HP Autoworks Short Shifter
12-01-2004, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eleebob7
Just out of curiousity, is this just the shifter or the whole thing (shifter + housing)? I always thought that replacing only the shifter causes undesired stress on ur tranny.
12-02-2004, 05:21 PM
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Test fitting is done and it looks like we have a huge success on our hands and for the Maxima community. The shifter was installed in less than 15 minutes with basic handtools. Although, I havent driven a manual Maxima very much, the shifting seemed solid while it was still parked. I had PhxBlue (George), feel the gears and at first glance didnt seem to worthy, as it felt firmer but not really shorter. I had him take the car for a spin to get a better feel and when he came back......I think the smile on the face was from the shifter.......unless he saw a hot girl or punked some honda on the way back (JK). Anyhow, my immediate question was how did it feel. His response was that it felt very solid and very smooth and shorter then before. He said it looked like a winner and here we are now.
After speaking with my engineer, he informed me that the shifter is currently set at about 34% reduction in throw. Going any past that could/would sacrifice longivity of the shifter and cable components being prematurely worn due to stress and cable binding. This peice is virtually troublesome free and there really wasnt too much we were looking for to go bad BUT its always better to be safe right?
We have already began mass production of these STS and will be ready in the next week and ready to ship. As a special for the Maxima.org community, we will be having a HP Promo Sale of 149.00 Shipped!!, with a normal site price of 179.00, and MSRP of 219.00. The first production run will only be 30 units, so it will be first come first serve. Just order off the site and note "Maxima.org" in the comments section, and the correct price will be adjusted. Email me if you guys have any questions. Thanks and enjoy the first 00-03 Maxima STS!!
After speaking with my engineer, he informed me that the shifter is currently set at about 34% reduction in throw. Going any past that could/would sacrifice longivity of the shifter and cable components being prematurely worn due to stress and cable binding. This peice is virtually troublesome free and there really wasnt too much we were looking for to go bad BUT its always better to be safe right?
We have already began mass production of these STS and will be ready in the next week and ready to ship. As a special for the Maxima.org community, we will be having a HP Promo Sale of 149.00 Shipped!!, with a normal site price of 179.00, and MSRP of 219.00. The first production run will only be 30 units, so it will be first come first serve. Just order off the site and note "Maxima.org" in the comments section, and the correct price will be adjusted. Email me if you guys have any questions. Thanks and enjoy the first 00-03 Maxima STS!!
12-02-2004, 07:10 PM
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Thank you everyone for purchasing so far. I appreciate the support and hope to help you guys out further. While the site is being updated, you can paypal us at hpautoworks@***.net if ya like. Thanks to all!
12-02-2004, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by harmbone2k2
Now I have to tell the wife that my stock shifter is going bad so I can get this. Great Job HP and thanks phxblue!!!
12-02-2004, 07:15 PM
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Credit card in hand, scanning your site for the update. Please post the link as soon as your done. With only 30, I want to be in on it!!
Wife constantly complains about the shifter, this will give me an excuse to upgrade!!
Thanks HP Autoworks!!!!
Wife constantly complains about the shifter, this will give me an excuse to upgrade!!
Thanks HP Autoworks!!!!
12-02-2004, 07:19 PM
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Shifter is now on the homepage of the site. Pics are kinda blurry but you get the general idea. Remember that if you order off the site, to note in the comments section "Maxima.org" and the price will be adjusted after checkout.
12-02-2004, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hpautoworks
Thank you everyone for purchasing so far. I appreciate the support and hope to help you guys out further. While the site is being updated, you can paypal us at hpautoworks@***.net if ya like. Thanks to all!
12-02-2004, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by makavelisk
So Andy, we keep all the same parts except for the piece that the cable goes through and the the actual shifter sits in, right???
12-02-2004, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Igor911
is that reallly the picture on the website....
That does not look like a shifter. How many more are avail
That does not look like a shifter. How many more are avail
We have around 30 or so thats still good.
12-02-2004, 10:15 PM
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I'm excited, but I'm also a bit confused. All the short shifters I've seen for other cars not only shorten the throw, but also include a shorter stick (or stalk, or whatever it's called) such as the B&M one for '95-'01 Maximas shown here:
or the Stillen one shown here:
Yet yours seems to be just a simple piece of machined aluminum that may shorten the throw, but not the height of the shifter itself. So being a noob to the technical details, I'm hoping you or someone else can clarify this for me.
or the Stillen one shown here:
Yet yours seems to be just a simple piece of machined aluminum that may shorten the throw, but not the height of the shifter itself. So being a noob to the technical details, I'm hoping you or someone else can clarify this for me.
12-02-2004, 10:20 PM
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what you're showing above is the simple technology of adding a bearing in between a straight pipe with twice the travel with movement. so when you move your stick, the lower section moves twice, 3x's, etc... as far. that's what creates the "shorter throw". the shorter stick does NOTHING at all, but is done prolly for looks or whatnot. the main force of those STS's is the bearing in the middle.
