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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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Hey guys i have pruchased a Frankencar Intake and wondering what kind of gains you guys got I mean dyno proven before and after thanks
Old May 4, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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I've got the Frankencar intake but have not dyno'ed it yet...I did dyno my car last year when it was completely stock and put the K&N drop in filter and got a 3-4HP gain. I'm sure that the Frankencar is significantly higher that that.
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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well i put one in also and the improvement on acceleration is drastically different.

no dyno though
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Very little...

See here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=376123

I have a Berk, which is essentially the same as the Frankencar, and it doesn't feel like I gained anything at all....
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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althought this debate will rage on til the end of time, the seemingly best intake is the GAB. but it doesnt give you the same sound as Frankencar or Berk. For that sound, and ASSumed performance of the GAB, see deckdouts GAB2.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401208

either way, in reality, the intake is for the sound, your gains are gonna be minimal.
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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Yes, this is a neverending debate... even though NmexMax has generously spent his time and money getting us those dynos.... so I'm not sure why... haha...

Old May 4, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DaBoxSE
I did dyno my car last year when it was completely stock and put the K&N drop in filter and got a 3-4HP gain.
You got 3-4 from just the drop in with nothing else? That's awesome. I gotta get me one.
Old May 4, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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My car is a bit of a factory freak but I can 100% say that my car had gains. Put it in, noticed it. Put in Injen, lost power, put franken back in and poof butt dyno was showing gains. Also have gone back to stock for a while and put it back in after a few months and imediate results.

Here is my dyno with just intake, stock everything else.

Old May 4, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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I cut an inch off of each side of the Frankencar midpipe and hooked it up to the factory airbox with a K&N panel filter, and I like it better than with the Stillen cone filter. It is not anywhere near as loud, and I feel my lowend again.
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dblrr900
My car is a bit of a factory freak but I can 100% say that my car had gains. Put it in, noticed it. Put in Injen, lost power, put franken back in and poof butt dyno was showing gains. Also have gone back to stock for a while and put it back in after a few months and imediate results.

Here is my dyno with just intake, stock everything else.

224 with an intake and catback? Yeah, your car is a freak alright...
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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224 with an intake and catback? Yeah, your car is a freak alright...
must be sprayin....
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Deckdout2
must be sprayin....
Nope.... I've seen his car... under the hood too...
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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dude, i'm tellin ya i've never had a berk or frankeincar intake, but i can definately see how you would get alright gains and no loss in lowend power because it being a short ram. with the injen being a longer tube not sure what "really" causes it to rob lowend power, but our cars definately crave the warm air more than cold air. this is probably why the GAB works so well, and has saved me from spending more money .......as ghetto as it is.

my advice......ghetto the helll outta it
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Intakes shmintakes. From what I've observed is that cone filters only(no m/p)amplify the exsiting curve and a midpipe changes the shape of the curve. Just look at frankencars website, it may peak more but the curve has a better shape in stock form, m/ps do some weird **** with the curve.

Speaking of curves looking at it with jsut the mid-pipe, there's a small increase over stock at 4.8-5.2, a small dip 5.2-5.5, and a small gain after 6k. That small dip is also noticed on 350Z's maybe b/c of the stock stright m/p I also did an average of the curve from 4.5k-6.5k and it showed a 1hp difference, not only in peak, but average also. And with the m/p and GAB it has the annoying wail of the berk/frankencar, annoying if you ask me, and I like "sleeperism". But if 1hp or noise is worht it to you, then do it. I'm hesitant to do the whole set-up of an after market intake b/c the MAF issues. Call me crazy/dumb/whatever Also, SR20DEN dynoed comparing K&N as the only mod and showed no gains, but all cars are differn't on different days.

All this is IMO ...
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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^^^ So basically all you're saying, is that you're as GHETTO as I am and a few others here?
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Ghetto Fab!!! Ghetto GAB ...

I went through so much money time and effort with my 4g on intakes and it wasn't worth it ... Now I'm ghetto yo!
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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intake gains are mostly at the middle to high end, with many people experiencing small loss of low-end. But like any mod, it reacts differently depending on what other mods you have (y-pipe, headers, exhaust, etc etc)
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Try this thread for those of you who don't believe an air filter's internal construction doesn't matter...

