I will be in the process over the next couple of days completing my new brake setup which includes a 2k4 rotor upgrade using Matt Blehm's 6th gen relocation kit. I will keep everyone updated of the progress in this thread as I get the job done and I will make sure to take plenty of pictures. I will go ahead and leave you this picture of the 2k4 rotor compared to the 2k1 rotor to leave ya hangin...

EDIT: Project Complete! Check my webpage for details.

 

you could tell they are bigger. will they warp as easily though as 2k2-2k3 rotors? how much for a complete kit? what size are they and can you use 200zx tt calipers with them? are the rotors bigger then 13 inch cobra rotors?

 

Being that they are a much larger rotor (12.6 inches), as long as a good brake pad is used that will dissipate heat across a better area, they will not warp...AT ALL. This is actually just the 150 dollar 6th gen relocation kit that allows us 5th genners with 17" rims or larger to upgrade to 2k4 rotors using the same 5th gen calipers. However, they will only work on 2000-2001 vehicles.

http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.html

 

nice, i have a feeling my rotors are warped. i get vibration at 60+ mph when braking. Let us know how this goes, also the full price to make it fit with stock 17" rims. What pads you recommend? i guess hawk? so all we need is this rotor and proper pads?

 

You will need the rotor, pad, and the 150 dollar kit. That's it. The 2k4 rotors were the same price from automax_95 as the 2k1 rotors were.

 

congrats lance
what you really need is a TCM

so why wont this work on 02/03s?

 

i second that...i thought at first it was because it wouldnt clear our stock 17s, but on that website, it shows a pic that does....

 

only thing i can think of is the caliper mount is diffirent so the relocating kit wont work

 

i was thinking this earlier, but i always thought that all the 5th gen's (5/5.5) brakes were the same...i guess i was wrong....i really like the way these rotors fill up the entire wheel though, and i definitely would like it if they didn't warp as often (although mine haven't yet...im sure they will soon)...so if they CAN fit on a 5.5 gen, I'll be getting them as soon as my brakes need replacements.

 

So you don't need new calipers?? just the relocation kit and the rotors?

 

maybe i should buy a 2000 so they will fit

 

Yup, that is correct.

 

mm hmm...i'm sure you'll just do that tomorrow, wont you? haha ... well if they ever make a relocation kit for the 2k2 (which i'm sure they will) i'll be all over it

 

Hey why doesnt someone with a 2k2-2k3 that lives close to sooner ride meet up with him and try it cause by looks of this pictures it should fit, i kows its 2k2 wheels on a 2k but that means it will clear unless the calipers are bigger on the 2k2-2k3, which i doubt they are. So why dont you have someone meet up with you and try it on a 2k2 or 2k3 i think it should work
try

 

that sounds like an OK idea, but if it's already proven to not fit (by matt blehm) iit probably wont, and it would be a waste of time to see if it did, in fact, bolt up to a 5.5 gen...like we said before, we dont think its the issue of clearance, its whether or not the relocation kit for the 5th gen will bolt right up to the 5.5 gen or not..

 

Ya, Matt Blehm is the brake expert here -- I will send him this thread and have him put in his two cents.

 

Oh ok i feel like a retard

 

i didnt mean to make you feel like a retard, i was just putting my 2 cents in! In the end, i may be the one to be proven to be the retard...let's just wait until matt, himself, tells us what's right and wrong!

 

The 5.0 gen brakes are slightly smaller than the 5.5 gen.

there's about a 1/2" difference in the rotor size, which is all done in the torque arm on the caliper.
so if you bolt my 5.0 gen relocation kit up to a 5.5 gen, the calipers will sit about 3/4" away from the top of the rotor- only allowing about 1/2 the pad to contact the disc. NOT cool.

it's also impossible to make a new bracket to fit the 02-03 caliper under the 04 rotor either, because of the difference in size... the bolt holes would actually overlap and there's no way to fit 4 bolts in the place of 2 like the 5.0 gen kit.
http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...n/IM000850.JPG
http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...n/IM000851.JPG
you'd have to make the distance between the bolts a 1/2" closer, and you can see I'm already having to trim one bolt head to make it fit. no way you could do it.