12-02-2004, 10:46 PM
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Polo, you are absolutely correct. As a side note also, those shifter pics you see are also those that are not equipped with cable trannies, such as the 00-03 maximas along with the new altimas and sentra spec v's. Being that there is a cable setup, there is no way to incorporatte a shifter like that, plus a reverse mechanism would be almost impossible to incorporate w/o being very very costly.
12-03-2004, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hpautoworks
Polo, you are absolutely correct. As a side note also, those shifter pics you see are also those that are not equipped with cable trannies, such as the 00-03 maximas along with the new altimas and sentra spec v's. Being that there is a cable setup, there is no way to incorporatte a shifter like that, plus a reverse mechanism would be almost impossible to incorporate w/o being very very costly.
Thank you! That answered my question.
However, do you think this GB will go on for a while? I have to wait for a couple more paychecks before I can afford it.
12-03-2004, 01:02 AM
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Well people, HP did an awesome job on this thing. Throw is definately shorter and very smooth. I was very happy as I was banging through the gears going up and down the road behind HP's shop. Most noticeable to me was first to second gear. On my car stock, that throw seems to be humongous and takes forever. Now its short, quick, and pleasing. You guys are awesome over there at HP. BTW Andy, that is one sick "G" you got!!
12-03-2004, 03:50 AM
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So that "joint" is basically moving the fulcrum further up the stalk/stick. Ok, so now I understand how those previous non-cable short shifters worked. Thanks for clearing that up guys.
So my next question is (sorry, but I'm sure there are plenty of others who are curious/confused like me) do you have pics of your new product installed but without the shift boot and console in place?
So my next question is (sorry, but I'm sure there are plenty of others who are curious/confused like me) do you have pics of your new product installed but without the shift boot and console in place?
12-03-2004, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluesbrekr
I'm a bit confused. Will we will still use the stock shifter lever?
The kit just includes the fulcrum thing and not the 'stick' correct?
The kit just includes the fulcrum thing and not the 'stick' correct?
12-03-2004, 06:49 AM
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Cable Shifters
In a Cable Shift System, there are usually two levers. One is the actual shift lever located within the center console. This is attached to the second lever, located on the transmission with cables. HP's Short Shift Kit focuses on the transmission side, thereby leaving the reverse lockout mechanism in the center console able to still function.
12-03-2004, 08:09 AM
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I would like to see some reviews from more people. For the price you're not getting much as far as the amount of metal used to make the part. For instance look on hpautoworks site, the Comptech Short Shifter for the Acura RSX looks to contain more metal and needs more CNC work to get the finished product and costs less than half the price. Also the Nissan Short Shifter: 02+ Nissan Spec V / Altima contains 3 pieces and has a hell of a lot more metal and costs 20 bucks less.
The reason for not including a new shifter arm is obvious, the reverse lock out.
I believe I can shorten the stock arm and still keep the LO functional but I would need an arm to do it and you'd need a new **** but it can be done. It's just that'd it'd be a PITA for a company to produce a complete new one, design and production wise. My problem is I can't afford the down time right now and doing the first one always takes longer to complete. I would figure it would take me a few days to get the 1st one done. The combination of HPAW's product and a shortened arm would be sweet. If someone can find 2 or 3 shift control assemblies from totaled Max's I could do it. I’d need more than one to make sure the height is right and 1 for core swaps.
If there is interest I'll start a new thread about it and cover more of the details, as I don't want to ***** this one up, even though it's not in the FS or GD forums it's still not right.
The reason for not including a new shifter arm is obvious, the reverse lock out.
I believe I can shorten the stock arm and still keep the LO functional but I would need an arm to do it and you'd need a new **** but it can be done. It's just that'd it'd be a PITA for a company to produce a complete new one, design and production wise. My problem is I can't afford the down time right now and doing the first one always takes longer to complete. I would figure it would take me a few days to get the 1st one done. The combination of HPAW's product and a shortened arm would be sweet. If someone can find 2 or 3 shift control assemblies from totaled Max's I could do it. I’d need more than one to make sure the height is right and 1 for core swaps.
If there is interest I'll start a new thread about it and cover more of the details, as I don't want to ***** this one up, even though it's not in the FS or GD forums it's still not right.
Ill be ripping through the gears...
12-03-2004, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaMan77
I would like to see some reviews from more people. For the price you're not getting much as far as the amount of metal used to make the part. For instance look on hpautoworks site, the Comptech Short Shifter for the Acura RSX looks to contain more metal and needs more CNC work to get the finished product and costs less than half the price. Also the Nissan Short Shifter: 02+ Nissan Spec V / Altima contains 3 pieces and has a hell of a lot more metal and costs 20 bucks less. .
I would have loved to keep the cost down like Comptech has it BUT A. we are not nearly as large of a company B. We dont have a order for 2k of them like the RSX has and C. They have actually had problems with theirs, so its actually been redisgned again. Its all about market demand and pre-orders. The Spec V shifters, we had pre-ordered over 500 of them to get the pricing that we got it for.
I dont want people to think that we are ripping anyone off.