SR20s secret sauce intake mod
#1
SR20s secret sauce intake mod
Can somebody please provide me a link or instructions on how to do this mod as I cannot search. I am thinking of getting my upper intake manifold honed tqice over.
Thanks alot,
Mark
Thanks alot,
Mark
#4
Originally Posted by soonerfan
no one knows what it is. its the one thing he has that none of us have. if i was him i wouldnt ever tell anyone.
#5
Originally Posted by sloppymax
i would not say that no one else knows but no one is going to spill the beans. even after its marketed and sold, it is still going to be a mystery.
#6
I do share just about everything else, but this one isn't for the majority of the DIYers. Everyone asked for it, everyone wants it so I will provide it. But only as complete with a core trade in.
#7
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I do share just about everything else, but this one isn't for the majority of the DIYers. Everyone asked for it, everyone wants it so I will provide it. But only as complete with a core trade in.
#8
Originally Posted by PoLo
wanna provide a link...i think i completely missed this topic when it was brought up.
There's not much info on it. I think the first real reference to it was in this thread.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=296085
#9
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=2976387
this might be another one PoLo
this might be another one PoLo
#12
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
OK....when will he release it....
someone is always trying to make money form something....
someone is always trying to make money form something....
I see no reason why I should give away everything for free. Do you?
#13
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
If you have a problem with that then don't buy it.
I see no reason why I should give away everything for free. Do you?
I see no reason why I should give away everything for free. Do you?
#14
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
OK....when will he release it....
someone is always trying to make money form something....
someone is always trying to make money form something....
Why shouldn't he be allowed to make money? We do live in America (remember capitalism?) Their is nothing wrong with someone providing a product that people want and making a profit on it. This is how people make a living. This attitude is part of the reason we have relatively little aftermarket support.
#15
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
If you have a problem with that then don't buy it.
I see no reason why I should give away everything for free. Do you?
I see no reason why I should give away everything for free. Do you?
SR, what price were you considering? what sort of guaranteed performance are you claiming? i mean i understand your not wanting to say anything, as the board is full of vultures, but you also can't say "gimme xxx and i'll give you back something that looks the same "
also, time frame completion. we can continue this via email. mgalvis01@hotmail.com
#16
I'm interested as well in all the details. justcrossedintime@hotmail.com
#17
Originally Posted by 03BlkSETE
Why shouldn't he be allowed to make money? We do live in America (remember capitalism?) Their is nothing wrong with someone providing a product that people want and making a profit on it. This is how people make a living. This attitude is part of the reason we have relatively little aftermarket support.
#19
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
Sorry, I thought this was the Soviet Union....how silly of me...
BTW I've been trying to search for the answer for you on you idle problem with no luck. I do remember reading a thread where an org member had a similiar problem. Turned out he damage his TB by forcing the to far open while cleaning it. If I find the thread I'll let you know.
#20
I sure the main reason he is not telling is he is still not sure if it is a sure thing or not and if it is safe. i have talked to him and he seem like a very nice guy. im sure he would like to make some money but it is not all about that.
#21
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
That's not what i ment though.....of course you can't give it away for free but somehow i think the price will be rediculously high.....
#22
Does $300ish for a solid 10-15 REAL hp sound resonable? If you say no then I won't make it at all, because I don't know of anything you can buy for that price that will give you that much real power.
And that is just over the peak. It makes even more power at redline over the normal curve.
I plan on doing a stage one and a stage 2. Stage 1 for most people and stage 2 for those that want to make use of a 7200 RPM redline from a TS ecu.
And that is just over the peak. It makes even more power at redline over the normal curve.
I plan on doing a stage one and a stage 2. Stage 1 for most people and stage 2 for those that want to make use of a 7200 RPM redline from a TS ecu.
#24
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
That's not what i ment though.....of course you can't give it away for free but somehow i think the price will be rediculously high.....
#25
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Come on man. That would be pretty hardcore of me. If it were that simple I would have told everyone.
Does this intake mod raise torque all across the board, BTW? (i.e. similar to the Y-pipe, I think...)
