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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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How much slower will my car be with 20s?

just got some dubs... they weigh about 25lbs without tires... im guessing aboout 35 lbs with tires.....
any rough estimates to quarter mile times?
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skandalouz
just got some dubs... they weigh about 25lbs without tires... im guessing aboout 35 lbs with tires.....
any rough estimates to quarter mile times?
those must be the lightest 20's in the world. your stock wheels weigh 25-26lbs. you may want to weigh yourself then weigh yourself with the wheels in your hand and see the difference. stock wheels and tires are somewhere around 45-48 lbs.
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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tires will be alot more than 10 lbs each.
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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either way .. its gonna take you longer to launch faster.. due to the circumference of the wheel and the amount of energy spent to spin it...
however once u roll you will have a higher crusing speed i guess.. but pickups will be a *****
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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The stock 17 tires are 24 lbs ea.
25lbs isnt awful for a 20" but you have moved the mass further out so more inertia must be overcome.
Look for 1 or 2 tenths slower at most, top speed will not change
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mick Max
The stock 17 tires are 24 lbs ea.
25lbs isnt awful for a 20" but you have moved the mass further out so more inertia must be overcome.
Look for 1 or 2 tenths slower at most, top speed will not change
Top speed won't change you try and go up to 140 something on 20's and if you don't scare your self half to death. I know I won't try to top out with 20's
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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dude man there is no way 20's weigh 25 pound without tires, if they do they are some cheap 20s that will crack very easily for sure, when i has 20's they weight 35lb and those were pretty light weight compared to other 20's
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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ummm, acceleration will be a lot slower. u should know that. weight isnt only issue, larger diameter too. cmon eddie
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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dude man there is no way 20's weigh 25 pound without tires, if they do they are some cheap 20s that will crack very easily for sure, when i has 20's they weight 35lb and those were pretty light weight compared to other 20's
Yeah good point unless they are a very expensive forged wheel (which is possible to be as light as 19-20 lbs and over $600 ea) they are almost certain to be 30+ pounds

Hey Dude,
What kind of grills and front spoiler lip on that Merlot?
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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20" tires will wiegh at least 30lbs a piece. If your worried about speed the last thing you would want is 20's on the max.
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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just would like to know how much it would slow me down by... i have the tsw thruxtons.... 25 lbs was just a rough estimate.... they may be more.. but there's not much wheel so i dont think it will be THAT much more.... going into this i knew it would slow me down....but i wanted to know by how much.......... i guess if it's 0.1 - 0.3 or wutever... it's not that bad....
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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ummmm, yeah i wouldnt get 20's..... just my .02 cents. and no im not flaming.
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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A serious thought with 19's and 20's is any kind of road hazard can bend a wheel. You are in Atlanta so not as bad as Chicagos certain death to your 20's.
I went with a 17 forged 14lb wheel for speed and Chicago road safety.
But they are not nearly as hot looking as a 18-19" wheel
Old May 1, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mick Max
A serious thought with 19's and 20's is any kind of road hazard can bend a wheel. You are in Atlanta so not as bad as Chicagos certain death to your 20's.
I went with a 17 forged 14lb wheel for speed and Chicago road safety.
But they are not nearly as hot looking as a 18-19" wheel
Yeah ... you right ,when i drive in Chicago i feel i'm in night culb
Old May 1, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mick Max
Hey Dude,
What kind of grills and front spoiler lip on that Merlot?
He has the Stillen front lip and grille tech inserts. Its the same lip as in my sig.
Old May 1, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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they are grille tech grills and a stillen front lip
Old May 2, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Don't forget that these big wheels will take you longer to stop as well.

Get some big brakes.
Old May 3, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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whats the weight of the wheel on the box? They will slow you down, but it will not be as noticable as previous 02 Maximas b/c of the low end torque difference.
Old May 3, 2004 | 03:34 AM
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From what I've read, every 1" increase in the diameter of a tire will decrease peak torque (at the wheels) by 13 Ft Lbs and will knock off about 15 HP. It all depends on gearing and other factors but that's about a middle of the road esitmate for power loss as you increase tire size.
Old May 3, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by theMax
Don't forget that these big wheels will take you longer to stop as well.

Get some big brakes.
yeah i noticed that it took a little bit more to stop....
anywayz... just letting everyone know that i got my wheels...they look pretty good.... pictures will come once i get my kit installed which should be pretty soon.............. i wanna put a pic of everything on together.... more of a WOW factor that way... =)...
Old May 3, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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You'd be surprised how much difference they can make. I saw a mag a while back (Sport Compact Car?) where they were trying to improve a G20's ET for no cash. It was the one where they ended up stripping it down to nothing, if you ever read it you will remember they chopped the roof off, lol. Anyways, they replaced the blinging 20" chrome wheels with the stock 16" wheels and shaved over a second off the ET. I don't remember exactly how much. I will have to look for the article when I get home tonight.
Old May 3, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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damn... that much..... well i guess that's ok.. i try not to speed anymore since i have so many points on my record.... i can probably buy another altima with the money im paying for insurance currently.... shiet....
but anytime i get the urge to speed... i can still rely on my 50 shot of n2o to get me back up to par... =)... might have to bump up to a 75 shot for the track if i wanna get better times i suppose.... my question was only to get a feel for what i'd be running at the track now....
Old May 3, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojiro_FtT
You'd be surprised how much difference they can make. I saw a mag a while back (Sport Compact Car?) where they were trying to improve a G20's ET for no cash. It was the one where they ended up stripping it down to nothing, if you ever read it you will remember they chopped the roof off, lol. Anyways, they replaced the blinging 20" chrome wheels with the stock 16" wheels and shaved over a second off the ET. I don't remember exactly how much. I will have to look for the article when I get home tonight.
it was a white sentra
Old May 3, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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I got 20" giovanna attacks and those weigh like 35-4- lbs a piece and then the tires. 20 lbs per rim for 20's...something aint right there. RE-read your box that you got the rims in. What kind of wheels did you go with?

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Old May 3, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jbgmaxima
I got 20" giovanna attacks and those weigh like 35-4- lbs a piece and then the tires. 20 lbs per rim for 20's...something aint right there. RE-read your box that you got the rims in. What kind of wheels did you go with?

jbgmaxima
the wheels were delivered to butler tire where they did all the mounting and balancing for the tires.... he said the weight on the box for my rims are 24.7lbs each... and the tires he said probably weigh about 25lbs each.... they are 20x8.5 tsw thruxtons in hyperblack.....
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