grateful1

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I am looking at replacing my rotors and pads because I am getting sick of not being able to stop effectively. The 2 that I have been looking at are Brembo blanks and Frozen blanks. Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with either or both? I want a rotor that is going to last me a while without warping.

Also, what pads are you running with the Frozen's? Can anyone recommend anything else with the Brembo's other than Axxis Masters?

Any other recommendations for rotors and pads are welcome.

ColdSHO

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im runnin frozen rotors on my car with axxis pads. granted i have the 12.6s but the braking is amazing, i usually downshift and coast, so i dont do much hard braking, but somehow i warp rotors easy, but nothing with these so far, i think i finally found a good brake combo.

note, the axxis pads and dont seem to make much dust, my rears make more than my fornts do, i think its time for axxis rear pads.

Maxima2000SE

I have the Brembo blanks and Axxis ceramic pads...The pads are okay but give out brake dust like no other. For the rotors...they have been on for 10k+ and have not warped.

speye022

Brembo/ Axxis combo. Same dust issue. I guess I was suppose to break those rotors in. But, I can tell you that the braking performance is the best I've had so far.

ColdSHO

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im using the same pads as u guys and i have very little dust, maybe its cause im like super nice to them and dont brake hard. odd

boondoxmax

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For some reason i have never had warping problems on my first max. oem rotors and ceramic pads and never a problem. I have only had the new car a few days but the thing brakes smooth as hell(crossing fingers). For some reason i think its the hard nissan pads that cause the rotors to warp.....

Shogunsc4

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my stock front rotors are warped and my rears are totally done and making noises...just ordered axxis/brembo...just hoping it would last longer than stock.

grateful1

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Shogunsc4 & boondoxmax,

just out of curiosity, how many miles do you guys have on your cars? Do you guys drive an auto or manual?

Shogunsc4

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I have exactly 40k miles today...but replaced pads on the rear once at 15k. I have an auto.

grateful1

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So I guess the question is, are Frozen blanks better then Brembo blanks? Is the higher cost of Frozens in comparison to Brembos worth it? I have heard of several instances in which the Brembos warp however I have never heard of the Frozens having this issue.

Also, what is the deal with brake dust and how does it really effect the performance of braking?

Edward Lee

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Frozen rotors are the only way to go. I had the brembo's and they warped within a few months. Going on two years with the frozen rotors and no sign of warpage.

ColdSHO

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spend a little extra and do it right, frozen seems to make an amazing product.

Y2K2Driver

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I put the Powerslot Slotted Frozen Rotors on about 1k miles ago with Hawk HPS pads. So far so good. The initial bite when cold is a little weak, but after that they do a better job than stock. My only compliant is that they squeak a bit.

grateful1

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ColdSHO and E. Lee, have you experienced any squeeking or problems with your Frozens?

Y2K2Driver

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IIRC, squeaking is more a function of the pad than anything else.

cabernet

Brembo blanks and OEM pads here. Good news is no warping after 25K miles. Bad news is that stopping power is poor.

Edward Lee

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No squeaking here whatsoever. Cryo treated rotors kick ***! If you call diversified cryogenics they will educate you on what pads are the best and why. Ask them why they don't like ceramic pads and then go for the Performance Friction in either the carbon metallic or the Z-rated. The carbon are probably better for the highway as the z-rated need to be warm (1 good stop) to work at an optimum level. When you drive on the highway they tend to cool off and can be an issue if you have to make a panic stop with the cool pads. It's not tht big of a deal, but why take the chance when you can have immediate stopping power anytime.

ColdSHO

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besides the noise of the extra mass of the rotors slowing mine are pretty much silent, part of the reason i went with blanks. that and ive read that theyre stronger without any cuts or holes in them, ive driven and had my brakes fail on me b4(another car, long time ago) i never wanna have that happena gain, so i play it safe.

grateful1

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Do you think your lack of stopping power has more to do with your OEM pads or are you finding fault in the Brembos?

