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Old May 17, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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new springs :)

i m trading my stechs for some progress springs with a felloe org member. i can already tell my struts are worn to hell. since the progress springs arent a very large drop, do you think the monroe struts would be an ok replacement. im not into racing and all that so i really dont need performance adjusting struts. we put monroes on my friends accord and it rode very smooth. although, he has stock springs. any input would be great guys. oh i almost forgot the monroes are like 42.99 a piece or somthing close to that. if there is something better that you know of in that pricerange please let me know. you guys are awesome. peace
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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just an FYI the progress are much bouncier than Stechs....
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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Is it true they're more "bouncy" even with illuminas?
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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I've always thought that anything slightly stiffer than OEM struts would be fine, and that's still true to a certain degree, but Progress springs are a little bit bouncy if the strut isn't stiff enough. Its not a bad ride by any means, they're just bouncy at low speeds over smaller to mid sized bumps. Overall ride quality for my Progress/HPs set-up has been good, especially at higher cruising speeds. My advice would be to look for KYB GR-2s or Tokico HPs either on eBay or in our 5th Gen Classifieds. You can get all 4 of em used for between $150-$200 usually, or new for around $270 on eBay. I would sell you my HPs but Soonerfan already has dibs on em. All the best.

Btw, I don't know anything about the dampering of Monroe struts, but the GR-2s and HPs are 10% stiffer than stock, so you should find out more about the Monroes if ya really wanna get em. Getting struts the same stiffness as your OEM struts probably isn't a good idea in the long run, esp for a lower drop like Progress.
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K3MAX2NV
just an FYI the progress are much bouncier than Stechs....
They are bouncy because the struts don't have enough dampering... I have Progress/HP and have that issue. Housecor said that he had Progress/Illumina and they were fine. Besides, aren't all springs bouncy?

Btw, you're still right though... S-techs are less bouncy, but much stiffer and harsher.
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Is it true they're more "bouncy" even with illuminas?
I'll give ya a first hand account later today/tomorrow.
Old May 18, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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I suggest these two....KYB GR-2s or Tokico HPs, for a money saving strut also.
Old May 18, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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Old May 18, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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bouncy as in what. like i cut my stock springs, or like crappy coil overs?? please let me know my car sucks donkey **** right now. thanks guys for all the replies.
Old May 19, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rcruise02
bouncy as in what. like i cut my stock springs, or like crappy coil overs?? please let me know my car sucks donkey **** right now. thanks guys for all the replies.
Definitely not as bad as those set-ups.

It depends on your struts too.... the Progress/HP set-up was a very comfortable ride and handling was improved immensely over stock, but it was a tad bouncy (but then, aren't all springs supposed to be bouncy? ) at lower speeds over mid to large bumps and kinda soft taking hard corners. You could really feel the car bounce when going over speed bumps, even going really slowly. Now with Progress/Illumina, its a firmer feel, I believe its because I have them set stiffer than the HP eqiuvalent setting (mine are set 4F 3R), so the dampening matches the spring better. The Progress/HP set-up is fine for daily driving, the Illuminas just added much more sportiness to it, while retaining good ride quality. Both set-ups are good, IMO, in terms of overall ride quality and handling, it really just depends on what you want in terms of performance.
Old May 19, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Btw, you're still right though... S-techs are less bouncy, but much stiffer and harsher.
What?? Sorry but, this statement is very oxymoronic....you are completely contradicting yourself here.

Spring rate 101: all else being equal, stiffer and harsher springs = bouncier ride unless you control the rebound rate with a strut with a greater damping rate such as an Illumina, Tokico blue, GR2, etc.

So there no way an S-tech can be 'less bouncy' but 'stiffer and harsher' at the same time, sorry. It either is 'stiffer and harsher' or 'less bouncy' (which implies a softer, less radical spring rate) but it cant be both
Old May 19, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Galo
What?? Sorry but, this statement is very oxymoronic....you are completely contradicting yourself here.

Spring rate 101: all else being equal, stiffer and harsher springs = bouncier ride unless you control the rebound rate with a strut with a greater damping rate such as an Illumina, Tokico blue, GR2, etc.

So there no way an S-tech can be 'less bouncy' but 'stiffer and harsher' at the same time, sorry. It either is 'stiffer and harsher' or 'less bouncy' (which implies a softer, less radical spring rate) but it cant be both
Sorry for being vague, I meant that Progress springs seem like a softer ride but bouncier over bumps, but S-techs seem like a harsher ride, but with less travel (bounciness) over bumps.... does that make sense? Bearing in mind that this is possibly due to your point, that the struts may have made a difference.
Old May 19, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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My progress springs are paired up with illuminas, and I have them set to a stiffer setting the way I prefer it. It's not bouncy to the point of cutting springs on a honda civic or anything. The small amount of bounce allows me to not feel like it's too stiff to the point that I have to brace myself. Like said before most of it depends on the struts you get. I let my g/f drive my car while I was following, and it actually looks very sporty rolling, and looks like a car that can definately handle.
Old May 19, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Sorry for being vague, I meant that Progress springs seem like a softer ride but bouncier over bumps, but S-techs seem like a harsher ride, but with less travel (bounciness) over bumps.... does that make sense? Bearing in mind that this is possibly due to your point, that the struts may have made a difference.
If you replaced the the struts at the same time u switched springs, absolutely!
Old May 19, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Galo
If you replaced the the struts at the same time u switched springs, absolutely!
Thanks for clearing that up...
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