 

lol alright thanks but i still feel kind of wetadededed

 

That's no good....so for us 5.5 gens, a full BBK is our only option, other than stock? so much for that then!

 

well dam it...not i have to go by an 00 or 01

on second thought...im good with my stock brakes

 

Just swap out the knuckles from a 00-01, should be no problem finding these at a junk yard, complete with wheel bearings. I have 04 rotors and TTZ calipers with Blehmco brackets on my 01 :P

 

I warped a set of 2k4 rotors with Axxis Metal Master pads using this kit, so don't say they're unwarpable. However, these were OEM Nissan rotors.

Since then, I installed some 2k4 iRotors, cross-drilled and slotted. Mated to these are a set of Bendix IQ Titanium pads. Had these on since October, no warpage so far, and I drive ~45Kmi/year. I've felt vibration here and there that I thought was the early stages of warpage, but occasionally it goes away.
(Then again, that seemed to always be the pattern whenever the rotors would warp in the past, there would be a period of "teasing" where they would feel warped one day, and then OK the next... but that period wouldn't last very long like it has with these)

 

if i knew what part you were talking about, maybe i would try it! But since i'm not too familiar with cars yet, i'll leave it to someone else to figure out...

 

The knuckles for all 5th gens are the same. the difference is in the calipers..

So you could bolt on the complete 2004 brake system (calipers and rotors), you could go with my Z32/2k4 rotor kit, you could go with any other full-blown brake kit, or you could get a set of 5.0 gen calipers and my relocation brackets and bolt on the 2004 rotors.

You just can't use the 02-03 calipers for anything.

 

I will take some pictures for you guys of the install so hopefully you can see what Matt is talking about. I have decided to mate the new rotors to Wagner ThermoQuiet performance pads which very few ppl on the Org have so that should give me something else to report on as well.

 

well if this were the case, i'd rather just buy a full-blown BBK than buy the 5th gen calipers AND the relocation kit AND the 2k4 rotors...oh well, that just means there isn't really a cheap alternative for us 5.5 gen-ers

awesome! can't wait to see how they turn out! good luck with the install!

 

If anyone with a 02-03 is interested in some 01 calipers I have a set that I didn't think I would ever find anyone interested in- I would let them go for like 75 bux plus shipping. They are not painted or anything.... just throwin some wood in the fire for anyone who wants to do Matts excelent kit with OEM calipers and 04 Maxima rotors

 

wouldnt our other alternative be 300zx calipers with 13 inch cobra rotors with the hubcentric rings and brackets?

 

few questions:

relocation kit is only needed if we stay using your 00-01 calipers?

Would u consider 04 calipers better? just a lot more expensive? Isnt this the best alternative since it involves no extra pieces, no hubcentric rings and whatnot...?

how much would an 04 irotor/04 rotors package cost vs 04irotors/reloc kit vs 04irotors/300zxtt calipers?

and what pads work the best against warping? or even what combo works best against that as well?

 

a few notes:
the 04 calipers/rotors bolt right up to stock (2000-2003). The only downside is that they will NOT fit under some 17's (including the 2000-2001 wheels)...

check out this thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=389452

 

02-03 17s will fit.. clear it by 1.5mm hehe ..close.. but they fit...

 

ok now how much would that setup cost that dizma96 has and what do you need exactly?

 

almost 400.. like 380 or so.. you should contact daveB... get 05 calipers, rotors, pads, hardware.. i got it for about 380 from a buddy of mine that works at Nissan..

 

for that money i rather buy the 13 inch cobra rotors and calieprs instead.

 

what ever floats your boat.. it was all bolt up.. same brakes as the g35 sedan..

 

take some good pics when you are done, i'm excited to see how it will look on a AE with stock rims..... i might just have to follow you and try this on mine if all goes well with yours.

 

Soonr1, just curious to see how far you are from Dallas....

 

I am actually exactly two and a half hours from my parent's home near DFW airport -- I live in Norman, OK.