would you need to get 04 brake hoses or are stock hoses long enough

 

Does anyone know about the caliper fitment?

 

Anyone, anyone, Buehler Buehler??

 

caliper fitament? It bolts right up....

there was a new thread on this...look around.

I have te 6th gen calipers and rotors on and they fit just fine (but not under the 00-01 wheels )

 

Let me clarify. I have a 2005 Maxima. I want to know if 90-96 300ZX calipers bolt right up to my car?

I know that people are putting on 04-05 Maxima rotors with the 300Zx calipers. I just didnt know if the 300ZX calipers fit on my car or not. If not, what do I need to get ot make them fit?

 

hmm.... Well, i thought you said they fit with G35 rims, so..since you have the G35 rims why aren't they installed instead of sitting there?

 

are you talking to me?? My 6th gen calipers have been on for over a month now....and they fit under both my G35 18's and my G35c 17's....

 

"and now I have 2 brand-new caliper assemblies sitting around..."

I saw this on your first post.. i thought they weren't on. So i was just wondering,don't mind me.. hmm.. i still need money to fix my brakes..sigh..they,ve been making the stupid squeeking sound for 2 weeks now. I shouldn't spent too much money on my cymbals...

 

check the date of the first post....2 months ago

 

congrates dude....new brakes and rims huh? sponsor me...

 

I'm getting the parts together for this upgrade should be done within a month ,
I was just wondering if anyone knows if this fits a 98 maxima
same caliper, rotors, brake hoses as my 2k maxima, I searched through the 4th gen forum with no luck

 

Hey, lost Dave Burnette's number, can someone pm me it so I never lose it again?

 

Sorry, found it, and for anyone else wanting brakes, this is a great place ($) to get them. 1-512-444-1400.

 

Folks:

I'm wanting to upgrade the brakes on my 2002 Maxima by using 6th gen parts. I am concerned about the added weight of the 6th gen rotors vs. the 5.5 gen rotors. Could anyone refer me to a lightweight 6th gen rotor which isn't too expensive?

Andrew

 

well...they're all made of steel (let's hope), so it's unlikely that any of them are going to be significantly lighter than others......

if accelleration is your concern (added rotational mass and all that), then perhaps upgrade to lighter wheels instead (the stockers are very heavy).....

the 6th gen calipers and rotors are noticeably heavier than stock. You can definitely feel it....that said, I'll give up a tiny bit of accelleration speed for superior braking any time......

 

hmmm . . . I thought most rotors were made out of iron? I'm hoping that a slotted or x-drilled rotor might be lighter . . .

 

Like irish said, the rotors are a little heavier, but you could reduce your overall unsprung mass by getting lighter rims to go along with your bigger brakes. I know that would add considerable cost to your project, but a good set of lightweight rims will more than make up for the added weight of the 6th gen rotors. Motegi Trak Lites are light, but very expensive. Rota makes several wheels that are much lighter than the stock wheels, and theirs are priced more reasonably than the Motegis.

 

iron indeed, I misspoke....but you're splitting hairs a bit here

sure, slotted or x-drilled may be slightly lighter....but they have their own downsides and, frankly, no upside for normal daily driving except for "looks."

by the way, I auto-x my maxima and also deal with 80-0-80 traffic on the DC beltway on a daily basis, so my brakes have seen heavier use than 95% of the people here, and weight is always a concern to me (when auto-x'ing). That said, I have no plans to switch to cd or slotted rotors for any reason.....

 

Thanks guys. I am currently running 18" OZ Superleggara rims which are much lighter than stock - I think they are about 18-19 lbs each. I really like the feel of the car with the lighter rims vs. the OEM heavier rims. Pick up is much snappier. I'll just have to make a choice. BTW I do a lot of 80-0-80 driving here in NY as I commute into and out of the city every day and traffic on I-95 can be very bad . . .

Thanks for the input.

Andrew

 

learned a lot from thsi thread.

So where is the cheapest place to get spacers? and i'm guessing a great look would be 15mm spacers in the front and 20 mm in the back?

 

What bolt do I need to remove the 6th gen calipers?

 

I hate to bump this, but this thread applies the most to me. I've got a hunch that my brakes on my 01 are warping (or at least the pads are wearing material on the rotors making it seem like they are warped ). After a long trip (~2hrs) I will slow down off of the highway and I hear a repetitive 'wah wah' sound as I let it coast to a light/stop sign. Once I begin to apply the brakes, I can feel a vibration in the pedal, as well. What's weird is that it doesn't do it on short trips. What could cause this?

