ok, obviously there has been fitment issues and customer service issues with pretty much every aftermarket 5th gen max part. from not getting a maf adaptrer shipped with a wai, to having to relocate o2 bungs, sensors and hangers for exhaust parts.

why can't anyone get this ****** fuqn sheet right! i have witnessed people do amazing things with their maxes on this forum. are you seriously trying to tell me that none of you can actually make a freaking y pipe or b pipe that fits!?!?
c'mon. some of you could drop a motor, strip it, bore it, and rebuild it in a weekend in your garage. go rent some space and build a quality product that FITS EVERY TIME.

for God's sake. there are literally hundreds of teenagers on this forum that you could clean up on. hey, mommy and daddy bought the car. they have plenty of money for mods.

make a quality product. make it consistent. make some money.

 

You're smart

 

yes. i am.

 

it's funny that its always the NEWBIES that complain about all the parts...
its almost impossible to have two parts made EXACTLY the same ...

 

why don't you make some quality products that would fit my Cali spec and you Fed spec without problems. Make some money one us, teenagers.

 

i'm hardly a newbie. and it is NOT impossible to make 2 parts exactly the same.

 

i would love to. i simply don't have the talent to do so. some of you do.

 

You have no talent.

 

It's always a tradeoff. Cost vs quality, etc.

Most higher-level mods (stuff other than putting LED window squirters and fake hood pins and NOS stickers on your car) will require some degree of improvisation -- cars vary from factory to factory and year to year, especially with bolt holes, hanger location, etc.

It takes a huge investment to start up a company making even one type of mod -- material, labor, corporation costs, advertising, production, tools, shipping, etc. Most manufacturers can barely hope to break even, much less turn huge profits, on their products.

What I'd look for in a GOOD aftermarket supplier:

- Return guarantee with PAID SHIPPING and NO RESTOCK FEES if the part is broken, incorrect, damaged, missing hardware, defective, or does not fit your vehicle.
- Solid warranty program
- Good word-of-mouth and clean reports from the BBB (search Google for the company's name to check for complaints)
- Specializes in your type of car only (much less chance for problems)

I agree that there is a shortage of aftermarket bolt-ons for our cars, but hell, it's not a '68 Chevelle.


Look at, say, a turbo kit for a b16 honda, vs. one for our VQs... # of cars on the road, # of people modifying their engines..etc..as demand for mods increases new suppliers will come around and costs will go down while quality improves. Oh, and the VQ35 is a new engine, vs. say a chevy 350ci...

 

thank you. now i "get it."

 

maybe not, but your mother sure does.

 

Remember that not all Max's are the same either. Nissan has a set of specs as well. A pipe that bangs on one may be good on another.

Custom is the only way to ensure a perfect fit. Bolt-on is always going to have its problems.

 

On a side note, ihavea5spd, this is probably one of the most trollish threads I've seen in a while.

 

dude, i'm not trolling. i was serious with my question. i have read several posts over the past 2 years regarding quality issues w/ aftermarket parts. it gets maddening after a while. i have been a member here for a long time, and am far from a troll.

it was a serious question and concern, and i received a couple of serious replies. now i know.

 

It says you joined in may 2004. You may have been reading posts for a long time but you haven't been a member for a long time. That out of the way, you realize that there are many different shops where people install their stuff and some of those may really have no clue what they are doing?

I have seen horror installs on the same parts/cars vs a good job by another place numerous times before.

You also mention teenagers. Well guess what.. Teenagers change their mind every week and never have enough money to do things right the first time, and then they come around to complain and expect things to be done right and for cheap.

Bottom line is if you can't drop the funds, don't mod your car. If you mod on a budged be prepared for half assed jobs until you have enough to get them right. It's how things go. As far as the quality of the ypipes, they could be better but then everything aftermarket could be better. People have 2000$ headunits dying, 1800$ turbos blowing, all sorts of other crap that just doesn't work. You take your chance and move on. If enough people have problems with a specific product then others can read about it and decide whether they want to purchase that product.

Welcome to demand and supply.

 

no, no, no. i am on my 3rd screen name. i joined the .org a long time ago. when i bought my max actually. that was over 2 years ago. i have had to change screen names because on 2 occassions, after clearing temp files and forms, i have not been able to log in and post. my emails to the org go unanswered, so i just re register. my old sn was jjames, and 2k5spd. for whatever reason, the jjames account in gone.

now you know

 

Wow who's the teenager now. You're a disgrace to this website...and life in general. Have a nice day and make sure you keep talking about things you know nothing about, everyone can tell.

 

zip it, loser. if you don't have anything to add to a thread, just don't post. go troll somewhere else.

 

One of the dumbest comments I've ever heard. Just think.