My 02 GLE didn't have the HLSD option. Does Nissan do a post production install of this unit? I wanna squash some of this torque steer.

 

all GLEs are auto. HLSD is for 6spds only...

 

Why does the transmission matter? I'm not very knowledgeable about how it works exactly.

 

ok, so answer the question for me ...my 6spd i dind't get the LSD option. can i add it?

 

im sure you could...but its gotta cost you! why did you get a 6spd and no HLSD? the nissan HLSD is like the Quaife...only as an option on a 6spd it was $399. if you can buy it from nissan and put it in yourself (i'll help if you want) for that price..GET IT NOW! the Quaife diff costs over $1K

 

You could probably add the TCS (traction control system) for a large sum of $$$$$. They would not offer this option without a lot of other add-ons in a big package deal for the 02s. I have the auto SE and I don't like the torque steer either. I had to learn how to keep the car straight when I punch it.

 

i thought all autos came with TCS? (traction control system)? either way 6spds and autos are A LOT different...

 

Mine didn't come with TCS. Don't even remember it being offered which is strange. May have been part of the Meridian(?) package. Yeah you're right about the differences in the types of trannies, but I was wondering what the specific reasons were. It seems odd that since both share the same platform, FWD, that the option would be limited to only the manual. Does it have something to do with the autos torque converter?

 

when there is only 1 6spd left on the lot, and they're giving you a good price, you wouldn't hesitate. i sucked it up and figured i'd EVENTUALLY get it one day. i have no idea how to install but hell, if i get it, sure i'd want/need your help. would def. be a challenge.

 

It wouldn't be that hard to install, but paying for the LSD unit is going to totally suck...

 

Why not pick one up at a junkyard if you can find one? QS you said it wouldnt be too hard to install? I take this as meaning you dont have to delve into the tranny too far to install it? Is there any info you can point me in the direction of that would give me an idea of how difficult/time consuming it would be to install the HSLD? I have really been considering getting an LSD put in becuase at WOT I am getting complete wheelspin (no hop) when I hit about 4500rpm in 1st. Tires would probably be good but they can only go so far. If I can find a junkyard HLSD and convince my brother to help me put it in it should turn out much cheaper than getting a full set of good sticky tires.

 

The HLSD isn't going to fix that bgates.

 

Are both tires spinning? Or just one? The LSD would help, but it's really the tires and throttle application that is causing the problem...

I added an LSD unit to my Contour SVT (Quaife), and it only took me a day and a half (about 8 total hours)...

 

Just one... on a dry road. The HLSD should help exactly in that situation or there is no real reason to get it. The throttle application is not the problem because the point is to put as much power to the ground without wheelspin. I would figure that the HLSD would be much more effective at keeping traction that simply another set of stickier tires. My reasoning is thus; if both tires have power instead of one so you effectively have twice the amount of surface area. Twice the surface area should would give you twice the grip except that I know it isnt true but it is close. I am not sure about this but my guess is that even though the potenzas arent that great no all season tire of the same or similar size could produce twice the grip.

 

You wanna know what is frustrating? Spending 15 minutes writing up a good rant and then hitting submit only to have the forums webserver not respond. Hit back and the text box is empty...

Oh well... what do you do? I guess retype an abridged version.

Real quick... it should be illegal for Nissan to sell a 6 speed VQ35 max without a LSD.

First off, in the snow I have no pulling traction. Yes, the Potenza suck terrbily in rain and snow. But when I'm driving in 4th grear at 2k rpms and I push down the accelerator a bit and start spinning that is not a good sign.

Even in dry, summer conditions, getting a good launch is a work of art. It takes great skill and clutch control to drop the engine power even as low as 2.5k into the tires without breaking traction and just spinning out. Also trying to pull out into traffic is difficult as the car can't do anything but break a tire loose if the steering isn't straight. I usually pull out slowly and after the car has straigtened out and I've shifted into 2nd will I then punch it.

For I short time I obsessed over getting a limited slip diff added to my car. But seeing how it would be ~$1000 part and labor would cost at least that I've quickly given up. My understanding is the tranny needs to be removed for the install. So instead I plan to just hang on to my car for another year or so and trader her in for a G35 coupe 6mt or manual RX8 or 330Ci or something along those lines. In any case, getting a rear drive car, but more importantly something with a LSD... which come standard on the 6mt and manual RX8. Don't know on the Bimmer, but I'm guessing it's an option. In any case, with as much torque as the VQ35 puts out, it needs a LSD or AWD or both to be able to fully deliver the power to the tires for maximum acceleration and effientcy. Why the 6 speed max doesn't come with one standard I have no idea. A $400 option??? my I wish I would have known at the time.

