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Old 02-27-2005 | 08:56 AM
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Do these air intake sensor mods really work?

I have a 2000 Maxima SE and am looking at these resistors that replace your intake airflow temperature sensor claiming to give you 20 more horsepower. The resistance load signals to the ECU that the air temperature is optimal when it is not, causing more air and fuel to be taken in. Has anyone tried these things? Do they really work and do they decrease your fuel mileage? Is there any possibility of engine damage? If they do work, they are a pretty sweet mod for around $25.
Old 02-27-2005 | 09:00 AM
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let me guess..... you saw it on ebay
Old 02-27-2005 | 09:04 AM
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Read here.....
http://www.nextlevelracing.com/
Old 02-27-2005 | 09:07 AM
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first piece of advice is dont do it. the second thing is those dynos on that website. yeah, that looks like a 3 year old doing some drawings and not a dyno plot.
Old 02-27-2005 | 09:31 AM
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[Read here.....
http://www.nextlevelracing.com/]

Does anyone tried this before? or is this just a bull?
Old 02-27-2005 | 09:50 AM
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[Read here.....
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Does anyone tried this before? or is this just a bull?
I have.. and to me it works... but people here flame others w/o testing... so In my opinion and experience it works......
Old 02-27-2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
I have.. and to me it works... but people here flame others w/o testing... so In my opinion and experience it works......
do you have dyno comaprison?
Old 02-27-2005 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
I have.. and to me it works... but people here flame others w/o testing... so In my opinion and experience it works......
or did your mind subconsiously make you think that it worked so you wouldnt feel bad for wasting you money on something that does NOTHING for your car
Old 02-27-2005 | 11:55 AM
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or did your mind subconsiously make you think that it worked so you wouldnt feel bad for wasting you money on something that does NOTHING for your car
I'm not starting with you again.... It will be same as adding a rear muffler that sounds like crap and do nothing more than the stock one....
Old 02-27-2005 | 12:40 PM
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the reason people here flame is because there is no testing to prove that it works. they come up with a product that can add 20hp for around 100 bucks. if it works, then why doesnt everyone here have it? it should be an easy thing to uninstall. go to the dyno and do a baseline then add it back. if it can add around 20 even to the crank, you should see at least a 12hp gain even if you are auto.
Old 02-27-2005 | 12:52 PM
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I would pay $100 bucks for this thing if it even added 8 or 10 to the wheels. What else can you buy that adds 10 to the wheels for only 100 bucks besides a Y pipe, and maybe that timing advance?
Old 02-27-2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
I'm not starting with you again.... It will be same as adding a rear muffler that sounds like crap and do nothing more than the stock one....
you cant start...you have nothing to prove your point
the muffler gives you a sound, what you have gives you....uhhhh......well......NOTHING
Old 02-27-2005 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
you cant start...you have nothing to prove your point
the muffler gives you a sound, what you have gives you....uhhhh......well......NOTHING
this is basically what I think
Old 02-27-2005 | 02:45 PM
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Can these threads be locked as they pop up or something? Heh.
Old 02-27-2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
this is basically what I think
well im glad that in "lontar1 world" this mod works. cause if they worked in the real world we would all have them.
atleast you realize not to argue with me...you dont even try, you just post smilies
Old 02-27-2005 | 02:53 PM
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well im glad that in "lontar1 world" this mod works. cause if they worked in the real world we would all have them.
atleast you realize not to argue with me...you dont even try, you just post smilies
Ok kid what do you want to argue about. I have it in my car and I feel the difference what do you want me to do.. pay you a ticket to Florida so you can drive my car and once it for all shut up and stop complaiting about everybody elses stuff. That's basically what you do. If you know so much why don't you apply at a Nascar or some place where your car knowledge "which I doubt it" can be used in a good way instead of bashing and flaming everybody.....
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
Ok kid what do you want to argue about. I have it in my car and I feel the difference what do you want me to do.. pay you a ticket to Florida so you can drive my car and once it for all shut up and stop complaiting about everybody elses stuff. That's basically what you do. If you know so much why don't you apply at a Nascar or some place where your car knowledge "which I doubt it" can be used in a good way instead of bashing and flaming everybody.....

why would i want to drive your slow car when i can drive mine.
"i can feel the diffirence" is not a viable argument. use facts.

i just tell it how it is. i dont mess around and try to be subtle, thats pointless. i just say what everyone else wants to say but are to polite to. if people cant handle and they get upset thats not my fault.
everyone can tell you that i have contributed plenty to this forum. i just dont kiss people @sses
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan

why would i want to drive your slow car when i can drive mine.
"i can feel the diffirence" is not a viable argument. use facts.

i just tell it how it is. i dont mess around and try to be subtle, thats pointless. i just say what everyone else wants to say but are to polite to. if people cant handle and they get upset thats not my fault.
everyone can tell you that i have contributed plenty to this forum. i just dont kiss people @sses
I don't want you to kiss my a$$, the only thing I would like you to do is to be nicer to people..even if you think what they do is wrong. Everybody is entitle to their own opinion and you should be aware of that, you can critizize everything you want....but think first of what you are doing and why you are doing it. Have you tried any of this module before? Maybe not, you are just going with what other people say... call the company and try to get one for testing purposes... then talk....

