Shift_VQ

Everyone has always said on the org that a frankencar intake with an apexi filter does the most for power gains. Im wondering if I am losing power with this intake because its pulling in hotter air than the stock intake did since it sits right in the engine bay(when its not snowing at least). So Wouldnt something like an injen intake produce the most gains for our cars?

fishhouse

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YES, pulling in HOT air will produce less power gains than COLD air.

i thought an Injen was also a hot-air intake - and was just like the Frankencar. i think only Place Racing makes a true cold air intake for the max (excluding a OSCAI, of course).

any intake will likely result in a low-end power loss while giving high end gains - that is just the way an intake works.

BiggD23

Frankencar is considered a WAI, I think Injen is also. I've seen Injen called a CAI but like fishhouse said Place Racing makes the only true CAI for our cars and it requires drilling a hole to install it. Injen just pulls the air from lower down in the engine bay, right near the radiator.

KLOOGY

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There is nothing CAI about the Injen, even though they claim it is.....Fishouse said it all : Place racing is the only true CAI.

fahad_600

what is OSCAI & WAI

skalberti

My Cattman pulls air from in front of the front left tire right behind the headlight and fog light.

Shift_VQ

so a injen is worse than a frankencar because air is hotter near the radiator? and a PR CAI requires you to drill a hole but will likely produce the most gains?

KLOOGY

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Thats correct, but Cattman basically copied the exact setup PR makes.

BiggD23

See that sentence under your username? The one that reads, "I need to read the FAQ and IMPORTANT threads before posting a question." Well, I'm pretty sure both of these are covered in the FAQ. But here ya go...

OSCAI - Ooglie stock cold air intake (look in FAQ for more detailed description)
CAI - Cold air intake
WAI - Warm air intake

fahad_600

Thanks,

03BlkSETE

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I dug this up for you guys that don't have search. This thread by studman is one of the most informative on the subject. Basically it gives a direct comparison of stock vs PR CAI vs WAI. It's good reading so I won't ruin the ending.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=wai+dyno

MannyNJ2k2max

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Other than the growl the franken did nothing for me until i added my b pipe....

Makes sense how you expect all that extra air to go- its like drowning you engine-

Ironlord

Dear God No, so many people have so many mistaken assumptions...

1. Intakes DO NOT lose power on the low end. They simply make the majority of their power in the upper rpms, thereby making it seem to you that they "lose" power. but they DON'T.

2. And intakes without a b-pipe can not "drown" your engine. Just intake make plenty of dyno proven power. Now, if you unrestrict the exhaust as well as intake, yes, you will see additional gains. These mods compliment each other more so than either one alone, but you do get gains from either alone as well.

fishhouse

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mine DID! ok, maybe it didn't technically lose anything - the power was simply shifted. but either way - EQUALS THE SAME THING - less low end grunt off the line!

MannyNJ2k2max

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I never said they lost power- I went to the track both with and without my intake and saw no increase in trap

By adding the bpipe now the intake is not so loud and my car accelerates better than without it- in all rpm' s

But intakes primarily get more hp out of your mods , not so much stock

Besides the FrankenCar dynos were taken w/ a prototype exhaust