Nissan says "K&N filter may have damaged MAF"
08-27-2004, 07:14 AM
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Nissan says "K&N filter may have damaged MAF"
My Max has developed a slight hesitation problem when I first accelerate. It typically happens after the cars been sitting for a few hours (i.e. overnight in the garage or during the day in the underground parking at work). It does a kind of lurching motion for about 10 seconds and then seems to be fine.
Anyway, my car was at Nissan for an oil change earlier this week and I mentioned the hesitation problem. After a quick inspection they told me that my K&N filter may have damaged my MAF sensor but that it would cost me $85 for them to do a proper inspection. Are they FOS or is this a possibility? Do my symptons sound like a MAF problem? I'm a little sceptical that the K&N is the cause but thought I'd see what you guys think.
Anyway, my car was at Nissan for an oil change earlier this week and I mentioned the hesitation problem. After a quick inspection they told me that my K&N filter may have damaged my MAF sensor but that it would cost me $85 for them to do a proper inspection. Are they FOS or is this a possibility? Do my symptons sound like a MAF problem? I'm a little sceptical that the K&N is the cause but thought I'd see what you guys think.
08-27-2004, 07:52 AM
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I was told by a nissan tech that the OEM filter is an oil based filter. If the K&N were teh problem it would be becuase of over oiling (after cleaning) the K&N and not allowing it to run off. In that case the only thing that would happen is that the MAF gets a bit of oil on it. If that were the problem you could fix it easily by cleaning it off with some degreaser.
But yeah if you want to get it checked out by the dealer then do what mzmtg said.
But yeah if you want to get it checked out by the dealer then do what mzmtg said.
08-27-2004, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fatboyp
My Max has developed a slight hesitation problem when I first accelerate. It typically happens after the cars been sitting for a few hours (i.e. overnight in the garage or during the day in the underground parking at work). It does a kind of lurching motion for about 10 seconds and then seems to be fine.
Anyway, my car was at Nissan for an oil change earlier this week and I mentioned the hesitation problem. After a quick inspection they told me that my K&N filter may have damaged my MAF sensor but that it would cost me $85 for them to do a proper inspection. Are they FOS or is this a possibility? Do my symptons sound like a MAF problem? I'm a little sceptical that the K&N is the cause but thought I'd see what you guys think.
Anyway, my car was at Nissan for an oil change earlier this week and I mentioned the hesitation problem. After a quick inspection they told me that my K&N filter may have damaged my MAF sensor but that it would cost me $85 for them to do a proper inspection. Are they FOS or is this a possibility? Do my symptons sound like a MAF problem? I'm a little sceptical that the K&N is the cause but thought I'd see what you guys think.
08-27-2004, 08:15 AM
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Don't pay $85. A new maf is a few hundred I think, but you can buy the sensor itself for about $90 and put it in yourself from Dave B, if I remember correctly.
Does this happen when the engine is only cold. My 00 lurches a bit until it's warmed up, for the first 30 seconds, unless I'm really steady with the RPM. I think it's a MAF issue possibly, but I've not bothered looking more into it, as the problem has not gotten worse over the past year
Does this happen when the engine is only cold. My 00 lurches a bit until it's warmed up, for the first 30 seconds, unless I'm really steady with the RPM. I think it's a MAF issue possibly, but I've not bothered looking more into it, as the problem has not gotten worse over the past year
08-27-2004, 08:32 AM
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interesting
thanks for the replies guys. I found some info on this problem in the FAQ section as well which was quite useful.
I've never cleaned or oiled my K&N so I can probably rule out that potential cause. Maybe I'll order a new MAF from Dave B. and see if that solves the problem.
SkoorbMax to answer your question, yes, it only happens when the car's been sitting for a few hours and the engine is cool. If I let it warm up for a minute or two before driving it doesn't seem to do it. Its more of an annoyance than anything else right now but I 'd rather try and fix it then wait for it to get worse.
I've never cleaned or oiled my K&N so I can probably rule out that potential cause. Maybe I'll order a new MAF from Dave B. and see if that solves the problem.