And I don't race my car, and if my car is slow good I like it like that... If you ever drives down to Orlando "PM" me and I will lend you my car so you can have a taste of how fast or slow my car really is........talking w/o proof or Facts...
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:20 PM
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Okay friends, let's think about what really adds power. If you can get more air into the engine, the MAF will know and ECU will automatically add more fuel. You can get more air in by removing restrictions. Use a K&N filter for a $35 performance increase. You can get more air in, by using denser (cooler) air. Put in a cold air intake. You can increase air pressure, by boosting with turbo or s/c; or ram air (already on most Max's). You can get more oxygen chemically by shooting in nitrous. You can reach a point that you get so much O2 going in, the ECU and fuel system can't keep up; so fuel mods are required.

You can get more power on some cars with 'chip tuning', that raises rev limiters, shift points and gives more aggressive timing. Many performance chips REMOVE fuel; because factory fuel maps run rich, for safety at the cost of performance.

You can also have more power by removing parasytic drag on engine. Y-pipe, under drive pulley, bigger exhaust, lighter wheels are examples.

When you read about something that is supposed to add performance, ask yourself if it makes sense. A device that adds more fuel without more air being present would only cause damage (if it really works).

There are lots of things that can be done for ~$100 with a real impact, because they make sense. Go with the tried and true techniques - don't your waste money on crap.
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:24 PM
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any chance of causing damage?

Hey guys thanks for the input. So it sounds like there are mixed reviews, more negative than anything else. I haven't heard anyone give me a reason not to try it yet, other than blowing $25. Does anyone think bypassing the intake sensor like this could cause problems? Have the people with negative responses actually tried it? The concept of the device seems to make sense.
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
If you ever drives down to Orlando "PM" me and I will lend you my car so you can have a taste of how fast or slow my car really is........talking w/o proof or Facts...
the thing is..i dont think your module matches my intake, y-pipe, and straight pipe. and thats the facts
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
this is basically what I think
Its not that he's acting childish, he's just a Sooner. I'm with Lontar.
Old 02-27-2005 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Charliejag
Its not that he's acting childish, he's just a Sooner. I'm with Lontar.
and you are newbie
Old 02-27-2005 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
the thing is..i dont think your module matches my intake, y-pipe, and straight pipe. and thats the facts
So you spend all the money in the world to make your car faster good for you..... Good luck with your car soonerboy.......
Old 02-27-2005 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
and you are newbie
So the newbie means that you have more posts than him or what...... Damn I'm a newbie too......
Soonerfan......
Old 02-27-2005 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
and you are newbie

who cares how many times you post on a website?? my brother has NEVER posted on a website and he knows more about cars than anyone i know... calling someone a newbie as an insult to their car knowledge makes you look desperate...
Old 02-27-2005 | 06:02 PM
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alright, how come this thread has survived as long as it has?? lontar, just get over it...the butt dyno doesnt prove anything..and soonerfan, just shut it as well, because everyone knows you have a ton of posts therefore you seem more "knowledgable" but why not just stop arguing and get over it? IMO yall are both acting childish...just let lontar think whatever the hell his little mind wants to and dont worry about it anymore...
Old 02-27-2005 | 08:43 PM
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I have no idea how these perform on a maxima, but I had one on a grand prix I had and it worked. It was not in my mind, you could def. feel the difference. No, I never dyno it but you could feel the difference. And why flame somebody for putting one in? If he likes it and can tell a difference than thats great for him, if you dont think they work then dont buy one. But why go back and forth taking stabs at one another over something so stupid. Just my .02
Old 02-27-2005 | 10:57 PM
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*yawn* Lontar vs Soonerfan again... plus more discussions on eBay chips...
Old 02-27-2005 | 11:03 PM
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i had one in my old rolla.... maybe da car suck.... but know wt.... da only difference is 20-30km less per tank of gas.....
Old 02-27-2005 | 11:19 PM
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I didn't even spend the 100 bucks when I did this mod on my old '96 Taurus SHO, more like 5 bucks. I made my own with resistors from radio shack. Made a difference off the line, but i'm sure its not good for the longevity of the engine, check engine light also would come on and off frequently.

...These days, I wouldn't even think of doing this to my Maxima. IMO, it's a mod only worthy of something like an SHO.
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