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Old 05-27-2004, 04:56 AM
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6-speed in a yk2?

OKay i have posted this before but didn't find out if I can to an 2000se auto conversion to a HLSD 6-speed from a 2k3, anybody??? I also know that some people dont like the idea, but Im realy interested, thank you
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Might as well do the engine as well. Sorry I cant tell you whether you would be able to or not. I would GUESS that you could considering since they are the same body type. You might have to change the engine mounts around if you are going to do the engine. Now that I think about it you might need to swap the engine anyway becuase you might need the ECU for the 6spd.

Edit: Or you might just need an ECU from a 00-01 manual max.
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Originally Posted by bgates1654
Might as well do the engine as well. Sorry I cant tell you whether you would be able to or not. I would GUESS that you could considering since they are the same body type. You might have to change the engine mounts around if you are going to do the engine. Now that I think about it you might need to swap the engine anyway becuase you might need the ECU for the 6spd.

Edit: Or you might just need an ECU from a 00-01 manual max.
actually i was thinking going FI after i do the swap and save some $$. swapping a VQ35DE would not be worth it. would need electrical wiring, too expensive.... but the tranny alopne seems like a good idea....
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The owner of http://www.maximumtuning.net/ haas a 02-03 6 speed transmission in his 96-99 Maxima.
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Originally Posted by Trance Artur
The owner of http://www.maximumtuning.net/ haas a 02-03 6 speed transmission in his 96-99 Maxima.
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Originally Posted by mjk
actually i was thinking going FI after i do the swap and save some $$. swapping a VQ35DE would not be worth it. would need electrical wiring, too expensive.... but the tranny alopne seems like a good idea....
Is it really a smart decision to put an untested tranny in a FI application? Also, from what I understand, the 6sp tranny is very compact in comparison to the 5sp which may indicate in a reduced capability for extra hp. You may want to ask SR20DEN since he seems to know quite a bit about the 6sp unit.
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Originally Posted by Y2K2Driver
Is it really a smart decision to put an untested tranny in a FI application? Also, from what I understand, the 6sp tranny is very compact in comparison to the 5sp which may indicate in a reduced capability for extra hp. You may want to ask SR20DEN since he seems to know quite a bit about the 6sp unit.
SR20DEN has ran NOS on hias, but I PMed him to be sure. Plus the 6-speed is used in the 3.5 max and Z so it should be stronger than the 5-speed froma '00-'01. I think
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Originally Posted by mjk
SR20DEN has ran NOS on hias, but I PMed him to be sure. Plus the 6-speed is used in the 3.5 max and Z so it should be stronger than the 5-speed froma '00-'01. I think
SR20DEN has also, from what I understand, had to fix his tranny on more than one occasion. The 6sp found in the Max is not the same unit found in the Z. It is, however, the same unit found in the SE-R V. All I'm trying to say is that the long term durability of the 6sp, while unknown, does not look promising from what I've read here. By all means, try and let us know.
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Originally Posted by mjk
SR20DEN has ran NOS on hias, but I PMed him to be sure. Plus the 6-speed is used in the 3.5 max and Z so it should be stronger than the 5-speed froma '00-'01. I think

The 350Z tranny and the 2002+ Maxima tranny are absolutely NOT the same transmission...not even close.
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
The 350Z tranny and the 2002+ Maxima tranny are absolutely NOT the same transmission...not even close.
Hopefully that explains while I've heard a whole lot less about 02-03 Max 6speeds needing to replaced than G35/Z trannies. However that could be due to the fact that less of the 02-03 Max 6speeds were made.
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6spd conversion is going to cost ya alot more than a 5spd conversion. Finding axles for a HLSD tranny is going to be tough, then U need the gay cable shifter, I've conversed with SR20DEN on AIM few times and we both have diff opinions as to which one is stronger. 5spds have been made for hmmm looong time, the tranny is basically almost the same on a 86 Maxima as a 01 Maxima. Once ya open em up U will see that they share alot in common. I've never had problems with my 5spd- till around 70K miles when my 4th gear blew all the teeth on both the input and countershaft gears. My tranny has seen 100 shot of NOS back at 700 miles when the car was new.... no problems right now with neighter the engine or tranny.
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Originally Posted by Y2K2Driver
SR20DEN has also, from what I understand, had to fix his tranny on more than one occasion. The 6sp found in the Max is not the same unit found in the Z. It is, however, the same unit found in the SE-R V. All I'm trying to say is that the long term durability of the 6sp, while unknown, does not look promising from what I've read here. By all means, try and let us know.
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6spd conversion is going to cost ya alot more than a 5spd conversion. Finding axles for a HLSD tranny is going to be tough, then U need the gay cable shifter, I've conversed with SR20DEN on AIM few times and we both have diff opinions as to which one is stronger. 5spds have been made for hmmm looong time, the tranny is basically almost the same on a 86 Maxima as a 01 Maxima. Once ya open em up U will see that they share alot in common. I've never had problems with my 5spd- till around 70K miles when my 4th gear blew all the teeth on both the input and countershaft gears. My tranny has seen 100 shot of NOS back at 700 miles when the car was new.... no problems right now with neighter the engine or tranny.
once i start heavy modding, im thinking about taking the car to 400-450whp, not sure yet if via s/c with wet shot or t/c. Do you think a cryo treated 5-speed would handle that? And what speed does 5th gear redline at?? thank ya
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
6spd conversion is going to cost ya alot more than a 5spd conversion. Finding axles for a HLSD tranny is going to be tough, then U need the gay cable shifter, I've conversed with SR20DEN on AIM few times and we both have diff opinions as to which one is stronger. 5spds have been made for hmmm looong time, the tranny is basically almost the same on a 86 Maxima as a 01 Maxima. Once ya open em up U will see that they share alot in common. I've never had problems with my 5spd- till around 70K miles when my 4th gear blew all the teeth on both the input and countershaft gears. My tranny has seen 100 shot of NOS back at 700 miles when the car was new.... no problems right now with neighter the engine or tranny.
how much would the 5speed take max, daily driven?
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I have seen the inards of both of those transmissions and I am certain that the gears in the 6 speed are stronger than the older 5 speeds. Aichi, now owned by Nissan, which manufactures these trannys rates the RS6F51A (MFA60) to be much stronger than the RS5F50A.
http://www.aichikikai.co.jp/english/mission.html

