
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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BTW - who do you know that did our modification for Generation V, and had this happen to them?

I've heard of not one account, and believe me, our customers complain about everything from getting dust inside their headlight after install to being unhappy that the glue is visible in the tiniest of crevices.

So, I would imagine we would have heard about it.

Our instructions are quite detailed
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Yeah, I know what you're saying. Unfortunately, I dont think umnitza would be responsible for the HIDs. If there is something wrong with the angel eyes itself, they'll probably replace with a new one, but not the HIDs. It would be great if someone professional can install the angel eyes for me.


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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by umnitza
ALL headlights built today have a port for air to escape out of and into the headlight - and moisture as well.

Really? Then if you have no moisture originally, you'll have moisture later because of the port?


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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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The port is there, hence there was no drilling involved to run the wires through.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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No, that's not what I'm saying.

Because of that port, the headlights equalize the environment to prevent moisture. Very much like a rainy cold night, when you have your windows up and no defroster

If you pop open the window a bit, your windows don't "fog" up - aka condensate
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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LithiuMax - actually, we ran them straight out your HID opening, the cap sealed them back up

Remember, these wires are TINY
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Ahh.. gotcha. I was too busy repeatedly hittin my head on the hanging bike...
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by umnitza
BTW - who do you know that did our modification for Generation V, and had this happen to them?

I've heard of not one account, and believe me, our customers complain about everything from getting dust inside their headlight after install to being unhappy that the glue is visible in the tiniest of crevices.

So, I would imagine we would have heard about it.

Our instructions are quite detailed
not on a maxima... but i know several people with acura tl-s's who have tried to clear their headlight housings... and because of a bad seal later on... they had their HIDs blow (and by blow, i didn't mean explode... i meant that the light went out...and wouldn't work even with new bulbs later on... so enough jokes about that)....this is the kind of thing i'm wondering about.... and as for the ports that u mentioned... it doesn't cause for moisture to get inside the headlight housing itself, whereas if u took apart the headlight and sealed it incorrectly, it would cause for a lot of water to get inside whenever u wash ur car or when it rained.... there's a big difference between the two.

so back to my original question.... what kind of guarantee do i have that it will not mess up my HIDs in the case of bad sealing?

sorry for the long post but i'm really interested in doing this... and i wanna be absolutely sure that this will be safe... seein as how my friends had to spend big bucks just to get their headlights in working order.....
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by skandalouz

so back to my original question.... what kind of guarantee do i have that it will not mess up my HIDs in the case of bad sealing?

sorry for the long post but i'm really interested in doing this... and i wanna be absolutely sure that this will be safe... seein as how my friends had to spend big bucks just to get their headlights in working order.....
hmm well maybe acura's HID's suck... and i really doubt that umnitza will replace lights because YOU sealed them incorrectly, and i think this is an amazing price for such a product....hehe that and a remote starter are my christmas presents

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Ahh.. gotcha. I was too busy repeatedly hittin my head on the hanging bike...
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by skandalouz
not on a maxima... but i know several people with acura tl-s's who have tried to clear their headlight housings... and because of a bad seal later on... they had their HIDs blow (and by blow, i didn't mean explode... i meant that the light went out...and wouldn't work even with new bulbs later on... so enough jokes about that)
like I said, this has nothing to do with our product or how YOU would work with it. The ONLY reason it would "blow" is they would destroy their internal wiring and connections. Electrical systems are surprisingly simply. They don't like water, and they don't like being shaken

....this is the kind of thing i'm wondering about.... and as for the ports that u mentioned... it doesn't cause for moisture to get inside the headlight housing itself, whereas if u took apart the headlight and sealed it incorrectly, it would cause for a lot of water to get inside whenever u wash ur car or when it rained.... there's a big difference between the two.

Actually, not true. Because in order for your headlight to not condensate, it must be a 2 way moisture channel. When very cold, it must help get moisture out of the headlight, when very hot, it must help get a little moisture inside. Otherwise, your headlights would just wilt and yellow over time. <-- generalization, but the metaphor works

so back to my original question.... what kind of guarantee do i have that it will not mess up my HIDs in the case of bad sealing?
OUR guarantee is that you get good instructions. For example, what kind of guarantee does Nissan give you for driving over a curb and destroying your wheels? It seems everyone is out to blame someone else for their own mistakes these days. If I f*** up a headlight, I pay for a new one. Just ask someone here on the board. I tried on his headlight, destroyed it, bought him a new one. Why? BECAUSE I DID IT. I TOOK RESPONSIBILITY.

sorry for the long post but i'm really interested in doing this... and i wanna be absolutely sure that this will be safe... seein as how my friends had to spend big bucks just to get their headlights in working order.....

Better in the end to spend a little more and have a professional do it for you
So, in the end, I hope this answers your questions.
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BTW - we have installers in just about every part of the country now:

Florida
New England
Chicago
All of California N/S
St. Louis
New Orleans
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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If I preorder now, will you charge my cc right away, or will you charge it once the item ships?
Oh, and they look great.



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