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Old 01-12-2004, 01:45 AM
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Triple Gauge Pod on a NA car

OK I know pretty much all of you say a triple gauge pod on a NA car is RICE but I think it's good to keep vital info on your engine. So my choices so far are oil pressure, Trans temp, and still trying to decide on the last one. And people say the A/F gauges isn't accuate and really don't like it. I am thinking voltmeter to monitor volts while car is off and using stereo. EGT, Fuel press, and boost are mainly for FI cars. I am looking at the Autometer C2's so choices are limited.
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I don't think gauges are rice if your car is NA. Just cause someone is not forced induction doesn't mean he shouldn't monitor his engine.
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I don't think gauges are rice if your car is NA. Just cause someone is not forced induction doesn't mean he shouldn't monitor his engine.
Oil Pressure, Water Temp, and your tranny temp gauge will be fine
 
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Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
Oil Pressure, Water Temp, and your tranny temp gauge will be fine

You could also get a voltage gauge.
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Yeah, an accurate voltage guage would be nice. I know that tranny temp is a big deal on the 3800 GM's like Regals GS's and Grand Prix's...
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doesn't seem very practical in N/A cars..... in the sense that if ur N/A, what are the chances that your tranny temp or oil pressure will be too high...and why would u really need to monitor it.... for FI cars, there is a good chance that u will overheat ur tranny or whatnot.. and so measuring it is like a recommended safety precaution
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An accurate voltage gauge and an oil pressure gauge are gauges I really want in my car, regardless of RICE or not.
It's that 3rd one I'm stuck on... (M/T so I don't need a trans temp gauge), don't think oil temp would make sense, and I don't care too much about coolant temp, I have a temp gauge already. And if I REALLY wanted to know engine coolant temperature, I'd bust out my Palm + OBD-II scantool cable and read it right off the ECU. Manifold pressure isn't something I care about too much, although maybe it's worth having (identify possible valve problems down the road, etc.). A/F I don't care about.
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sorry for the dumb Question but whats N/A or FI?
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N/A = naturally aspirated
FI = forced induction (supercharger, turbocharger, nitrous)
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
OK I know pretty much all of you say a triple gauge pod on a NA car is RICE but I think it's good to keep vital info on your engine. So my choices so far are oil pressure, Trans temp, and still trying to decide on the last one. And people say the A/F gauges isn't accuate and really don't like it. I am thinking voltmeter to monitor volts while car is off and using stereo. EGT, Fuel press, and boost are mainly for FI cars. I am looking at the Autometer C2's so choices are limited.
my car is returned to NA and I still have the gauges on. EGT and fuel pressure are pretty stable and not worth for monitoring. Some A/F gauges are accurate, like the greddy or Tomei where the have an additional O2 sensor. The bottom line is : you need an additional O2 sensor for the A/F guage in order to obatin an accurate reading during open loop (WOT). Tapping wire into your own O2 sensor is not going to help monitoring open loop operation.

oil pressure is not required, IMO. you have an oil pressure sender already and it will levetell you if your oil l is low or not. I dont think you need to know the exact reading of oil pressure. I spent that money on an oil cooler instead an oil pressure gauge because less heat = less pressure.

tranny temp is good to have. I have seen it reads between <100F and >210F.

voltmeter is good to monitor MAF return voltage. I used a multimeter and tap a wire to MAF to test the MAF voltage. It tells you if your MAF is reading good amount of air. high voltage = higher fuel injector duty cycles.

two gauges are enough - I cant think of a third one for NA car either.
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Originally Posted by [maxi-overdose]
my car is returned to NA and I still have the gauges on. EGT and fuel pressure are pretty stable and not worth for monitoring. Some A/F gauges are accurate, like the greddy or Tomei where the have an additional O2 sensor. The bottom line is : you need an additional O2 sensor for the A/F guage in order to obatin an accurate reading during open loop (WOT). Tapping wire into your own O2 sensor is not going to help monitoring open loop operation.

oil pressure is not required, IMO. you have an oil pressure sender already and it will levetell you if your oil l is low or not. I dont think you need to know the exact reading of oil pressure. I spent that money on an oil cooler instead an oil pressure gauge because less heat = less pressure.

tranny temp is good to have. I have seen it reads between <100F and >210F.

voltmeter is good to monitor MAF return voltage. I used a multimeter and tap a wire to MAF to test the MAF voltage. It tells you if your MAF is reading good amount of air. high voltage = higher fuel injector duty cycles.

two gauges are enough - I cant think of a third one for NA car either.
And that's why I wish they would of made a dual gauge pod too.
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you can always make your own. Look at the molded dual gauge pod in my car(Done by nvmymax2..)...
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Originally Posted by rob van dam
you can always make your own. Look at the molded dual gauge pod in my car(Done by nvmymax2..)...

Yeah I asked him about making me one buy the cost was more then the triple. But I also wasn't thinking about the fact the triple will cost more with the other gauge. <- myself
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I really dont see a point. Its rice to me and it promotes racing. THen when you get beat, you will be more ashamed.
If the tranny temp rises, are you really gonna let your car take a break?
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
And that's why I wish they would of made a dual gauge pod too.
use the autometer gauge pod for 2nd gen eclipse.
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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2002se
If the tranny temp rises, are you really gonna let your car take a break?
I did.

it is just like EGT. you have to know when to let go off the pedal.
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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2002se
I really dont see a point. Its rice to me and it promotes racing. THen when you get beat, you will be more ashamed.
If the tranny temp rises, are you really gonna let your car take a break?
Maybe I want the attention. I don't care if I get beat.
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Originally Posted by [maxi-overdose]
I did.

it is just like EGT. you have to know when to let go off the pedal.
You were boosted at the time. Would you let off the pedal if you were N/A ?



