do you start from second
Originally Posted by roll4life
lately i've been starting from second gear..i barely use first anymore..could this harm the transmission in anyway later on?
Originally Posted by charliekilo3
What do you perceive to be the benefit of starting from second gear? It will be harder on your clutch in the end.
second goes up to like 35-45 mph and you can just switch to 3rd..just a little easier if you drive a lot
I start in 2nd or sometimes even 3rd in the snow / ice to get started moving (but that is rare since it rarely sticks here). I will also start in 2nd when I'm still rolling as in when I'm coming to a light and I'm out of gear but still coasting forward and the like.
But, starting in 2nd from a dead stop will, as has been stated, shorten the life of your clutch if you are letting the clutch out slower. Basically, your asking your clutch / 2nd gear to act as 1st gear and the friction material will be worn away much faster in doing so.
But, starting in 2nd from a dead stop will, as has been stated, shorten the life of your clutch if you are letting the clutch out slower. Basically, your asking your clutch / 2nd gear to act as 1st gear and the friction material will be worn away much faster in doing so.
Originally Posted by roll4life
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second goes up to like 35-45 mph and you can just switch to 3rd..just a little easier if you drive a lot
second goes up to like 35-45 mph and you can just switch to 3rd..just a little easier if you drive a lot
Originally Posted by roll4life
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second goes up to like 35-45 mph and you can just switch to 3rd..just a little easier if you drive a lot
second goes up to like 35-45 mph and you can just switch to 3rd..just a little easier if you drive a lot
Originally Posted by Barc
..but I do 1, 3, 4, 6 a bit with obvious variations in there depending upon traffic and posted speed limit. 

Skipping higher gears isn't as bad as skipping low then?
Vette trannies used to (and may still, don't know) skip from 1st - 4th unless you shifted above 2500 RPM(?) using something called CAGS (computer aided gear selection). This was on the 6-speed, of course, and it is not an optional thing on trannies equipped with it. It can be overriden with simple after-market stuff but anyway... If a Corvette putting down 300+ HP can withstand shifting from 1st to 4th at 2500 RPM and below I think the Max could do a 1st to 3rd easily enough, just in case you were wondering! lol
Originally Posted by young1976
whether starting in 1st or 2nd in snow you're going to burn ( feather) the clutch. If you go easy on the gas and clutch... you'll get the same result.
Originally Posted by Barc
Vette trannies used to (and may still, don't know) skip from 1st - 4th unless you shifted above 2500 RPM(?) using something called CAGS (computer aided gear selection). This was on the 6-speed, of course, and it is not an optional thing on trannies equipped with it. It can be overriden with simple after-market stuff but anyway... If a Corvette putting down 300+ HP can withstand shifting from 1st to 4th at 2500 RPM and below I think the Max could do a 1st to 3rd easily enough, just in case you were wondering! lol 

Originally Posted by mdloops
I think the Nissan owners manual actually suggest skipping gears for fuel economy.
I frequently ship 1-2, 2-4, then 4-6. Definately saves in gas! ANd at $2.20/gallon for premium, every little bit helps.
how could skipping gear be more efficient?!???
if you skip from 3rd to 5th, it means you got to at least 3kRPM on the 3rd... wouldnt it have been more fuel efficient to shift from 3rd to 4th at 2krpm and from 4th to 5th at 2kRPM again????
I think it is fuel efficient to gun the highest gear possible when cruising (without going too low on RPM), but when accelerating, I dont see the point of saving gas by skipping gear!
if you skip from 3rd to 5th, it means you got to at least 3kRPM on the 3rd... wouldnt it have been more fuel efficient to shift from 3rd to 4th at 2krpm and from 4th to 5th at 2kRPM again????
I think it is fuel efficient to gun the highest gear possible when cruising (without going too low on RPM), but when accelerating, I dont see the point of saving gas by skipping gear!
i skip 3rd gear often all it's good for around here is bringing you over the speed limit. i'll just rev 2nd a little higher than normal and go right to 4th. and i don't start in 2nd from a dead stop but if i'm rolling to a stop like at a stop sign or coming off an exit on the freeway i'll just leave it in 2nd and kinda bog the tranny for a split second. it's gotta be better than having to cram it into 1st.
Originally Posted by TheBigDu
You manual trans. guys are making me jealous 

I only start from 2nd from a roll or in inclement weather. I wonder sometimes if it is better to do that and let the car nearly stall because it drops below idle or buck the clutch in first.
I often skip 4th gear when accelerating on the highway when I don't need to get up to speed that fast. 3rd gear is skipped occasionally especially when there are a lot of cars that prevent speedy acceleration.
Of course not. I've probably done it once in my life because I forgot to put it into 1st. My dad used to do this sometimes, but as mentioned it's bad on the car, so no point.
I sometimes do skip 4th if I used 3rd to gun me up to speed, but that's about it.
I sometimes do skip 4th if I used 3rd to gun me up to speed, but that's about it.
Originally Posted by ABDomega
I only start from 2nd from a roll or in inclement weather. I wonder sometimes if it is better to do that and let the car nearly stall because it drops below idle or buck the clutch in first.
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