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Old 01-27-2004, 08:07 PM
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Cam or not to cam that is the question.

Well, tax season has come again and good ole Uncle Sam has decided to give me a pretty decent return. My question is what should I spend my money on?I've done about all you can do N/A to my Maxima or at least anything that is known to work. I'm thinking of getting cams and a air/fuel controller or the TS Ecu. So what do you think or what other ideas do some of you have?
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To cam or not to cam? answer cam.



JWT cams 1050 from courtesy nissan
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:19 PM
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I'm thinking cams and A/F controller.
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cams with the TS ecu....they will reprogram it to cam spec
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Cams only kick in above 5000 RPMs or so on the 3.5 Altima dyno I saw. Go to nissanperformancemag.com for specs. However, if you want a nice VTEC like kick at high RPMs, go with the cams. There is no other way of putting on that kind of power. But its a lot of money money!!
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donkeys got some cams, and a ts flash, i dont know if he ever did dyno. I know someone with a max did... i think it was a nice gain throughout the RPM range
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get ts ecu i love mine and cams
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get both of them
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Old 01-28-2004, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WHEELMAN_03_SE
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Wow, $1050 is a lot cheaper than I've seen from anyone else. Thanks.
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Wow, $1050 is a lot cheaper than I've seen from anyone else. Thanks.

How much HP and kick for 1050$
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How much HP and kick for 1050$
around 16 hp

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Old 01-28-2004, 05:49 AM
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Is it really a vtec like kick or is it more through the whole range with those cams?

I would really like something with a broad range increase. And while we are on the subject of N/A cars.... anyone know a decent exaust that is QUIET?

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Originally Posted by RollinLow
Is it really a vtec like kick or is it more through the whole range with those cams?

I would really like something with a broad range increase. And while we are on the subject of N/A cars.... anyone know a decent exaust that is QUIET?

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not my fault man...
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Old 01-28-2004, 05:58 AM
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I know I know I was told already...

BTW thanks for not responding to my post

Anyone know if that kit is ever supposed to come out?
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Originally Posted by RollinLow
I know I know I was told already...

BTW thanks for not responding to my post

Anyone know if that kit is ever supposed to come out?
february 04 from sarona... will see!!
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:13 AM
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If you get cams be smart and do the retainers and springs that way when you get the ecu you can easily rev to 7500 rpm or even higher if you like.
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Old 01-28-2004, 08:08 AM
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How bout getting yourself some Nismo VQ35 heads?

http://www.performancenissanparts.co...roducts_id=311

NISMO VQ35 Heads 46cc Chamber
[11040RRZ30] $2,000.00



Click to enlarge
MSRP $2526.68 for Left and Right Head

These heads will increase the compression ratio of the VQ35DE

For a Normally Aspired motor these will greatly increase horsepower.

These heads require the use of VK45 Valves and Retainers, Nismo Highlift Springs, and Cams grinded out of the Nismo Blank Camshafts or NISMO, JWT Camshafts.
This kit includes the Right and Left head.

*we will be posting a photo of the NISMO Head next to a OE head soon so check back for updates!*
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Old 01-28-2004, 10:32 AM
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I still like these: http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/tomei1.html
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Old 01-28-2004, 10:44 AM
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I visited those sites does anyone have the full specs on the cams, stock included? I'm looking for durations at seat & 0.05", LSA and ICL?
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get cams and ecu with raised rev limiter and smoother curve. just cams and a/f would be cheaper but think about winding the engine up to 7500, sound would be sweet.
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Originally Posted by RollinLow
Is it really a vtec like kick or is it more through the whole range with those cams?

I would really like something with a broad range increase. And while we are on the subject of N/A cars.... anyone know a decent exaust that is QUIET?

Greek... you gotta stop teasing me with that sig pic

The cams I know of, the ones I saw the dyno for, kick in like VTEC. There is a slight loss of power in the lower RPMS, then the cams kick in big time. here's the dyno for you
Also, in regards to a quiet cat-back, I heard the new frankencar one is very nice...

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Old 01-28-2004, 05:08 PM
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So that Alty was pushing about 246 hp w/ the hotshot headers???
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Old 01-28-2004, 05:55 PM
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Thanks for the info on the cams... I may have to wait for a new maxima instead tho.

I just brought my car in (bought it 12 days ago) because of the slipping 1-2 shift, and the dealership says I need a new tranny.

They showed me the pan and the magnets were completely covered with debris.

It's fight time with these guys. Used car with 97k and they dont want to help me out. Have a 50/50 warrenty, but i told them that was not good enough since they sold me a car with a pre-existing condition.

This sux.
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:06 AM
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"but think about winding the engine up to 7500, sound would be sweet."

Yeah if parts hold together, are crank and rods forged if not might not want spin that high.

So no one knows what 0.05" durations, LSA or ICL are for these cams and the stock one?
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:37 AM
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Donkey hasn't installed his cams yet...but soon and please people is it really necessary to post your sig 4 times in the same thread?
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Old 01-29-2004, 09:12 AM
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Crank is and the engine can spin 8000rpm with STOCK cams. Some are even saying 9000rpm.




Originally Posted by MikeS
"but think about winding the engine up to 7500, sound would be sweet."

Yeah if parts hold together, are crank and rods forged if not might not want spin that high.

So no one knows what 0.05" durations, LSA or ICL are for these cams and the stock one?
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Old 01-29-2004, 09:31 AM
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So they're forged pieces then, right? If they're cast let me who is spinning that high I'll be sure to stand out of path of parts when it blows. Does anyone have anf information on the internals of these motors here or should be surfing another board?
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Crank is...rods aren't. Rods are 'blasted' or something that makes them stronger though.

Manufacturer tranny endurance tests run the VQ35 at 8000rpm for 300+ hours *SUPPOSEDLY*.

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So they're forged pieces then, right? If they're cast let me who is spinning that high I'll be sure to stand out of path of parts when it blows. Does anyone have anf information on the internals of these motors here or should be surfing another board?
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Old 01-29-2004, 10:11 AM
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Actually, per SAE document:
CONNECTING RODS – Connecting rods are usually cold coined to correct the deformation induced in the Isection by the heat treatment process. However, the VQ35DE connecting rods are made of vanadium steel, making the heat treatment process unnecessary. Isection deformation is corrected by hot coining to prevent deterioration of fatigue strength due to residual stress and deterioration of buckling strength due to dislocations. This improvement of I-section strength allows the sectional area of the connecting rod to be reduced for a weight saving.
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Wow steel rods from factory in a sports sedan, I'm impressed. Do you mind listing where you got this information, I'd really appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by MikeS
Wow steel rods from factory in a sports sedan, I'm impressed. Do you mind listing where you got this information, I'd really appreciate it.
You can buy them at: http://www.sae.org/servlets/index























































J/K...http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=SAE
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