SkoorbMax to answer your question, yes, it only happens when the car's been sitting for a few hours and the engine is cool. If I let it warm up for a minute or two before driving it doesn't seem to do it. Its more of an annoyance than anything else right now but I 'd rather try and fix it then wait for it to get worse.
08-27-2004, 09:05 AM
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I had the exact same problem last year after dropping in my k&n that may have been over-oiled from the factory...speculation only basis!!!
But to make a long story short I got a new MAF cleaned and re-oiled the k&n and everything has been great.
But to make a long story short I got a new MAF cleaned and re-oiled the k&n and everything has been great.
08-27-2004, 10:10 AM
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I also had the exact same problem after I installed my K&N filter. The OEM filter is not oil based, it is a paper filter. The K&N is an oiled gauze filter. I have heard that even though it is pre-oiled, the K&N can be somewhat overoiled, causing this issue. The actual performance increase is negligible compared to a paper filter. The paper filter works a whole lot better on filtration also. I would just switch back to OEM.
08-27-2004, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SkoorbMax
Don't pay $85. A new maf is a few hundred I think, but you can buy the sensor itself for about $90 and put it in yourself from Dave B, if I remember correctly.
Does this happen when the engine is only cold. My 00 lurches a bit until it's warmed up, for the first 30 seconds, unless I'm really steady with the RPM. I think it's a MAF issue possibly, but I've not bothered looking more into it, as the problem has not gotten worse over the past year
Does this happen when the engine is only cold. My 00 lurches a bit until it's warmed up, for the first 30 seconds, unless I'm really steady with the RPM. I think it's a MAF issue possibly, but I've not bothered looking more into it, as the problem has not gotten worse over the past year
08-27-2004, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
What the hell? 2k0 and 2k1 MAF sensors are $85...not a few hundred.
08-27-2004, 10:42 AM
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Nissan OEM filters are indeed oiled, Schmatt..and oiled a lot. I removed my oem and put it in a card board box for storage...about a week later I noticed that the box was drenched in oil from the filter.
Nissan need to get a new supplier for MAF's and Rotors.........!
Nissan need to get a new supplier for MAF's and Rotors.........!
08-27-2004, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ABDomega
There should be a recall on the 2000 MAF thereby costing us nothing to update to the 2001 MAF.
If you are referring to other issues NOT related to htis thread, then I retract my statement.
08-27-2004, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboyp
thanks for the replies guys. I found some info on this problem in the FAQ section as well which was quite useful.
I've never cleaned or oiled my K&N so I can probably rule out that potential cause. Maybe I'll order a new MAF from Dave B. and see if that solves the problem.
SkoorbMax to answer your question, yes, it only happens when the car's been sitting for a few hours and the engine is cool. If I let it warm up for a minute or two before driving it doesn't seem to do it. Its more of an annoyance than anything else right now but I 'd rather try and fix it then wait for it to get worse.
I've never cleaned or oiled my K&N so I can probably rule out that potential cause. Maybe I'll order a new MAF from Dave B. and see if that solves the problem.
SkoorbMax to answer your question, yes, it only happens when the car's been sitting for a few hours and the engine is cool. If I let it warm up for a minute or two before driving it doesn't seem to do it. Its more of an annoyance than anything else right now but I 'd rather try and fix it then wait for it to get worse.
A Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol can save you quite a bit of money.
08-27-2004, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
MAFs fail even on stock unlatered Maximas... I personally have my 5th MAF installed... and mycar is far from stock. I don't clean my K&Ns, I just buy new ones every year and forget bout it 
SPW filter from SWA, $20 
08-27-2004, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SkoorbMax
Perhaps. I have not looked into it, but like I said, the sensor itself is under $100, but I think that if you take it to a dealership most will try and sell you the entire MAF sensor and casing around it, costing you a few times as much. At least that's what I've read here in the past.
Like MaximaPolak said...the ENTIRE MAF is only $103 at any Nissan dealer...definitely not a few hundred... i have no idea where that price is coming from that ppl are talking about here..i got mine for $85 bc i know the parts guy and get a discount so that's not too shabby
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