And myownnismo, then go for it bro, just letting you know its rice if you didnt want that. You should go for an A/F guage, acuracy shouldnt matter cuz you cant adjust the fuel mixture anyways plus the guage looks nice, tranny temp and voltmeter. These are guages you would actually be able to benefit from.
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Yeah...I think it is ricey...but so what? It is your ride...do what you want. Put a boost gauge in there as far as I am concerned.
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Originally Posted by rob van dam
you can always make your own. Look at the molded dual gauge pod in my car(Done by nvmymax2..)...
...i like the custom naked ****** around your car...nice touch!
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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2002se
You were boosted at the time. Would you let off the pedal if you were N/A ?
yes~

It has nothing do to with boost. When you see high temperature in your tranny, you have to let go off the pedal.
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Heres something I thought of last night. What if you have the bose system? can you buy the pillers with the cutouts or are you on your own there? I'm not getting one, don't need one. Just curious.
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Custommaxima sells the 3 guage pod , but you have to make your own cutouts for the tweeter.
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I really dont see a point. Its rice to me and it promotes racing. THen when you get beat, you will be more ashamed.
If the tranny temp rises, are you really gonna let your car take a break?

I could school u all day long..but i have better time in my life.. you are and should be and u are
 
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Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
Oil Pressure, Water Temp, and your tranny temp gauge will be fine
If you feel an absolute need to have one, for looks, those would be the best guages to get. You will make use of them for sure. I have my 3 guage pod sitting here , but I wont put it on till I get my NX put in, when I get my Max back from Nissan.
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Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
I could school u all day long..but i have better time in my life.. you are and should be and u are
You're gonna school me? In what you f@ggot, your pos with your infamous teins? Or your lame intake of a mod. Dude, get a life, no one was talking to you and you're the one that should be slapped. Stop post whoring and say something positive for once. You are nothing but annoyance on this board, everyone hates you and youve been banned only about 389257209672697204976 times. So please, do me a favor, STFU and take your pos self outside, and get lost.
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For the autometer A/F meter you can get an optional O2 sensor for a better reading.
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Ya, if you dont mind spending the extra dough, by all means get that extra o2 sensor. Makes it much more accurate. My A/F gauge didn't read so well when I had it so i changed it to an EGT
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
For the autometer A/F meter you can get an optional O2 sensor for a better reading.
I need that ! Where can I get it ?
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Originally Posted by kloogy
I need that ! Where can I get it ?

www.optauto.com go into autometer then go down to bottom and see accesories click that and go to senders and sensors or got to this link. They have this in case your car has a wide-band O2 sensor which are cars don't. Of coarse I think this works like [maxi-overdose] has stated since you would wire directly to gauge and not through ECU.
http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...3796&last=3796
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It's rice, unless you have an insane stereo and absolutely need a voltmeter. Other than that, you don't need to monitor anything. But it's your car.....
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
www.optauto.com go into autometer then go down to bottom and see accesories click that and go to senders and sensors or got to this link. They have this in case your car has a wide-band O2 sensor which are cars don't. Of coarse I think this works like [maxi-overdose] has stated since you would wire directly to gauge and not through ECU.
http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...3796&last=3796
Yes it gets wires straight standalone to the guage. Gio. you need the EGT bung, not the o2 sensor, or both!
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You're gonna school me? In what you f@ggot, your pos with your infamous teins? Or your lame intake of a mod. Dude, get a life, no one was talking to you and you're the one that should be slapped. Stop post whoring and say something positive for once. You are nothing but annoyance on this board, everyone hates you and youve been banned only about 389257209672697204976 times. So please, do me a favor, STFU and take your pos self outside, and get lost.
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I hear someone at the Toyota Tacoma forums has a Bling Bling meter in his car, which is adjustable.
Every time someone posts a pic of a Tacoma truck that is in pristine condition, clean underneath or riced out, this guy adjusts his Bling Bling meter, takes a pic and posts it. That's a hoot!

We need the Rice Rice meter for ours... or maybe a drawn picture of the icon on its background
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Originally Posted by spirilis
I hear someone at the Toyota Tacoma forums has a Bling Bling meter in his car, which is adjustable.
Every time someone posts a pic of a Tacoma truck that is in pristine condition, clean underneath or riced out, this guy adjusts his Bling Bling meter, takes a pic and posts it. That's a hoot!

We need the Rice Rice meter for ours... or maybe a drawn picture of the icon on its background
I think I've seen that before. all you really have to do is modify a Autometer Air/Fuel gauge and then just give it the right voltage.
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also here are mine:
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/92Ma...s/PB120253.JPG

Oil Temp, Volts, and Air Fuel. I only got the AF because it was a good deal, and only really have it there for my passangers to play with. The only good it does is tell me when I'm in closed loop mode.

The oil temp is handy because believe it or not, our temp gauges are not that accurate, and it's nice to know where the engine is at (esp when testing stuff). The volt meter has come in handy during the winter months, I bought it because I plan on adding a stereo in the future.

Right now I just have it sitting in the DIN slot, I made the cardboard part inbetween classes one day a while ago. If I get the Zemulator I'll be selling all the gauges as I wont need them anymore
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Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
im still here ricer i know that u got by me and MANY others. IS GOOD 4 U IF UR INTO it..and u are.. when ur in NY let me know again
when the heck did i ever get owned by you? or anyone else? The only person ive ever got owned by was donkey and that was partial ownage. This is the first time talking to ur lame azz and you just got pwned. so stfu.

dude, speak english, i cant understand ur drunk azz.

and there goes that stupid comment again, "when your in NY bla bla"
dude, sit on it
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