ok i didn't really want to post this but i can't really seem to find an answer or decide. if u go to group deals there is a really good deal going on rite now for the pr cai. i was just wondering even wit that deal would it be worth it to get that intake or juss go for then frank or berk. sorry for another intake thread.

I think people might have different opinions, probably depending on where they live and the weather conditions in that area. The PR CAI is the only intake that actually brings in cold air from outside of the engine bay. Although there are dyno results posted showing the intake making more power as a warm air, I'm pretty sure under normal driving conditions the results are the opposite. The GD on the Place Racing is a great deal, I ordered one from it myself.

it just seems like everyone wit 02's like the wai better then the cai cuz it doesn't seem like to many 02's are trying to get that GD

check this out, studman did a dyno and found the WAI to be the best gains

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=195391

oh wow i looked at that but i think i miss read the numbers...thanx for pointing that out to me again haha. do the wai sound as nice as the cai?

If you read at the bottom of the original posters first post in that dyno thread, he states that he believes the cai makes more torque. Just wanted to point that out.

I really do appreciate his efforts to go and perform these tests, though a graph for each run would have provided more usable information so we could see the entire rev range and which provided best results overall. Peak numbers sometimes aren't good to go by, it's where the power was added.

Example, some dynos for a given mod show a small 8 hp pk, but earlier in the rev range, a peak of 12-15hp could be noticed and even though it wasn't peak, it's still usable power.

"Area under the curve"

Even though I don't promote either intake, it's still food for thought.

aahhh good point. ah wat to do wat to do

Usually the rule of thumb is for good low-mid range power, a CAI is best, for good high end power, teh WAI is the way to go. Think about where you want the power, if you live in a stoplight to stoplight environment, or in open rural area.

I live where open roads are plentiful, so I like high end power adders.

hes got some dynos on his website...the ones from 2/28/03 seem like the logical ones that he posted in that thread, i just cant match up the numbers while im at work, im not totally paying attention.

http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/dyno.asp

haha.. everytime i see these threads, i automatically know its a new member to the org because i posted one when i was super nooby. WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

He's actually been here a year longer than you, though you do have more posts. . . .

either way get the pr since you dont have to use the lower piping if you dont want to.
don't forget your hood is open during a dyno...I would assume it's a small factor since less heat stays in. enough of these threads already. just about everything everyone says on these threads is opinion.

a lot of people already have intakes....and some people think it's a big deal of taking a holesaw and making a little hole for it. :shrug: . not to bash anyone : but it's no big deal.

either way your not getting tremendous gains so i dont know what all the hooptla is all about.

I bought the Berk from Bryan at Berk Technologies about a month ago since they had (and still have) a GD here on the org. I have been extremely happy with both the performance and the improvement in sound the Berk has provided and am very glad I went that direction.

well i live in the suburbs so its kind of both stop and go and then highway. if u don't use the lower piping then does it turn it into a wai?

thats what i get for not getting enough sleep.

thanks and sorry for the mistake

SOONR1, did you feel decent low end gains with your Berk? thats what i have on order right now.

Hmmm.... I seem to think that I lost some low end and gained some high end... ...although in the cold... it feels nice and peppy throughout....

thats good, since i probably wont be getting my y pipe, exhaust, and UDPs on until well into spring, i could use some peppyness in the cold. i only ask about low end cuz its always stop and go driving around here.

The 3.5 doesn't really need to add low end at all, it has plenty, unlike the 3.0, I also agree with stevay, it's a minimal amount of power either way.

The end result is more sound than perf.

I agree... the sound is nice... ah, the ricer in me....

thats true nmex, but you could ALWAYS have more low end torque

if its more sound then wat sounds better...pr cai berk or frank?

i got the PRI from the GD
and i got the 02
alot of people with the 02 got on the gb too
go for it, its a steal since they usually go for 220$

That leads to exessive wheelspin, it's cool for the funfactor though, I would other hear screeching tires rather than intake noise .

Well, the throttle response felt better on the butt dyno, but overall you won't feel much (or hear much difference for that matter) until you get it up around 3000-3500 rpm's. But when you do, damn it's nice.

which intake sounds better anyone?

To me Stock or GAB, as stated earlier it's all a matter of opinion.

Buy the CAI, and play around with it, WAI, or leave the stock resonator on and use the lower tube etc. etc, see what you like.

Sorry, but I really that's a question ya need to answer yourself. Everyone is gonna have a different opinion and some of us may not even have heard that many intakes. I've only heard Frankencar and Berk intakes and have no idea how an Injen (at least on a Maxima, but I've heard it on a Honda) or PR intake sounds. Its your money and you're buying it for your car, so how about you find out first hand for yourself how they sound. Find some local org members and check out what they have, if you really value sound that much. I bought the Berk based on the fact that many people here who have it love it in terms of fitment and quality and Bryan was awesome to deal with. I can say that it sounds good now that I have it, but it doesn't matter to me honestly. I'm not trying to give ya a hard time, but some things are a matter of personal preference and I think this is one of em.

yea i know....its juss that i've heard how great berks sound and wat not but never really about pr BUT i have juss bought the pr cai cuz of the group buy so hopefully i like it and i'll let you guys know

Well, if ya look at how much money you saved on the PR... its worth it... enjoy it and let us know how things turn out...

Exactly. During dyno runs the hood is open, with a huge fan blowing COLD air into the engine bay, effectively making a WAI into a CAI, but only for the dyno run. It definitely will effect the results. Now, close the hood and drive in the real world, and the WAI becomes just that, a Warm (hot actually) Air Intake. A CAI will be a better choice for real world everyday driving, as cool air is always better than hot air for engine performance.

How much was the BERKS when it was on the good deal from Bryan... also how much would a midpipe cost from him also if he offers it?

Thanx!

Prices will vary.... PM Cobymoby and ask Bryan himself for the current deal....