I've got 82k on the clock, I'm the second owner (bought at 69k), and I can't remember/don't have the information at school w/ me, when the first owner did the brakes. I am leaning towards replacing my brakes w/ a 6th gen setup, but as stated in this thread, they won't fit under my wheels without spacers (10mm).

So it looks like 05 rotors/calipers are the cheapest route to go new (according to 2005 prices, who knows what they are now). Is it completely necessary to buy new? Is it smart to buy used from a junkyard, or would I just risk more warping? Also, is there a group buy for the H&R spacers mentioned? I have been looking and couldn't find one. Are they the best quality? If not, who should I go with? And while I'm at it, I would consider getting 20-25mm spacers for the rear, (VQPower how-to) I think they really make the stock wheels look great. Again, sorry for the bump. Any input is greatly appreciated!

 

Did you test fit a 12.6 rotor and caliper yet? I keep hearing that the 6 spoke wheels from the 00-01 don't fit but when I've measured both wheels (00-01 & 02-03) have the same amount of space between the inner spoke and the rotor face. I have yet seen a different in the clearance of the 5th/5.5th gen. My 03 once installed with the 6th gen rotor/caliper had roughly about .040-.050" clearance of the caliper and spoke close but cleared and run this setup for about 6 months until my new wheels bad used the 03 TE wheels for out of town wheels since they were more tolerant to bumps/potholes than the lightweight aftermarket wheels ever dreamed of being. I have a spare test fit setup( 1 side only) and I suggest you find a wreck 6th gen and pull the assy or Maybe I can ship you mine and you try it out. All you really need is the caliper cause the rotors are all the same thickness and offset in the hat/hub area. PM me....

 

why not just turn your rotors and get a quality set of brake pads? Rotors don't warp. It's simply pad deposits on the rotors. At least for my case when I used cheap pads

 

Did you read through all of the posts in this thread? Irish put the whole 6th gen setup on his fronts and then tried putting his '00 OEM 17" wheels on and it woudn't fit. The caliper wouldn't clear the spokes.

 

That's not out of the question, I'm just trying to figure out what to do. I talked to my uncle this past week, and he's very mechanically inclined. He suggested to take my car out and bring it up to 70mph, then brake hard down to 20, without stopping, three consecutive times. I did this, and after the third time it smelled like something was burning. I'm assuming the pads were just extremely hot. I had another 2hr trip last night and the brakes still make the noise when I am slowing down to a light. So is it safe to say that what I did didn't work?

 

Maybe there's a notch behind the spoke cause the inboard edge of the spokes on 00-03 are the same distance from the rotor outer surface. And no, just cause someone else tried it doesn't mean it won't work. Take your wheel off, and take a picture of the inboard side and measure from the spoke inner edge to the rotor outboard surface and tell me what you get. I'll measure mine with pic so you'll know what I'm talking about and post it.
The reason for the warpage is simple...too small a heatsink for that vehicle, I put 5 different (brands) of rotors & pads on my old 2000 and even upgraded from the 11.0" 00-01 rotor to the 02-03 11.75" and they still warped;too small, too much material removed from inboard side to clear the now larger spindles, poor ventilation, and Nissan pads suck but changing pads don't increase heatsink qualities either. That warpage issue with brake material building up on the rotor is all B.S., anytime large amounts of heat are applied to a component heat distortion (warpage) will take place... it just mattters on the mass and density of that object and how fast it can dissipate the heat and cool down and maintain it's proper structure. That my friend is what's not happening with those puny rotors!

 

Perhaps there was a running change in 6th generation front calipers where the out portion's thickness decreased?

That could account for different accounts of clearance with similar wheels.

 

Yeah that's possible cause I do no 04 are diffrent p/n's than 05's. I've checked 3 different 00-01 SE with the 17" six spoke wheel and all spoke to rotor surface were the same as my 03 polished 17" SE's....

 

So are the rotors different sizes from 04-05? I thought the issue wasn't rotor clearance, it's caliper clearance. The rotor from a 6th gen shouldn't have any problem, it's the caliper.

 

As you mentioned, CourtesyParts lists different calipers (for pre- and post 05/2004 vehicles). If these are in fact dimensionally different (where the outer pad holder thickness varies), then the answer could be one set does work with 5th gen wheels, and the other requires a spacer.

Since other reports of this upgrade seem to imply this is not an issue, I would be inclined to assume the early calipers do not work with the stock wheels, and the later models do. Although, this assumption should be confirmed be expectations are made.

