even if it was a 30lb difference...that's a whopping .09% of weight loss...


that won't be noticable whatsoever on a street car

 

The butt dyno wouldn't notice but the clocks at the race track certainly do.

 

For a 4000 lb race car, the rule of thumb is for every 100 lbs, that is a tenth. And I believe for a 2000 lb car, it's more like 50lbs for every tenth.

In my personal experiences and calculations, around 80 lbs is my tenth. So like Kam said, 30lbs is not worth it to me, especially since you need to pay close to $500 for a CF hood. Dump a few grand in your car on stupid CF and you have a WHOPPING 75 lb weight reduction. lol Now if you have a full race car that needs to be light, then a full fiberglass body is what some are doing. But when does it stop being a Maxima and start being a kit car. Who knows.

I'd rather just gut my car for free.

 

I agree and that is why I don't have a CF hood. I am not willing to shell out for it. And right now I am heavy into the 'free' mod routine.

 

nice numbers SR... what octane gas were u running? instead of putting new rims and tires in the read could u put two donuts back there, all of the race cars that i have seen have 2 small azz tires in the back almost donut size.

 

wow, im jealous, i thought that wsa a typo at first

 

for not sending me a link.

 

13.1 with those mods listed my @ss he has more then hes saying. Good job getting that number though anyway you got it.

 

My auto runs a 13.5 with just an intake and exhaust, I don't have any problem believing it.

 

wow, great times.

 

I had a 2002 maxima and the dam thing was not faster then my 350 Z thats for sure and my Z ran bone stock 14.1. I also had alot more bolt ons then you guys also on my maxima. Im not knocking the maxima, but your claims seem hard to believe. Also whats the weather temp? What are you guys running in the artic or something, or are you guys riding on a frame without the body? Because i would sure love to know how you guys are making this car faster then the average org member with more bolt ons. Also JIME if you think your auto is running a 13.5 with just a intake and exhaust you need to post your time slip or dont even write that down.

 

Im not a maxima hater i LOVE the maxima and i feel greatly proud to drive my parents 2003 while i work on my Z. I just dont like how people state things without having proof.

 

Okay here is a pic of my timeslip and # with a pic of the car from that race which as you can see correspond. This picture was taken from the Fastpixs site who covered the race. (url below) Temp that day was 66 deg.

http://www.fastpixs.com/cgi-bin/stor...t10CSCS115.jpg

 

No, I took care of that this morning when I woke up.

Uhh... OK.

You had what stickers and LEDs? You obviously didn't have the same bolt ons or upgrades that I have or your car would have been faster.

I never claimed. I just did. And so did Jime. You're not the first hater and you probably won't be the last. I don't really care if you believe it or not.

I am not going to go through and re-type everything that has already been said. If you missed reading the appropriate info that isn't my concern. Jime and I have disclosed everything we've done to these cars. the only catch is that you may have to do a little digging around the site to find 100% of it. Most of waht we do is just ongoing discussions.

 

Left vs. Right...isn't your car on the Left?

 

Both Sr20 and Jime gave you proof. I believe very well that they both hit low 13's and mid 13's with there modifications. I give you my case and point, i am running an 02 auto max with a Intake / fullcat-back 2.25" exhaust with synthetic in the engine and tranny, i run against my friends 1995 Mazda Mx-6 who just swapped in a Mx-6 JSpec 220 HP engine vs(170 hp stock motor he use to have),no other mods besides his engine,his car also weighs around 2750-2800lbs, he is running consitent 13.9XX in the 1/4 miles, i watched him do this many times at the track. Yet when we race on the street i always pull on him a full car length and keep that full car length, now i am not going to say my car runs a 13.xxxx but it has him always scratching his head and saying to himself , ......how the hell???
And im just intake/exhaust/synthetics....

I am to chicken **** to run at the track fearing i will freeze up, but one of these days i will muster the umpf to go.

Hats off to the both of you , JIME and SR20! Time to show the boys at my barbershop these clips/runs once and for all and to shut them up indefinitely!

 

i thought that real quick, but its when your looking at the track from the end, not the beginning. plus JIIMEs car is 863 on his window, and 863 on the time slip is in the right lane.

 

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I guess my 13.63@101.5 with a 2.05 60' in my 2002 Automatic is BS also.

 

That pic is not of that run. I just copied it off the fastpix site to show that the number on my car was the number on the timeslip, from that day.

I did 9 runs that day, 7 were in the right lane and 2 in the left.

 

Jime, i see you are running Kosei K-1s. are they 15s? if so whats the offset and size of the slick. thanks

 

15x7', 38 offset, 22x8x15 M/T slicks.

 

I don't see why the disbelief...comparing SR20DENs car or JIMEs extensive track visits to the "average" 2K2+ 1/4-mile newbie/occasional visiter is STUPID.

It just goes to show that a 350Z with the RWD advantage can do better then your 14.1, if you could drive and set up the car properly.

 

Wow this thread started back in March so...SR20DEN any luck with shaving any more time off your runs, you've had over half a year, any progress? Whats the good word?

 

Jime, i was looking around to find what your setup was when you ran the 13.5 sec pass but can't find them. Would you mind posting them for me.

Thanks
Chris

 

haters....

 

Drag slicks on 15" light weight rims, drop resistor mod, Tokico Illuminas, intake, HS headers, full cat back, tuned AFR via SAFC, just to get you started.

His auto + smaller rims helps his gearing.

He's got some kind of coldER/ram-air type setup and skinnies in the rear at least in this run:

 

Thanks bro

 

lol, nice you guys are cool in my book and thats alot coming form the 3rd gens

 

Hey quit stealin my thunder

Thats really all, except for that day I didn't have the skinnies on the rear and was running the stock muffler as you can see in the picture.

The intake is just a piece of 3" aluminum with a 45 deg bend from Vibrant Performace that I cut and drill for my nitrous nozzle, attach the MAF, adaptor and filter, real simple.

The gizmo on the manifold is my Supercharger. Actually is a rad fan that I adapted from my Son's DSM to cool the engine between runs. Very effective.

Check my homepage for anything I have missed. I use the same stuff N/A as with the juice except no race gas. I even use 2 step colder Iridium plugs N/A as well.

 

Oooooops....

Nice cooling fan, hard to imagine that would clear the hood.

Anyways, do the skinnies in the rear make much difference?

 

Dangerous as he!! too!! It just gets popped on between rounds. If its not held when switched on it just about takes off.

I still haven't really made a run to run comparison but its very minimal at best. Just about every track visit has been a race and I don't get that many runs so I don't like to experiment between rounds when bracket racing, consistency is the key.

 

damn that picture with that intake thing sticking out yoru headlight looks pretty sweet.

 

Kept doing funny things to my MAF though, CEL's, etc until I reset with the OBDII reader and left the ignition off for a few seconds. So I went back to the WAI.

 

Jime,

Do you have any pics of how that ram-air setup looks under the hood?

 

Never took a picture of the 2k2 with it but this is what it was like on the 4th Gen, very similar.

 

That's what I call a MAF filter.

 

damn that's crazy

 

Its a 3" micron filter. Nothing over 3" in size can go through that baby.

 

The MAF screen works great for stopping flying WD40 straws also.