So this has been discussed to death in a general sense, but can't seem to find where it's addressed specifically.

SOOO...the question here is NOT "Which B-pipe is better"

The question is: "Which B-pipe will bolt directly up using the OEM rear section (muffler)?

Don't be and start an argument about other crap or rear sections....just answer the damn question

edit: 2 more things:

1. I know for sure that the Frankencar B-pipe will bolt directly up.

2. If anyone is SELLING a mandrel-bent B-pipe that will bolt directly up, PM me...

 

Ha i love it, getting straight to the point .

I have this set up and it doesn't directly bolt up but comes damn close. The shop that did mine just used a torch to heat the rear section up just enough to bend the rear section piping and it came together just fine

 

^^ i thought the WSP b pipe required cutting the stock rear section and welding/clamping no? I thought cattman and FC were the only true bolt on b pipe only applications....

 

No it has flanges so it bolts up just like the FC and Cattman

 

ok i just thought it didn't cuz of the directions...the directions on their site state that you need a hacksaw...

 

Another guy in the other franken exhast post said his Franken B pipe worked ok.

Stop being a ninny and get the whole thing.

 

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....64#post3960064

That is the one.

 

Rob and Joel....paypal $100 each to my account, and I'll get the whole FC catback

 

seriously. not only that, having that shiny muffler, no matter what style, draws attention. i'm over it. i like the sleeper route. actually one of my friends looked at my car and was like "d00d your new muffler is weak!" i was like "foo! it's stock!" ahhahaah

 

dont' get me wrong, I like the rear section of the FC alot...it's very classy looking, and I'd love to have one....but at this point, I can't justify $500 just for minimal performance gains and nice looks.....better things to do with my money.

 

oh i like it too. in fact i bet it'd sound better too. but yea the midpipe is really where the gains will be at, the rear section is probably good for one more whp. Maybe when the muffler is shot (like at 150k miles lol) i'll get a new one. the b pipe is stainless so it's not like it's a big deal.

 

Josh, Honestly, I would pickup an ebay special like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33630

That OBX B-Pipe I had was the bomb and the whole system only ran me $175 at the time. I would pickup this POS system here and sell off the rear to some knuckhead and keep the B-Pipe. Just a thought.

 

^^ F/C was having a sale on his b about 2 weeks ago, 175 shipped. I had a friend who was not happy with his OBX unit, it was too loud with a y-pipe on his 2000.. Just giving you opinions as I too am in the market for exactly what you're looking for, but with my headers I have to be careful as to what I get because I don't want any sound increase, or at least want keep it to a bare minimal.

 

yeah, i'm bitter I missed that GD......

 

hmm what made you want to get the b-pipe? what's the gain with it? why not a y-pipe? i'm lost on how many pipes are down there so don't bash..i know the stock headers are connected to the stock y-pipe+ cat then to the resenator and then the muffler?(not sure if thats right)..i know im kinda off-topic here,im sorry about that..but i've been wondering about this for a while and i dont think it needs an entire thread just for someone to correct me

 

Stock headers/manifold -> stock/aftermarket y-pipe -> main cat -> b-pipe -> rear section (inc. piping from b-pipe to muffler)

After market headers (inc. y-pipe section, different from aftermarket y-pipe) -> main cat -> b-pipe -> rear section

 

I'd recommend you stay away from the WSP crap. I had his b-pipe and it cost me return shipping and a credit card refund fee, but it was worth it to get rid of that POS.

 

what was wrong with the WSP b pipe? i only talked to one person that had an aluminized mandrel one with a resonator and he seemed to like it.

i thought the FC b pipe was 190...i got mine through the GD but i forgot how much i paid

 

ah i see, so i can get a y-pipe..leave the main cat on..get a b-pipe and the muffler? and its either a b-pipe or a catback exhaust..can't get both right?

 

yea but if you want headers that y pipe is gonna go

 

Right, but like Ghetto said.... if ya want headers, then you'll have to lose the y-pipe... so consider your future plans carefully first....

 

I'm guessing fitment... seems to be a common issue with WS....

 

i see, if i was roll4life i'd just get the y pipe and save my money. my car on the other hand i'd go with the full ish

 

ah i see...thanks a lot for making this clear for me guys..but what exactly are the gains you get with a b-pipe that you don't get with a catback? or is the b-pipe just a cheaper alternative?

 

I think the idea is that the stock muffler flows pretty well as it is... and from the looks of the b-pipe, with all the crimps in the bends (smaller internal diameter => flow restrictions) it seems that some gains can be realized if ya got a nicely mandrel bent 2.5" b-pipe. And yeah, the b-pipe alone is cheaper obviously, if ya wanna forgo the looks and sounds of an aftermarket rear section. But, bear in mind that even though the stock muffler flows well, some have recommended that ya get new piping to the inlet to match whatever piping your b-pipe has.

This is not to say that there are no gains from adding a free flowing, straight through muffler, its just costly and the hp/dollar ratio just isn't worth it to some.

 

simply put...... that was beautiful!!!

 

from what i've gathered a new rear section would probably give me 1 fwhp and sound...possibly some tickets or incidents with the po-lice

the stock b pipe is sooooo poorly made my goodness. there's a NASTY crush after the resonator to allow some bar to clear, man can you say restriction??

 

that's one big reason why I sold my GReddy for a Frankencar: to escape the attention of the cops around here...

 

I can see nobody around here can stay on topic

 

sorry josh i'll stay out of the thread now lol

-joe

 

Techinically, we weren't "arguing"...

 

But mearly a discussion ... I think your question got answered though..

 

$175 must have been a while ago. $139 for the stuff, but $99 for shipping.