You are correct, the issue is not rotor clearance. The previous post was refering to the dimension from the rotor/wheel interface to the inside of the wheel's spokes at the caliper.

 

Ok, so it looks like if I go for the 6th gen setup, I just have to make sure I get 04 calipers. Does anyone have pictures of a 00-01 w/ 04 calipers and rotors? I'd be really interested to see this to confirm. It'd be nice if the 04 calipers do in fact fit, that way I wouldn't have to buy spacers.

Also, anyone have opinions on getting rotors from a junkyard vs new?

 

Actually, this was verified by at least 4 different members, including me. There are multiple threads verifying it. The difference is very, very minor, but it is there. The 00-01 wheels will scrape the outside of the caliper. The 02-03 wheels clear by a very, very small margin. Caliper could be ground down a bit I suppose, but taking structural metal away from brake calipers is never a good idea IMO.

It is unlikely you will be able to get an accurate measurement within 1mm unless you have some serious precision measuring equipment. We're talking about margins of a few millimeters at best...

This is not accurate. It has been discussed to death and even PROVEN that the vibrations on the rotor are caused by pad material buildup rather than the metal "warping" in 9 out of 10 cases on 5th gen maximas. I myself did a "scientific" test of this (which I detail someplace on the org a few years back...if you want to read it, you'll have to search...i'm too lazy).

in short, I proved that on a "warped" rotor, all vibration could be eliminated by removing ONLY the pad material without cutting the metal at all. Yes, the pad material will flake off completely after several months in a very dry environment (inside a cedar cabinet in my bedroom closet in this case). And when it does, the rotor feels smooth as butter.

While you are correct in theory about the causes of heat distortion, this is more likely the case in extreme track use rather than regular street driving, where brakes are not heated up anywhere near their capacity, generally.

Pad choice is the major culprit - hence the reason why many people using OEM or OEM-replacement pads had this issue and many using certain types of a/m pads did not usually. Even Nissan changed the part number of the pad at some point, suggesting that they changed the compound slightly.


btw, if you look at the beginning of this thread, I actually refer to the rotors "warping" as well....but that was before I found out what was really happening, lol...

 

IIRC the part number difference is due to a slightly modified lip for the piston seals, not any actual different casting of the caliper press plate.

Obviously though if you shave down the pad a bit, the caliper gains wheel clearance. So measurements can only be accurately done assuming precisely identical pad thicknesses between brands. Perhaps alot of the A/M brands that most people use with the 6th gen setup (hawk HPS) have slightly thicker pads and therefore reduce the wheel clearance by a tiny bit vs. stock pads.

 

Do you know what year calipers the other members were using by chance? I know you said you used 05's and they didn't fit, but if the 04 calipers don't stick out as much, they might work.

 

Thanks for that info pad thickness only affects the caliper position (which is inboard of the adapter/holder) not the caliper holder/adapter. The adapter is fixed & the fartherest outboard part of the caliper assy.

 

That's funny to me that the 3-4 sets of rotors from my previously owned 00 warped 11.0" rotor show extreme runout and no signs of the pads material transfer. You know Irish those inboard sides of the 00-01 are missing about .75-1.0 of material If you compare the previous 3rd and 4th gen front rotor which were also 11" cast units there's a hella of alot of surface missing to clear the larger 5th gen spindle/knuckle. As for the reason for your experience of these calipers not clearing.????? I can do two things...ship this kid my junkyard fit kit and let him test fit the caliper assembly and wheels or find someone here in Houston and we'll place their wheels on my car and when it clears use the part# caliper assy I'm running. If, I'm wrong then I guess I promise not to respond to anyone for a month other words you band me...deal?

 

yes, obviously you're correct there. I don't know what I was thinking about other than it was a long, long day and I was tired

I think either way, it is easily dealt with through the use of some extremely thin spacers (maybe 3mm or 5mm at most)....give it a try though. I would certainly like to be proven wrong, as it would make life easier for those who want to do the 6th gen swap with an 00-01 on stockers!

 

Hey Irish, I followed the link in the thread about SS lines and it didn't take me to the right thread. I am looking to get new RTP drilled/slotted rotors and pads from AuToMaX_95 and I wanted to know about the SS lines. Would I need the SS lines for the 6th gen to make it for on my 02 SE because I'm looking to get the 6th gen calipers as well with AuToMaX's rotors and pads. Need a little help, thanks!

 

trying to find it....

btw, please please please do not get slotted and drilled rotors...I mean, unless you like quicker pad wear, more braking noise, and a good chance for hairline cracks in the rotor face. stick to blanks.