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Winter tires vs. All season - what are you running?

Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Winter tires vs. All season - what are you running?

For all you winter drivers: How many of you rely on All seasons vs. Winter tires. I'm debating on whether I should get a second set of rims for spring/summer/fall tires and put winter tires on the stock rims. The OEM Potenzas will not cut it this winter....really shouldn't have last winter either.

Curious as to what all you winter .orgers have.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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toyo proxes 4 all season tires, 235/45/17
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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I used Nokian WRs last year. Great snow tire and its the only snow tire that you can leave on all year and use year round. Rated four seasons. I only used them during the winter and switched back to my S-03s.

http://www.nokiantyres.com/passenger...ame=NOKIAN+WR#

I spent a few weeks researching all the different types of snow tires, and Nokian really does have some of the finest ones. If you want something more aggressive, then the Hakkapeliitta 2 or 4 are right up your alley.

http://www.nokiantyres.com/wintertyres_en

I was able to take my car to upstate NY last year, and drove though some roads where I was sure I would get stuck. The Nokians kept plowing through hard packed, soft snow and slush with no problem. Driving on good winter tires makes the car so much safer and comfortable to operate.

Originally Posted by zuprman
For all you winter drivers: How many of you rely on All seasons vs. Winter tires. I'm debating on whether I should get a second set of rims for spring/summer/fall tires and put winter tires on the stock rims. The OEM Potenzas will not cut it this winter....really shouldn't have last winter either.

Curious as to what all you winter .orgers have.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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I'm running oem POTENZAS they suck when it rains people can tell you. snow well whats really good when its slippery out? nothing prob.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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toyo proxes 4 all season tires, 235/45/17
mee too! AWESOME tires!!!!!!
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Falken Ziex 512's are the best value , offering the best performance for stock size replacement- I have 25K on this set and still my wet pavement traction is unreal.....
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20-TURBO
mee too! AWESOME tires!!!!!!
I love those tires man!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
Falken Ziex 512's are the best value , offering the best performance for stock size replacement- I have 25K on this set and still my wet pavement traction is unreal.....
Me too.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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I love those tires man!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have been a toyo fan for YEARS! I had the FZ4s on my other car, and the 4s are 1000X better. cant wait for the snow!
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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there should be a poll. I'm also looking for good rubber
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
there should be a poll. I'm also looking for good rubber
toyo 4s. TRUST me. best tire out there...
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20-TURBO
toyo 4s. TRUST me. best tire out there...
I agree!!!!!!!
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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ok, thanx guys.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Im running Pilot sport a/s in the stock size, havent tested them in snow but that will come soon, as for wet/dry traction both are amazing, these will be my wet weather tires when i finally get my new rims, dont know when that will be considering they are 750 bucks each, plus tires......

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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toyo proxes fz4 bout $108 compared to the $170 for potenza. I think I got myself a new pair of shoes.

******** is that good? cheaper prices out there anyone? ***********
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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I kinda like those tires your talking about "Nokian WRs ". How much did these tires go for?

Last year, NY got dumped with some good snow at certain points and I did get stuck with the crappy potenza's. I switched to all season tires but I'd be interested in buying some winter tires.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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i'm running the blizzak lm22 for snow what an awsome snow tire..
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20-TURBO
toyo 4s. TRUST me. best tire out there...
I second that!!! Toyo Proxes 4s--245/40/18
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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NOKIANS - Price & selling mine

They go for about $178 a piece. Very expensive, but very worth it.

I am selling mine, for $450 mounted on SE rims. They only have about 2000 miles on them. I haven't even listed them on the For Sale section yet. Just made the site.

Click for pics & info

Originally Posted by RAZORFISH228
I kinda like those tires your talking about "Nokian WRs ". How much did these tires go for?

Last year, NY got dumped with some good snow at certain points and I did get stuck with the crappy potenza's. I switched to all season tires but I'd be interested in buying some winter tires.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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This will be my last summer with the Potenzas. I'll switch to Pilot Sport A/S's next spring (I want wet traction). In the winter I run Dunlop Winter Sport M3s. Not the stickiest snow tires, but better than the Potenzas.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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dammit....figures you're selling 16's....I am looking for some cheap rims for/with snow tires, but have to have 17's to clear my Blehmco BBK... And that's a great deal you're offering....
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Toyo Proxes 4 are the bomb. Just installed them last week and very pleased. I do not forsee any issue with snow driving. I drove in the 2002 blizzard with the craptenzas so I know these ***** will do great.

$108/ea is the best deal I found two weeks ago. www.edgeracing.com

Fast delivery (3 days) and no hastles.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Toyo Proxes 4 are the bomb. Just installed them last week and very pleased. I do not forsee any issue with snow driving. I drove in the 2002 blizzard with the craptenzas so I know these ***** will do great.

$108/ea is the best deal I found two weeks ago. www.edgeracing.com

Fast delivery (3 days) and no hastles.
i got my 235/45/17s for like 450 shipped.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Summer = Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Winter = Nokian Hakkapaliitta 2

I live in Canada.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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I also have the michelin pilot all season sport, and couldn't belive how well they ran compared to the potenzas. Wet traction is fantastic, great in snow, had no problem with a chicago winter. I do notice they ride firmer than the potenza, but not obtrusively so. They were expensive, almost 2oo bucks a pop, but their tread rating wares to about 50,000 miles.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Im running Falken ZE512's on my SE 17's , and Michelin Energy MXV4's on my SE 16's. Both are all season tires, but dont be fooled, the best setup would be to get a High Performance summer tire for your set of nice wheels, and snow tires (Blizzaks, Pilot Alpins, etc.) for your winter wheels.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisky97SE
Im running Falken ZE512's on my SE 17's , and Michelin Energy MXV4's on my SE 16's. Both are all season tires, but dont be fooled, the best setup would be to get a High Performance summer tire for your set of nice wheels, and snow tires (Blizzaks, Pilot Alpins, etc.) for your winter wheels.
My Falken 512's have been very good the last 2 winters, and I spend alot of time in the mountains on ski trips, so I do alot of snow driving......
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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I'm putting 16" Goodyear Ultra Grip on this winter. The Potenza's won't be safe on the snow and ice. I'd bet you could buy them for about $100 each in real American dollars (about $125 Cdn Peso's).

I've heard less than favorable results on Blizzard. I 'm lead to believe the stickiness of the compound that makes them good in snow ends up being too soft, and doesn't retain it's stickiness. The result is one good winter of traction. That makes them a bit rich..
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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It looks like I will be ordering some Toyo proxes!
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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I'm running the best winter setup available.
It's called the Ford Explorer winter plan.
I throw the Max (with the craptenzas) in the garage all winter and 4x4 it.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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any tires are better than blowtenzas......
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by aliti19
I'm running the best winter setup available.
It's called the Ford Explorer winter plan.
I throw the Max (with the craptenzas) in the garage all winter and 4x4 it.
That sounds like the best plan I've heard. Now if I can just find a reliable 4x4 for less than new winter tires and new rims...I'm there. Those Armadas and Titans look real nice.....not quite in my budget right now. I just paid off the Max.....the budget needs a stress break.
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