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=398674
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Puppet and myself have obviously... and my comments were more based on midpipe stuff, b/c I've always been a fan of the Stillen/JWT vs the franken/berk style. The fastest auto 5.5gs use em ... reason enough, nice dyno BTW ..
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Originally Posted by jenk01SE
Try this thread for those of you who don't believe an air filter's internal construction doesn't matter...

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=398674
I had a question on that... did ya try the JWT filter with a midpipe similar to the FC midpipe? Since you're comparing head units to head units, wouldn't it make sense to include a run with that set-up so you're keeping all else constant while comparing the filters? It seems to me that that was the goal, and not the comparison of the set-ups in terms of a WAI w/ mid pipe vs a WAI w/o mid pipe, which is what I get out of those plots.
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All we did was unbolt the Apexi filter and bolt on the JWT filter, both with the same Frankencar midpipe...
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jenk01SE
All we did was unbolt the Apexi filter and bolt on the JWT filter, both with the same Frankencar midpipe...
Gotcha... thanks... nice work...
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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I've been quite pleased with the "gains" my Berk/K&N has added in the year it's been installed on my car. No dyno's, but I can feel a difference over the stock airbox.
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Thanks. Now I need new motor mounts. Then wet N2O and a new clutch/flywheel.
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jenk01SE
Now I need new motor mounts.
http://www.suspension.com/nissancars.htm

Old May 4, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Well From personal experince back when I was younger.
Ive play around and tried alot of intakes for my Altima.
5spd-ers have more benifits with a Short Ram
Auto-ers have more benifits with a CAI
this is based on the 4cyc altimas.
My N/A setup was a JWT pop and Weapon R midpipe.
I was N/a and also used a CAI . the CAI just made more noise but during the winter times (in FL) or Night times when its cooler...the CAI would work just fine..But during the days when it was hot my car seem sluggish not to mention the Rain we get and the water I sucked up one day and almost crap my pants when the engine stalled. I went back to a Short Ram because I was a 5spd and Notice every shift wasnt as sluggish during the hot day time and not to suck in water (AEM bypass is a overrated item). In the end I gave up all the Debate and boosted the crap out of the KA24DE(T).


Personally now Since Im a Grown *** kid now.. I love having a Quiet car..(plus the PoPos dont notice you as much)

The only question is . Since the Maxi is new to me..being a 6cyc. and Auto. Does anyone seen a Gain with a Midpipe installled? The 1st thing I did was buying a K & N drop in filter.. I stay away from putting on my JWT from my altima on the max cause I just didnt want it loud. does just the K& N do fine by itself WITHOUT a Midpipe? or Is there maybe a slight differnce? im still debating if I should get a midpipe if any gains are there or just leave the OEM pipe.? any suggest Maxima's Experts? Ive read all these post and links But really still looking for a Soild insurance answer in this post.
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Grown *** kids don't say "PoPos"
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go
Grown *** kids don't say "PoPos"
..or post intake threads, when there are 14500000 other ones already on file.
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If you're grown, are you not a kid ... Grown as.s kid = oxymoron.
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A Grown Man can always act like a Kid sometimes? if your in your 30s and act like you grandpa then you seriously have a stick up your @$$. I wont never act my age because the ones that do die of a slowly boredom. Now for those who acutally reply to my *grown *** kid and PoPo* .. Take a chill pill. I say PoPo or 5.0 because The way I was raised in enviroments where I still hate them and love to debate and question thier methods or Due process and there end of month ticket giving.

Now If someone would get off the damn subject of a *GROWN KID* answer my question since I cannot search and would like to hear some EXPERTS opinions.Thank you in advance for any Suggestion. The rest can really drink a beer or go puff some smoke or something.
Old May 5, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
224 with an intake and catback? Yeah, your car is a freak alright...
Just Franken Intake with K&N NO Catback at that time. It was at a Dyna day at SRT in MD. There was like 15 people there too.

If you look at the dyno, I had my lowest # on the first pull. That was when I took the K&N off to see if I would pull better. Actually I want to say the first two were without the filter. #3 was with filter and like 7HP higher

The other thing I learned was the warmer the car got the harder it seemed to pull. When doing a dyno I recommend to warm it up good before a run.

If it wouldnt be a complete waste of time and money I would like to Dyno it now with Catback, but could honestly care less. I only did the first fyno to help fill a spot on the dyno day to make it happen.
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