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Old 01-12-2005 | 11:27 PM
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so are there fitment issues on the 5.5 gen or not, cause i seem to be finding both sides...???
Old 01-12-2005 | 11:41 PM
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so are there fitment issues on the 5.5 gen or not, cause i seem to be finding both sides...???

The only fitment issues I have heard with any Ypipe have to deal with the Warpspeed ypipe on 5.5 gens.
Old 01-13-2005 | 01:41 AM
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i was really wanting a cattman y pipe, but it seems to hard to get for a good price

so i will be in for a budget y pipe for my 2k
Old 01-13-2005 | 05:06 AM
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So long as it'll fit on the 5.5th gen, I'd be interested in either the ss or aluminized version (price dependant, of course).
Old 01-13-2005 | 05:58 AM
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Well I know I want the SS one the winters here in philly are brutal.
Old 01-13-2005 | 07:59 AM
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has anyone here ever had both the budget and the cattman y pipe? i was going to definitly go with cattman but after hearing about this group deal going on i might be changing my mind depending on if there is a gain difference between the two y pipes for a 2002 auto.
Old 01-13-2005 | 08:46 AM
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I know you've probably decided on a y-pipe instead of headers for a good reason, but if your only reason for not choosing headers is the high high cost of VQ headers vs just a y-pipe, you might want to look at the Hotshot headers for the VQ35. They're almost half the price of the Cattman headers, and not much more than the Cattman y-pipe.
Old 01-13-2005 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by spiromax
I know you've probably decided on a y-pipe instead of headers for a good reason, but if your only reason for not choosing headers is the high high cost of VQ headers vs just a y-pipe, you might want to look at the Hotshot headers for the VQ35. They're almost half the price of the Cattman headers, and not much more than the Cattman y-pipe.
But also aren't headers a huge investment up front in terms of installation time, installation costs, and other "little" things? I mean they take longer to install because they are much harder to install (heard some things about HS headers needing a little tugging and scraping), ya need to extend and weld the O2 sensors to the b-pipe or get an O2 simulator, and its recommended that ya get some sort of tuning done with at least an SAFC or something.

Btw, I'm just trying to consider all the information about this, hopefully it'll help people decide how far they wanna go with their exhaust mods (and because I'm doing headers eventually, I'll learn from this), so don't think I'm hatin on ya...
Old 01-13-2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
But also aren't headers a huge investment up front in terms of installation time, installation costs, and other "little" things? I mean they take longer to install because they are much harder to install (heard some things about HS headers needing a little tugging and scraping), ya need to extend and weld the O2 sensors to the b-pipe or get an O2 simulator, and its recommended that ya get some sort of tuning done with at least an SAFC or something.

Btw, I'm just trying to consider all the information about this, hopefully it'll help people decide how far they wanna go with their exhaust mods (and because I'm doing headers eventually, I'll learn from this), so don't think I'm hatin on ya...
It's cool. Yes, headers will take a little bit longer to install, but the Hotshot headers come with everything you need to extend the O2 sensor wires (instead of using a simulator to fool the sensors). It's not exactly the easiest mod in the world, but you did say that you're eventually going to go with headers, so instead of spending the money on a y-pipe which you will be unable to use when you upgrade to headers, you could just go with headers to begin with.

As for engine management/tuning, just installing bolt on mods like headers, exhaust, intake, pulleys, etc. doesn't necessarily require any special engine managment. Some people with all the bolt on mods have seen more gains by tuning with the Apexi SAFC, but it is not required, and you will still see nice gains without using the SAFC. If you do choose to get an SAFC later on, I recommend either reading a lot or getting somebody who knows what he's doing to help you tune your ride with it, and you need to have access to a dyno to make sure it gets done right.

*EDIT*

Even though I prefer headers myself, I might actually end up going with a y-pipe because I don't have money to burn, and while the HS headers are cheaper than the competition, they're still more expensive than some of the y-pipes on the market. I'm torn between blowing my money on a y-pipe now or saving for just a couple more months to get the HS headers.

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Old 01-13-2005 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spiromax
... so instead of spending the money on a y-pipe which you will be unable to use when you upgrade to headers, you could just go with headers to begin with.
I already have a Cattman y-pipe to "tide me over" till I have the time and money to get headers done... I know... shoulda just saved the money and held out for em headers.... but for a student like me, the cost of a y-pipe plus $2.50 to buy wires to extend the 02 sensor is a lot different from $550 for HS headers plus all the time additional costs to install em....

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... Some people with all the bolt on mods have seen more gains by tuning with the Apexi SAFC, but it is not required...
I agree with ya there... its not required... but from what I've heard from people on the .Org and with other cars, recommended... and only if ya know what you're doing and if ya get it tuned on a dyno with a good wideband 02 sensor...
Old 01-13-2005 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spiromax
*EDIT*

Even though I prefer headers myself, I might actually end up going with a y-pipe because I don't have money to burn, and while the HS headers are cheaper than the competition, they're still more expensive than some of the y-pipes on the market. I'm torn between blowing my money on a y-pipe now or saving for just a couple more months to get the HS headers.
Exactly! That still torments me every night as I lay there waiting to fall asleep... haha...
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:16 AM
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I'm in Cali so it doesn't matter which one I get (SS or alum). I guess it all depends on price
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by S00NR1
Alright, since we can't really do this in the group deal forum anymore, everyone who is interested in buying a budget ypipe if it were on sale please post in here and I will send them this thread.

count me in
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:24 AM
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Budget Y-pipe

I was supposed to be saving $$$ to get some Illuminas, but If we get can get a good deal going on the SS Y-pipe, I'm in too. I would really like to see dynos, or hear from members who may have had both Cattman and Budget Y-pipes. But like Soonr1 said, to save a $150, I'd sacrifice a few HP. Hopefully there's no fitment issues, and it 'll be just plug and play kind of deal.
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:24 AM
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SS for me, even though our winter has been extremely mild...
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:27 AM
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Budget Y-pipe

I just posted this in the other thread, but I'm in too if the price is right. Most definitely SS, though. I'm here in Hawaii, and you wouldn't even know it's winter right now, but there's a lot of salty air around here!
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:27 AM
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i am interested in a SS one... keep us updated.
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:55 AM
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i am interested in the group buy also
Old 01-13-2005 | 10:59 AM
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I'm down for a SS Y-pipe.. but when are we getting a price? I'm also getting a WSP Cat conv. Damn it, can't wait to install these.
Old 01-13-2005 | 11:01 AM
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I should be hearing from Jody at Budget any time now on a price.
Old 01-13-2005 | 03:34 PM
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Well, didn't hear from Budget today so I guess we will still have to wait until tomorrow before we find anything out.
Old 01-13-2005 | 03:53 PM
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Very interrested in SS version for 02.
Old 01-13-2005 | 06:48 PM
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I'm in for ss
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Old 01-13-2005 | 06:53 PM
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One question. I've read conflicting accounts of whether or not installing a Y will throw a code. I've heard that you need to run a O2 sim where the precat O2 sensors connect into the system (dual sim) and I've heard that you don't and that the stock O2s will be fine there. So, which is true? O2 sim needed or not? I'm sure there are others who would also like to know the truth on both the 5th and 5.5th gens.
Old 01-14-2005 | 10:41 PM
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BUMP. Lets hope this comes together.
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