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Old 11-06-2004 | 01:05 PM
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how much do the 17 INCH ALLOYs weight?

how much do the 17' alloys weight, make sure you mention if thats with or without the tire
Old 11-06-2004 | 02:09 PM
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I belive its 26-27lbs for the 17" SE wheels with NO tires. Put some 14lbs wheels on it and you will think you just gained like 30HP- 3.0L atleast.
Old 11-06-2004 | 02:11 PM
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with stock tire they are about 50 LB and the rim are about 23lb
Old 11-06-2004 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC TAR
with stock tire they are about 50 LB and the rim are about 23lb
Chill, the Potenzas don't weigh that much. Rims + tire weigh about 40lbs. Just the rim is about 25.
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may I am wrong . I remember the thing hole add up to 50 lb.
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:51 AM
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take it easy on the 14lbs rims, the speedometer might f*ck up. the rims are too light. 14lbs is a dramatic difference on the speedometer.
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Chill, the Potenzas don't weigh that much. Rims + tire weigh about 40lbs. Just the rim is about 25.
Try 52lbs and change.... I owned 2 sets.....
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2kVQboodah
take it easy on the 14lbs rims, the speedometer might f*ck up. the rims are too light. 14lbs is a dramatic difference on the speedometer.
That's the biggest load of BS, lighter wheels don't hurt a speedo ... The size of the wheel/tire combo throws off the calibration but if the right wheel/tire size is chosen then the effects are minimal
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Chill, the Potenzas don't weigh that much. Rims + tire weigh about 40lbs. Just the rim is about 25.
Where in the world did you get this info? Ever try weighing one? I had a 17" SE wheel shipped to me and the shipping weight was 26lbs and the combo is approx 50-52lbs depending on the age of the tire and the type of scale used.
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Try 52lbs and change.... I owned 2 sets.....
maybe the 5th gen and 5.5 gen wheel weights are diff.....
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
That's the biggest load of BS, lighter wheels don't hurt a speedo ... The size of the wheel/tire combo throws off the calibration but if the right wheel/tire size is chosen then the effects are minimal
Yeap. Someone got
Old 11-08-2004 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
maybe the 5th gen and 5.5 gen wheel weights are diff.....
Nope, only difference is the 2k-2k1 has covered lugs and 2k2-2k3 have exposed lug nuts
Old 11-08-2004 | 07:04 AM
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Wheel weight issue is overhyped....I'm actually going to add weight to mine, doing the core exchange
Old 11-08-2004 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
Wheel weight issue is overhyped....I'm actually going to add weight to mine, doing the core exchange
Lighter wheels bottom line are better. Better acceleration, better braking.... When going lighter I recommend forged for longevity....
Old 11-08-2004 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Lighter wheels bottom line are better. Better acceleration, better braking.... When going lighter I recommend forged for longevity....
Thats ricer hype- been there ,done that with my past cars- Only holds true for same size diameter wheels, not what most people do here-they go bigger
in diameter thus defeating the benefits
Old 11-08-2004 | 07:38 AM
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Back to the original question--- I weighed my wheels last week & they came out to 51 lbs with Michelin tires..

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Old 11-08-2004 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Try 52lbs and change.... I owned 2 sets.....
You're right. I wrote it down when I weighed mine with the Potenzas still on, I found the paper in my old wallet and it was 47lbs -- that's with a worn tire, no lugs and no center cap.
Old 11-08-2004 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jace1283
how much do the 17' alloys weight, make sure you mention if thats with or without the tire

23 lbs, 14.9 ounces without tire and with center cap which the '00 and '01 wheels had - a center cap.