I routinely abuse my gearbox from quick and excessive shifting and the problems I have had are related to that. And I have never had a Nissan tranny that I didn't either break or kill the 3rd gear synchro. The 6 speed has held over 400ft. lb. of torque on the input shaft and been repeatedly jamed through each gear in my car and I have seen no signs of gear fatigue. However many of us have killed the 5 speed trannys on stock engines. I destroyed two of them in my '98 Maxima and the last one I shredded 4th gear on a 100% stock engine with the shotty Nissan key value (very weak) clutch.


Plus, the 6 speed is much more widely used than the old 5 speed and seems to have a pretty good following.

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11283
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I'm proven wrong. I was almost certain that 6sp was weaker. Good to have that cleared up.
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Old 05-29-2004, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I have seen the inards of both of those transmissions and I am certain that the gears in the 6 speed are stronger than the older 5 speeds. Aichi, now owned by Nissan, which manufactures these trannys rates the RS6F51A (MFA60) to be much stronger than the RS5F50A.
http://www.aichikikai.co.jp/english/mission.html

I routinely abuse my gearbox from quick and excessive shifting and the problems I have had are related to that. And I have never had a Nissan tranny that I didn't either break or kill the 3rd gear synchro. The 6 speed has held over 400ft. lb. of torque on the input shaft and been repeatedly jamed through each gear in my car and I have seen no signs of gear fatigue. However many of us have killed the 5 speed trannys on stock engines. I destroyed two of them in my '98 Maxima and the last one I shredded 4th gear on a 100% stock engine with the shotty Nissan key value (very weak) clutch.


Plus, the 6 speed is much more widely used than the old 5 speed and seems to have a pretty good following.

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11283

sounds like an expert to me, proof and all. thanx man
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5spd tranny maxes out at 159MPH in a 5th gen Maxima- provided you have the 17" V Rated program in your ECU- only 5spd 17"ed wheeled Maxes have em. I'm going to find out from my Nismo engineer friend which tranny is stronger, for the longest time he recomended the 5spd to install on 400+WHP SR20s.
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
5spd tranny maxes out at 159MPH in a 5th gen Maxima- provided you have the 17" V Rated program in your ECU- only 5spd 17"ed wheeled Maxes have em. I'm going to find out from my Nismo engineer friend which tranny is stronger, for the longest time he recomended the 5spd to install on 400+WHP SR20s.
Well look at the chart. The F50 was the strongest FWD trans at the time, stronger than the F70 and the old F32.

Now there is one stronger. And it has far more tuning options to boot.
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thanx guys, i cant wait hehe.
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Originally Posted by mjk
thanx guys, i cant wait hehe.
where would i go to get a tranny swap, anybody know? should i just try a local tranny rebuild shop?

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i asssume tahts where u live, so if u can do a auto to 6-speed for a decent price i would consider it, probably would go for it in about 2 months... let me know. unless its a joke then u just made me cry raising m hopes like that
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Im not joking, but you have to leave the car here for a few days over a long weekend and buy all the parts you need.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Im not joking, but you have to leave the car here for a few days over a long weekend and buy all the parts you need.
a few days would be hard, but iof i could get u al the parts before, how long would it tak ya?
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I would do a swap for ya, ask Y2K Max Luv, I've done his LSD, flywheel, clutch etc. I would need the car for about half a day or so to finish. I've done these swaps in 3rd gen Maximas, Sentras, G20s. E-mail me for more info.
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I would need the car for about half a day or so to finish.



You've been quoted.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN



You've been quoted.
I arrived at 8 AM and after all the B.S.ing we did, I was out the door at 1 PM. Plus I had to go to autozone to get parts. He does very good work and is fast.

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Originally Posted by Y2k Max Luv
I arrived at 8 AM and after all the B.S.ing we did, I was out the door at 1 PM. Plus I had to go to autozone to get parts. He does very good work and is fast.

B.T.W. Mike, I still owe you $40
You have a 6 speed?
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Nah its a 5spd , we just did a LSD, Unorthodox Flywheel, ACT clutch, Ypipe, high flow cat, new axle seals, ****n around with the frozen fill plug on the tranny. At the next Nissan meet, or if U wanna come out to any of the Wednesday nite car meets by Hooters in Schaumburg lemme know, take that 40 from ya Glad the MAF works.
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