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Old 05-11-2004 | 09:27 AM
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Does having an Air intake System take away Low end power?

Just wondering this because I plan on installing an Air Intake System (Weapon R) into my 2K Maxima. However, would I lose low end power? I noticed that with a stock setup...the car accelarates quicker at a Stop sign or red light. I have an exhaust on my car now and I can feel that I am not accelarating as quickly as I did before the upgrade & I'm buring up more gas because I have to really pump on the gas pedal to accelarate it from 0 to 60. I'm also think about going back to the OEM exhaust w/ a large tail pipe conection.
Give me some feed back on this if you can...Thanks!
Old 05-11-2004 | 09:42 AM
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next time look around!!!!
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....6&page=1&pp=30
Old 05-11-2004 | 09:44 AM
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Yes, you will lose power down low, but gain up high. I just recently took my Injen intake off and I've felt a good bit of difference in power down low. Try going with the GAB (ghetto air box) mod and see if that works for you, it seems to be the best mod for most of the org members here. Good luck in your decision.
Old 05-11-2004 | 09:46 AM
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What exactly is the GAB mod?
Old 05-11-2004 | 09:54 AM
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What exactly is the GAB mod?

Ghetteo Air Box .......it is your stock air filter system modified . Look in the stickies on how to modify your stock air box. Gives the best of both worlds , keeps low end and gives you top end punch too with out costing you a whole lot if any money out of pocket.
Old 05-11-2004 | 10:14 AM
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here are GAB pictures.
they are a few pics down
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/335422/2
Old 05-11-2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
here are GAB pictures.
they are a few pics down
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/335422/2
I looked through the How tos and I could not find the write up for this mod GAB. If you could post the link to the thread I would appreciate it.
Old 05-11-2004 | 10:49 AM
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just to be **** and clarify:

you don't "lose" any power. your power band only shifts. more top end and less low end - but you don't techincally "lose" anything.
Old 05-11-2004 | 11:00 AM
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i did the GAB mod to my 2k and also "lost" (as you guys like to call it) low end power. i just installed an Injen knock-off from ebay. i "lost" more low-end with the GAB than with it.

this Injen knock-off from ebay is only $45 plus shipping. about the same price as a K&N you would want to buy with the GAB. so, the GAB isn't really even cheaper anymore.

more info on a GAB can be found here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=GAB

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=GAB

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=266911
Old 05-11-2004 | 11:03 AM
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also...since we are talking about homemade goodies - don't forget about a OSCAI! i tried this one as well. closer to a real intake than a GAB as far as setup. i still think the new one (injen type) is better on the butt dyno.

more info can be found here:

http://punkdork.net/max/oscai.htm

http://paulwendy.com/maxima/svcai.htm

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=202160

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=243704
Old 05-11-2004 | 12:28 PM
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Please explain and show ghetto airbox mod.

Thanks

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Old 05-11-2004 | 01:14 PM
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dude...click the links i posted above and read them all!

GAB is simply cutting a hole in the top of your stock airbox. actually, you cut the top off of your air flter holder (the part that your filter fits into and is then slid down into the air box) with a Dremal tool or hacksaw. this leave a big nasty looking hole - hense the term "ghetto".

this whole allows more airflow into your air box. more air = the potential for more power. and gives you a litlle growl at WOT (wide open throttle).

that's about all there is to it. quick, cheap, easy, and somewhat ugly. personally, i didn't want to chop up my only filter holder. so, i bought an extra one from the maxima.org classified section and cut that one - so that i could easily go back to the stock set up.
Old 05-11-2004 | 01:15 PM
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oh yea, one of the guys here (see the links above) figured out a way to do it without cutting the filter holder. he used a coat hanger to hold the filter in place with the filter holder completely removed.

again, look at the links above...the is a bunch of post and pics on it all.
Old 05-11-2004 | 05:41 PM
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here's a link to the GAB how-to that uses the coat hanger method. imo the best way to do the GAB since you can return to stock quickly and with no probs.

http://home.insightbb.com/~dwh/GAB.htm

i've been running this set up for a while. i'd say in general your off the line power is slightly less than stock. but accelleration and response are improved in all other situations. the overall improvement has been enough to keep me from switching back to stock.
Old 05-11-2004 | 05:46 PM
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this subject hasn't been discussed to death or anything....
Old 05-11-2004 | 06:21 PM
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The other thing that I love about the GAB is the awesome sound it gives off.

Whenever people are riding with me or standing around outside I like to take off so that they can hear what my car sounds like with it.