And the comment of wheel weight affecting the speedo, that's the biggest load of hooey I have heard in years......
Old 11-08-2004 | 09:15 AM
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Yeah, the weight of the rim has nothing to do with the mileage readings. Only an out of spec size would do that.
Old 11-08-2004 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Nope, only difference is the 2k-2k1 has covered lugs and 2k2-2k3 have exposed lug nuts
aren't the 5th gen wheels 16's and the 5.5 17's?
Old 11-08-2004 | 10:12 AM
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O.K. everyone, that being said, what is a good lightweight forged 18" x 8.5" wheel. I currently have some 18 X 8.5 BBS RS2's and am thinking of going lighter in the same size. I have them shod with 245/40/18's which are the closest in diameter to the stock 17's w/Potenza's.
Old 11-08-2004 | 10:20 AM
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Volks or SSRs. There are few other companies too.
Old 11-08-2004 | 10:29 AM
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Compressed air probably weighs more than the tire.
Old 11-08-2004 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BP2K2Max
aren't the 5th gen wheels 16's and the 5.5 17's?
Uhhh...no. Jusy by looking at everyone's signature here you could've known that most SEs (some came with 16) were 17''.
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
Thats ricer hype- been there ,done that with my past cars- Only holds true for same size diameter wheels, not what most people do here-they go bigger
in diameter thus defeating the benefits
Unsprung weight is unsprung weight. Not ricer hype, its physics. Less weight moves faster......
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Originally Posted by BP2K2Max
aren't the 5th gen wheels 16's and the 5.5 17's?
Not all, 2k1-2k3 SEs are all 17s. Early 2k SEs the 17s were optional
Old 11-08-2004 | 01:42 PM
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I didn't have the cash for SSR's or Volks so I got 17x8" Kosei K1 TS's. At 15.5lbs they're fairly light. For tires I used 245-45 Toyo Proxes T1-S they weigh 24.9lbs.

So with a total weight of 40.4lbs I removed about 10 to 12lbs of unsprung weight. Thats 20-24lbs off the front where it counts.

If you're stuck on 18's then it's SSR Comps or Volks. The Comps in 18x7.5 weigh 15.4 and in 18x8.5 weigh 16.8 they're also $400-430 each. Also the Comps in 17x8 only weigh around 14.4lbs

MichaelAE is selling his 18x8.5 Comps w/tires but IMHO I think $2K for used is a bit steep, maybe you don't. Take a look.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=ssr
Old 11-08-2004 | 01:51 PM
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so the weight of 51lbs, is that for normal SE wheel+tire or for the AE wheel+tire?
The wheels for AE are slightly more heavier than the normal SEs.
Also, I have a separate set for winter, 16" with tires, which are 10-15 lbs lighter than the stock and i can really feel the extra HP free up (used in turning the wheels)...
Old 11-08-2004 | 06:01 PM
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I had 60lb Konig Tantrum 18x8" with Potenza Pole Position S03s on my Maxima, when I moved down to 16" 300ZX Z32 NA wheels in black that weight 16lbs each and 225-50-16 Yoko AVS Intermediates not only I was able to chirp 2nd gear with just a POP charger and Ypipe, but I was able to even chirp 3rd gear- on a stock clutch. My wheels n tires weight 23.5lbs. Now I sport some RPO1 Enkei which are know to be very light and I weights them at 14lbs on my scale at work- 17x8.5 with 35mm offset, along with 255-40-17 SP9000 Dunlops- which are really heavy I'm at 28.5lbs at each corner- traction and cornerring abilities are excelent.
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Not all, 2k1-2k3 SEs are all 17s. Early 2k SEs the 17s were optional
oh, i didn't know that, my dad's 2000 max has 16's, i thought they all did. but thank you for a nice, civil response.
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Originally Posted by Cutlr7
Unsprung weight is unsprung weight. Not ricer hype, its physics. Less weight moves faster......
Physics are for ricers
Old 11-08-2004 | 07:27 PM
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aren't lighter rims easier to bend when hitting a large pothole?

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Originally Posted by mdloops
aren't lighter rims easier to bend when hitting a large pothole?

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Possibly, but not all rims are the same. You wouldn't have any problems with decent quality wheels assuming they are in the 17-20lb range. FWIW my 2k2 rims weighed 49lbs with the RE92s. My current Enkeis w/235/45/17s weigh 43 lbs.
Old 11-09-2004 | 08:08 AM
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Physics are for ricers
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahh...I resent that remark..I'm a Physics major!!
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Originally Posted by mdloops
aren't lighter rims easier to bend when hitting a large pothole?

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