Shogunsc4

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i bet it is the pads...our braking power is a lot better than most cars out there stock. Of course you can throw in the BBK and get way better stopping power but I think our stockers are good enough for normal everyday driving.

grateful1

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I don't know what it is on my max but the brakes suck even on a normal everyday situation. I'm pretty sure it is my rotors though.

dkotanto

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Brembo blanks and Akebono ceramics. Also flush brake fluid with Valvoline synthetic brake fluid. Awesome combo. The car stops on a dime. No dust, no warpage, 6000+ miles.

woosh

Cold SHO and Edward Lee,

What color key was your frozen rotors? (orange, yellow, ... )

nicks79

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What Brand of frozen rotors are you all talking about? Powerslots? or are there other ones?

Thanks

woosh

I think they are powerslot blanks (part number 507 for fronts) but cryogenically treated by Frozen Rotors

dave

i looked at frozen's website...
"Deep cryogenic processing permanently refines the grain structure of metals at the atomic level."


i can see heat-tempering doing something,i.e., "then heat-tempered as the final step", but freezing???

bvenvert

I bought the brembo D/S rotors and the Axxis Ultimate Ceramic pads for all four corners of my Max. They are so sweet, especially in place of the OEM blanks. I had warped my OEM rotors twice since I bought my car with 30K on it and I really don't drive my car that hard.

A little over a year ago I went to the Brembo/Axxis combo and have not looked back. They stop the car so much more efficeintly than the old OEM setup with about 1/3 the brake dust. In addition, the dust they create, is much less noticeable than the old pads.

I don't know the exact mileage I have on the current setup, but I would suspect I have over 30K since I put them on the car. No warpage and my pedal fade is almost non existent! I have been very happy with my setup. I just bought an 03 Maxima to replace my 2000 model and when the brakes go out on my 03, I will be ordering the Brembo/Axxis combo for it.

Edward Lee

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I don't know anything about a color code. I purchased mine from Diversified Cryogenics and coupled them with some Performance Friction Pads for unbelievable stopping power and no warpage, even after almost two years.

Forget about ceramic pads because they suck. Forget about Brembo blanks unless you want to be turning them every two months.

Edward Lee

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I don't know anything about a color code. I purchased mine from Diversified Cryogenics and coupled them with some Performance Friction Pads for unbelievable stopping power and no warpage, even after almost two years.

Forget about ceramic pads because they suck. Forget about Brembo blanks unless you want to be turning them every two months

woosh

When I got mine they had a paint mark on one side and a sheet in the box telling what color key / temp the paint matched. Mine were sprayed with a orange. I forget which temp that is on the table.

grateful1

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Well, it's about 50/50... half of the comments are for Brembos and the other half are for Frozens. Anybody else have any compelling evidence or statements to make before I decide on which rotors to get?

Edward Lee

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It's brainless. Get the Frozen Rotors and call it a day! The brembo's suck!

SR20DEN

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That pretty much sums it up for me too, but I have about 7k miles on mine. The noise can be fixed by coating both sides of the pads with applicable compounds.


I also flushed my brakes with ATE Super Blue.

Shogunsc4

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just received my brembo blanks and axxis ultimates in the mail...will be installed in a few days...i personally never heard anything bad about the brembos except edward lee's comment on them. I'll see how it goes.

geenowalker

Brembo rotors, midas ceramics....I am not pushing my max anymore..driving it with my little guy in the back. Love the brembos and midas pads...bought the brembos for $44 each.

Edward Lee

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Sorry to flame on about how bad the Brembo's were for me. I just want to save other orgers the trouble that I went through with the Brembo's. My pad material is almost gone and the frozen rotors are still smooth as hell. I plan on doing the same setup and instead of turning the rotors, I'm going to get 4 new frozen rotors, cad plated, non slotted and non drilled. I want them to be as quiet as possible as my new Pilot PS2's totally transformed my ride into a very quiet and smooth riding vehicle and I'm on 18's.

I am willing to sell my frozen rotors, cad plated, sloted and never turned. I will turn them before I sell them and they will be ready for installation to anyone who wants a set or the front. I am also selling my Stillen cad plated and drilled rotors for the rear, also never turned and smooth as silk.