In any case... there is my rant. Love my max... accept for it's lack of traction. And sadly, that is enough for me to want to get rid of it.

 

posted that time.

 

RX8 has a stock (from Mazda) carbon fiber driveshaft! That ******' rocks! I do love the way that car drives...it might be my playtoy for next year...

 

Unfortuanately it was impossible to find an 02 6sp HLSD with the color/options I wanted...

Are they planning on making a Quaife unit anytime?

 

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Order it? That's what I did with mine.

 

sticker price was 27k. all 2k3's on the lot...any special orders would be a 2k3. mine was the last 2k2 on the lot. just because it was 2k2, they were giving me a $6k drop in price (5+1cashback).....that's 21. with 12 miles, and everything i wanted (meaning i wanted nothing at all, no leather, no bose, NOTHING except sunroof, and they had exactly that)

it was like they had me in a corner...i coudln't say no....it was either that or special order and work a deal STARTING from 27-28k

back to topic...i'll start my calls...i will find an LSD.

 

Oh... and for the record... HLSD was not offered until MID 2002 production. I have a 2002 manufactured in 10/01 and HLSD was not available until 02/02.

So there are a few of us, myself included, who didn't have the $399 option to have it included in their car, but would like to be able to add it at a reasonable cost.

 

Stillen catalog, page 47:

Vitek LSD. Core charge required....so perhaps it's within reason to order one up, as long as you get them your old unit. There's no price listed, someone would have to call....and since it's from stillen, it probably ain't cheap.

I can't punch my car in 1st gear at any speed without breaking the tire(s) loose.

 

I actually emailed Nissan this very question and the answer I got from them is no, they do not install the HLSD after the fact.

 

Actually it was available in 12/01 production and later. Those cars didn't hit the lots until around Feb 02.

 

Does the helical lsd require a bigger case? We know the Quaife clutch type fits into the open diff's case. But the 3-gen VLSD tranny cases have a buldge to accomodate the assembly. You might not be able to transfer the HLSD into a non HLSD tranny if the cases are different.

 

phantom grip also makes inexpensive LSDs. Im going to put one in my SE-R the stock viscous LSD is shot to hell..

 

I spent quite a bit of time on this issue before purchasing my '03 6sp without the HLSD. The fact is, HLSD was the only option I wanted and to get it, I had to purchase a fully loaded '02 for $3500 more with options I didn't want just to get the $400 HLSD option that I did want. I probably spent more time driving both cars back to back more extensively than anyone on this site. I can say with certainty that coming out of corners or starting from a stop in turns, there is a difference you can definitely feel and in those situations I wish I had it. But going in a straight line, there is NOT much of a difference. It will probably not affect your 0-60 or 1/4 mile times in a noticeable way. There is evidence to support this. If you look at the magazine test times for the SRT-4 Neon, the newer car with LSD added does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds versus last year's model without it which does it in 5.4 seconds. Also assuming the Car and Driver's test of the Max in Oct. '02 was fully loaded and had HLSD, it did 0-60 it 6.0 seconds flat while the Altima V6 which doesn't come with one as an option does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.(Again, I'm assuming Car and Driver had a fully loaded Max). I can also say from owning an Altima that had VLSD, it is a definite benefit in the snow and rain. That said, I haven't had any problems with my Max in the snow. You just have to finesse it a little more to get it going.
Do I wish I had HLSD? Absolutely! But with good driving skills, you can get by just fine without it in most situations.

 

my thoughts exactly jeff....well iw as thinking this before, but then kinda removed when people were discussing as if the tranny's were the same. dave's at lunch right now but i'll be calling him up in a bit to see what he knows about the trannies.

 

I don't think so. Suposedly the case is the same with both trannies.

 

UPDATE

spoke to daveb about. he's confirmed that the trannies ARE DIFFERENT. different tranny casings, so you can't just pop one in. you wanna put it on, you'll have to get your hands on a full hlsd tranny. and no, he doesn't have any.
just updating. good luck with whatever ideas you come up with.