They always ask what do I have under the hood, what kind of intake do you have? And I always tell them the Ghetto Airbox and they say what the hell is that?

When I pop the hood and show them they just say "Damn, that really is Ghetto."
Old 05-11-2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
this subject hasn't been discussed to death or anything....
yep.......
Old 05-11-2004 | 07:26 PM
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it's funny how all the old heads always come out of the woodwork to complain about rehashed topics instead of adding useful information to the discussion.



*gasp* don't tell me people get tired of discussing maxima topics on a maxima discussion board.
Old 05-11-2004 | 07:49 PM
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Yeah really. If you don't like the topic or have heard about it a million times you don't have to look at it. With a forum this big you're always having new people coming in and despite the faqs and how to's there are still alot things that aren't covered or have dead links.
Old 05-11-2004 | 09:12 PM
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Just pick up the low end power you loose with a pulley swap.
Old 07-07-2004 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BP_3.5
it's funny how all the old heads always come out of the woodwork to complain about rehashed topics instead of adding useful information to the discussion.



*gasp* don't tell me people get tired of discussing maxima topics on a maxima discussion board.

1. not coming out of woodwork, I think I've contributed alot to the org and have a few HOW-TOs on my cardomain site too...and I've definitely commented on intake threads many times....
2. really, there is no more useful information to add to this....the answer was addressed COMPLETELY by the hyperlinks fishhouse posted...yet people keep asking the question AFTER the posts by fishouse - anybody actually READ fishhouse's posts?
3. not tired of maxima topics, just wonder why alot of new guys don't take 30 minutes to look for an answer that might already be there. There must be 50 threads on this and related subjects that could be easily found by scanning back a few pages....but I guess that's the American way - don't do any research yourself, just count on others to do it for you and give you an easy answer.....That's why I posted a how-to on hyperground, because everyone was PMing me asking me EXACTLY how to do it. When I did it, i collected some basic research on the org and then just figured it out on my own with some trial and error....
4. people here are car enthusiasts, supposedlly - so I would figure that people here would be willing to "try" something on their car and that they'd know some car basics. The GAB is an extremely simple concept and there are many ways to create GABs and OSCAIs - instead of just copying what others have done, why not try to make something creative, that might turn out even better---such as the "Gutter OSCAI"....I know soonerfan and I have both been trying to come up with a "cold air" intake tube to link up with the stock air box and the aftermarket intakes.....(hehe still working on it....)

The best threads are when someone is doing something hasn't been done yet, or at least improving on something that has been done, in my opinion....
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..and it's "old hands" not "old heads"
Old 07-07-2004 | 07:48 PM
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i hear you irish44j. it's just that people can't search here, so i'm sure it adds a certain level of frustration for both the n00bs and the old hands when members want to find out as much as possible about a mod before trying it.

btw...good looking out on the hyperground writeup. works like a charm.
Old 07-07-2004 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
1. not coming out of woodwork, I think I've contributed alot to the org and have a few HOW-TOs on my cardomain site too...and I've definitely commented on intake threads many times....
2. really, there is no more useful information to add to this....the answer was addressed COMPLETELY by the hyperlinks fishhouse posted...yet people keep asking the question AFTER the posts by fishouse - anybody actually READ fishhouse's posts?
3. not tired of maxima topics, just wonder why alot of new guys don't take 30 minutes to look for an answer that might already be there. There must be 50 threads on this and related subjects that could be easily found by scanning back a few pages....but I guess that's the American way - don't do any research yourself, just count on others to do it for you and give you an easy answer.....That's why I posted a how-to on hyperground, because everyone was PMing me asking me EXACTLY how to do it. When I did it, i collected some basic research on the org and then just figured it out on my own with some trial and error....
4. people here are car enthusiasts, supposedlly - so I would figure that people here would be willing to "try" something on their car and that they'd know some car basics. The GAB is an extremely simple concept and there are many ways to create GABs and OSCAIs - instead of just copying what others have done, why not try to make something creative, that might turn out even better---such as the "Gutter OSCAI"....I know soonerfan and I have both been trying to come up with a "cold air" intake tube to link up with the stock air box and the aftermarket intakes.....(hehe still working on it....)

The best threads are when someone is doing something hasn't been done yet, or at least improving on something that has been done, in my opinion....

Honestly, no one should have to listen to you because you have the ugliest roof rack on your car. Seriously dude it's hideous. If you wanted to do that you should've gotten a subaru wagon. If you have nothing to say then don't say it. IMO intakes dont really help, they make a cool noise, lose power when it's hot, and thats about it.
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