#26
Originally Posted by 03BlkSETE
That's the former Soviet Union.
BTW I've been trying to search for the answer for you on you idle problem with no luck. I do remember reading a thread where an org member had a similiar problem. Turned out he damage his TB by forcing the to far open while cleaning it. If I find the thread I'll let you know.
BTW I've been trying to search for the answer for you on you idle problem with no luck. I do remember reading a thread where an org member had a similiar problem. Turned out he damage his TB by forcing the to far open while cleaning it. If I find the thread I'll let you know.
#28
Originally Posted by 95maxrider
Would you be able to do the mod to a VI/2k VI?
And would these gains be all high RPM like most mods? It would be nice if we could get gains all across the power band. As I have an auto, high RPM power is not ALL that beneficial.
#29
More power to him if he has customers more willing to use their checkbook to add power than do it themselves. That's how aftermarket performance gets started.
Increasing airflow through porting ( like I am almost certain SR20DEN is doing ) always adds more power as RPM's increase. If you want more power down low, add more displacement. If you port too much and increase runner size extensively, it can cost you some low speed airflow velocity, and actually hurt low end power.
Even though I've seen some org members poke fun at "rustang" owners, I used to be one, and I learned a lot about adding airflow to a motor that has great potential from the factory, but is hamstrung by stock parts.
I wouldn't say the VQ35 is hamstrung, but based on Studman's pics, there appears to be some room for improvement simply by cleaning up the runners in the lower intake, and anyplace else the air has to turn before it goes into the heads. There may be more gains available depending on design compromises, but I really don't think Nissan engineers leave much on the table.
I'm also not saying I know the "secret sauce" but I have some ideas.
Those little bumps that Studman was showing in his pics will hardly have any effect on anything. Removing them, opening up those runners if possible, and simply cleaning up the casting finish should help airlflow a bit.
FYI in the "rustang" community, a cartridge roll blend and polish to around 150grit on a Ford Racing performance lower intake usually adds around 10hp and takes only a few hours work. That's with a larger displacement motor with more ports than the VQ35 so it makes more difference, but you can see the potential. There's a lot more than 10hp available with the Ford stuff if you know how to port them properly.
The VQ35 lower is a piece of airflow artwork in comparison, but could still be polished to improve flow. I've not looked at the rest of the intake system, but I'm guessing there are gains to be made in the long, curving elbow and the mating area between it and the upper intake. I'm not sure what the upper intake has to offer.
I guess I need to take mine apart and have a look for myself like someone else here suggested.
Increasing airflow through porting ( like I am almost certain SR20DEN is doing ) always adds more power as RPM's increase. If you want more power down low, add more displacement. If you port too much and increase runner size extensively, it can cost you some low speed airflow velocity, and actually hurt low end power.
Even though I've seen some org members poke fun at "rustang" owners, I used to be one, and I learned a lot about adding airflow to a motor that has great potential from the factory, but is hamstrung by stock parts.
I wouldn't say the VQ35 is hamstrung, but based on Studman's pics, there appears to be some room for improvement simply by cleaning up the runners in the lower intake, and anyplace else the air has to turn before it goes into the heads. There may be more gains available depending on design compromises, but I really don't think Nissan engineers leave much on the table.
I'm also not saying I know the "secret sauce" but I have some ideas.
Those little bumps that Studman was showing in his pics will hardly have any effect on anything. Removing them, opening up those runners if possible, and simply cleaning up the casting finish should help airlflow a bit.
FYI in the "rustang" community, a cartridge roll blend and polish to around 150grit on a Ford Racing performance lower intake usually adds around 10hp and takes only a few hours work. That's with a larger displacement motor with more ports than the VQ35 so it makes more difference, but you can see the potential. There's a lot more than 10hp available with the Ford stuff if you know how to port them properly.
The VQ35 lower is a piece of airflow artwork in comparison, but could still be polished to improve flow. I've not looked at the rest of the intake system, but I'm guessing there are gains to be made in the long, curving elbow and the mating area between it and the upper intake. I'm not sure what the upper intake has to offer.
I guess I need to take mine apart and have a look for myself like someone else here suggested.
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