how true is this??? tokico better than KYB??
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how true is this??? tokico better than KYB??
i just got off the phone with shox.com and the rep was telling me that if i'm going to go with aftermarket, he'd recommend tokicos over kybs. for clarification, i'm going softer with my suspension for my wife. the struts i'm considering are the kyb gr-2, tokico hp and illuminas. so between the two tokicos, he also told be that the hp would ride about the same as illuminas on maybe one or two notches in. meaning if i set the illuminas at the softest setting it would actually be softer than the hp. does that sound about right to you guys???
also, how accurate is he about the tokicos being better than kyb in general? i thought our oem struts were tokicos and were the culprit of all those blown suspensions a few years ago??
also, how accurate is he about the tokicos being better than kyb in general? i thought our oem struts were tokicos and were the culprit of all those blown suspensions a few years ago??
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the guys at shox.com is telling the truth Tokico is better than KYB ( KYB is very stiff in the cold) and the tokico hp setting is about 2 on the front and 3 the rear when compared with the illuminas . So yes, illuminas are softer when set at 1.
BTW Tokico makes OEM Nissan Maxina struts. if you don't like OEM Tokico you won't like HP. they ride about the same. I not fan of tokico or kyb. KONI baby!
BTW Tokico makes OEM Nissan Maxina struts. if you don't like OEM Tokico you won't like HP. they ride about the same. I not fan of tokico or kyb. KONI baby!
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#8
First, i have had no experience with KYB, so I won't act like I know anything about them. Two points I do know about:
1. The Tokico "Blue" is essentially the same shocks as our OEM ones (Tokico makes them as far as I remember) and will give you similar-to-stock ride quality.
2. The Tokico Illumina is well worth the extra money. They are adjustable. I keep mine on a "3" setting (1 through 5) with Maxspeed springs and my ride is BETTER than the SE stock springs/struts...Setting the Illuminas to 1 or 2 give almost a "luxury" ride, much softer (and more "boat-feeling" IMHO)...
Let's put it this way: with 1.5" drop, illuminas, and most of the other suspension stiffeners available for the maxima, plus 18" wheels, my ride is MORE comfortable than stock.....
My suggestion - you can't go wrong with the illuminas.
1. The Tokico "Blue" is essentially the same shocks as our OEM ones (Tokico makes them as far as I remember) and will give you similar-to-stock ride quality.
2. The Tokico Illumina is well worth the extra money. They are adjustable. I keep mine on a "3" setting (1 through 5) with Maxspeed springs and my ride is BETTER than the SE stock springs/struts...Setting the Illuminas to 1 or 2 give almost a "luxury" ride, much softer (and more "boat-feeling" IMHO)...
Let's put it this way: with 1.5" drop, illuminas, and most of the other suspension stiffeners available for the maxima, plus 18" wheels, my ride is MORE comfortable than stock.....
My suggestion - you can't go wrong with the illuminas.
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#9
Hey guys,
Sorry for such a newb question, but how do you guys adjust the illuminas and other adjustable shocks/struts? I'm guessing for the front you just open the hood and it's right there? Or is it at the bottom and you have to take the wheel off? Thanks.
-Brian
Sorry for such a newb question, but how do you guys adjust the illuminas and other adjustable shocks/struts? I'm guessing for the front you just open the hood and it's right there? Or is it at the bottom and you have to take the wheel off? Thanks.
-Brian
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#11
Originally Posted by irish44j
there's a dial on the top of the strut.....use a flathead screwdriver. Fronts are easy...rears you have to open up the trunk paneling to get to them, obviously...
I guess when you're doing test runs to see how comfortable it is, you could just drive around with your trunk paneling off for easy adjusting.
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#15
Originally Posted by NYPD-Arnold
I'd just like to point out that Blues are not OEM replacements. They are 10% stiffer to accomodate a drop of 1.5'' or less. They are aftermarket.
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#16
Originally Posted by serin
thanks guys. exactly what i was looking for. illuminas it is. shox.com has em for ~$489 for a set of four. unless i find a much better deal, i'll be ordering them tomorrow.
I would check the GroupDeal forum before doing anything so quickly. In fact, there is a very long post there with a 5 star rating. I should post the link, but that takes the fun out of it. As a teaser, it says in plain English:
Tokico Illuminas
95-99 - #BB3102, #BB3103, 2x #BU2905 - $455 shipped
00-03 #BB3188, #BB3189, (2)#BU2943 - $455 shipped
95-99 - #BB3102, #BB3103, 2x #BU2905 - $455 shipped
00-03 #BB3188, #BB3189, (2)#BU2943 - $455 shipped
Ok, I lied, here is the LINK
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#17
i would've gotten the Illuminas, but i got my AGX and Teins for $220 used. Great handling, but comfort isn't to great. I've driven maximas with the Tein and Illumina Combo and its the best combo i've ever felt.
Illuminas all the way for adjustable shocks!
Illuminas all the way for adjustable shocks!
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#21
get the tokico's - i dont know where kyb got off saying their gr2's are twin tube "gas" shocks, it's more like twin tube cement shocks! it's like off roading on the actual road! i'm switching over to tokico illuminas this spring! good luck
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#23
Originally Posted by irish44j
2. The Tokico Illumina is well worth the extra money. They are adjustable. I keep mine on a "3" setting (1 through 5) with Maxspeed springs and my ride is BETTER than the SE stock springs/struts...Setting the Illuminas to 1 or 2 give almost a "luxury" ride, much softer (and more "boat-feeling" IMHO)...
My suggestion - you can't go wrong with the illuminas.
My suggestion - you can't go wrong with the illuminas.
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i have the GR-2's and i don't like them at all. they aren't comfortable and when going over bumps, they make an uncomfortable sound. in the cold they, only the rears move (factory nissan struts in rear). i'm gonna get illuminas, they sound really good, haven't heard anything bad about them.
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